(CW: transphobia) Blahaj user accuses Hexbear of pretending to be trans for the purpose of ragebaiting
https://programming.dev/comment/6314140
Also accuses us of getting "offended at anyone, for any reason." Literally indistinguishable from a chud.
wow it's so cool that blahaj harbors people like that. Love getting my fucking gender erased by people wrapped in trans flags
this definitely isn't more or less the exact argument transphobes make to try and take our rights away but with an extra level of online poisioning
Me, a progressive anti-tankie liberal, being baited by “minorities” during an argument
a trans person ragebaited me into admitting i'm a transphobic tit, whaaaa 🦈😭🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️
The intense irony of a user joining a specifically trans safe space instance and then shouting about how trans people they don't like are just pretending is just upsetting.
I love my trans comrades
Why's everybody speaking Mexican at this Mexican Taqaria where the menu is written in Spanish?
They are pretendiong! We in Texas are the real Mexicans.
The fact this person uses the word "whiteknight" tells me they're a right wing shit bag agitator. They're the only fuckos that use the word, typically alongside outdated bangers like "snowflake" and "sjw" but this one is trying (and failing) to mask.
Will blahaj recognise that and do anything about it? Fuck no they won't, because anticommunism is more important to them than trans people even if it means fascising online spaces.
"Simp" usurped whiteknight years ago as the right wing word for respecting people, this one must be so noxious that they had no friends to update them on it
It's still used among g*mers, especially in places like steam communities.
anticommunism is more important to them than trans people even if it means fascising online spaces.
Yep, and this is the perfect summary of why we defedded from them.
Using a made up percentage chance of something as evidence is also classic right wing rhetoric.
it's not only a made-up percentage, it's also a transphobic dogwhistle that refers to the supposed inherent suicidality of trans people.
Reminds me of all the gamergate libs as they were being scratched
We're going to have to resort to tailism to get anywhere, aren't we?
We're going to have to resort to tailism to get anywhere, aren't we?
nah, that's a losing game
mods, MODS! they made me say the slurs by pretending to be a minority!
"Your honor it was Al Jolson that made me start dropping N-bombs."
The funniest part is is when they make shit up about right wingers. Right wing politicians are usually so cartoonishly evil that there is no need to make up stuff about them, yet the radlibs do it anyways. See Russiagate as an example.
The problem is that radlibs are constantly aware that their politicians are doing the same thing, but less loudly. So they need to make up new evil things.
i literally joined hexbear because i heard how trans supportive this place is
cool! love to be accused of pretending to be trans, something that definitely isn't mostly leveraged against trans women to accuse them of just being men trying to enter women's spaces!
Claims hexbears get offended by anyone for any reason. Is also deeply offended by hexbear just existing even though they defederated months ago and don't see any hexbear posts anymore.
Yep. Seems like a reasonable person that is saying reasonable things.
I got estradiol as a bit, so I could troll the liberals
Transitioning to own the libs.
I'm still waiting for a conservative to go on HRT so they can compete in women's sports.
that's literally a story i read. she ends up realizing that was dumb and she was just looking for an excuse to transition well after becoming woke
Ooh, that’s a good idea :3
They do this there a lot, and it just makes me sad for them because it indicates a complete detachment from real life trans community.
Like, if you're moving within the community irl, you're gonna meet a lot trans people who will fall into all kinds of buckets. Radlibs with extra padding on all the edges, toocute girl who's going to tell you about juche, prepper libertarian-coded people, self-loathers who closed their tttt tab before leaving the house, crusty polycule commune folks, tonnnns of people 196ers would call "tankies", and so on and so on.
I don't like the blahaj vibe, but I understand who in my community hangs out there. Any poster who can't even conceptualize who is posting here on hexbear, and have to propose that it's all fake, just doesn't have contact with any real life community. I think you'd have to be cut off entirely, except for some insular online spaces. Which it's more sad than anything else.
toocute girl who's going to tell you about juche
Where do I find this?
It's true. I'm aware of lots of trans people I dislike, who have bad opinions. Still trans though.
Blair White is a great example lol. Sometimes the conditioning of society sticks on, unfortunately.
wtf I'm cis now
i sometimes have nightmares like this
I would continue your joke and say come join us, but you really do not want to.
The amount of bullshit involved in cisnormative straight relationships is way too damn high. I don't understand how anyone can do this. I can't as a cisgender bisexual guy.
A cis, on my Hexbear?! Wow, this site is sure starting to feel progressive and inclusive! Welcome Conrad!
ive already come from the other side and the grass is way greener over here hey
So before I came out, I was in a straight-appearing relationship, with dynamics that were unconsciously just queer enough that we often lightly made fun of our more traditional straight couple friends, like literally "are the straights ok?" type stuff (we still thought we were straight though, somehow).
EVEN SO it was so much more stifling than any of my relationships after I came out. The expectations are constant and unrelenting until you get to a place where there's no possible way anyone can read you as cishet, and even then cishets are so oblivious you have to outright tell them
This shit annoys me more than the usual transphobia from chuds. I'd like one of those so called "ally" lib fuckheads to try and say that to my face. If they want to erase my gender I'll erase their face.
they'll be too busy performing support to your face and talking shit about you behind your back. death to liberalism.
I guess the crying myself to sleep and the literal heartache I get isn't because of what I see in the mirror! And the upheaval of my well established life is for funzies. Brb, gotta go tell my therapist that she diagnosed me wrong too.
If this jackass ever reads this thread - log off and rethink your life.
We love you comrade
Th... Thanks.
I’m trans and here so their argument is invalid and I stopped reading
Wow blahaj is a pretty transphobic space if they tolerate that shit.
I like the_dunk_tank for posts like these, the unity in the comments is very wholesome and endearing.
We love our trans comrades, don't we folks
It's important to establish and defend a party line.
Whoa whoa whoa, hold up. They're willing to invalidate the fact that I'm trans simply because I'm from this site? People seriously need to grow the fuck up and touch grass. Jesus fucking christ, get a life, kid.
Didn't we defed from Blahaj specifically because they kept accusing us of faking being queer?
It was the open ableism from one of their mods iirc
As well as defense of chasers
Due to multiple factors, such as unaddressed ableist removals from the /c/196 moderators, defense of chasers, no-quarter rules regarding our users, leakage of good-faith DMs from our admin team, and a general lack of initiative to punish these behaviors, [...]
Quite literally one of the last posts on the old subreddit before
pulled the plug on us was a heartfelt thank you from a trans person for being a place that was open and welcoming to them.Just some food for thought.
I attribute a large part of finally getting my egg to fully crack to /r/cth. Fuck any liberal who tries to take that away from me.
❤️🐿️🏳️⚧️
I'm so happy for you, comrade. Glad to have you with us.
And I still think it's fucking funny people would play let alone defend the mid ass game that is Hogwart's Legacy. Like damn, not only are you a shitty transphobe, but you also have complete shit tastes in games lmao
I'm upset because I can't find the exact quote, but it was something along the lines of "Hogwarts legacy is a great game to someone who has never played another videogame much like the Harry Potter series are great books to someone who has never read another book."
Found the original quote:
"Hogwarts Legacy is a game for HP fans. That is, if you're Harry Potter books fan, probably it's because you've never read another book, so you'll like this game, if you've never played other games."
Also I've found deploying this is the most effective way to get Harry Potter fans to self-destruct wherever they are because it causes them to go into blind rage mode where they'll get themselves banned over silly civility rules in libbed-up spaces because treat quality critique is more reprehensible to them than actual leftist critique of their media.
Deploy the topological thought weapon; "Hey lib, this book you hang your identity on is derrivative of other, much better series and even on it's own merits distinctly mid with poor plotting, inconsistent and unimaginative world building, and shallow characters who lack agency and are pushed by circumstance rather than acting on their own agendas and convictions. In the end the status quo is maintained and the jock hero becomes one of the very cops who abused him".
The hill they picked to die on is like a 500' tall municipal trash heap outside Wisaw.
Hahaha blahaj sucks so hard.
I remember when we defederated them first because of the ableist apologia they did.
PS I love all our trans comrades
defederated after they did WHAT? i am pretty new here so i don't know what happened, can someone enlighten me, please?
multiple factors, such as unaddressed ableist removals from the /c/196 moderators, defense of chasers, no-quarter rules regarding our users, leakage of good-faith DMs from our admin team, and a general lack of initiative to punish these behaviors
Short version was some mod posted an ableist slur (-t*rd) and then after getting called out doubled down. There's more context and tensions were already strained but that was the big struggle session before the defed
transphobic by proxy
Transphobia is when you call out chasers for being chasers and weird objectifying weirdos.
Transphobia is having 3 trans comms and required pronouns so everyone knows how committed to the bit Hexbear is.
Popped into the blahaj thread about it and...
Ally moment.
It's the doubling down that's the worst part. The misgendering honestly wouldn't be that big of a deal if they would just apologize and fix their behavior after being corrected. We get it, mistakes happen. Like in the original case that triggered this conversation the user was using a client that doesn't show our pronouns, so they defaulted to "they" instead of the user's listed "she/her". A completely understandable error. But when they get politely corrected and their response is "ugh you Hexbears getting offended is not a good look" or "actshually 'bro' is gender neutral because I say so" then fuck you you're not an ally if you turn into a reactionary the moment you get scratched.
"my most feminine of ladies" is actually a gender neutral address, because you could technically say that to anyone, and language is not prescriptive ok, and and
You don't even have to admit what you did was wrong just say sorry, if this hurts you I'll stop doing it. Even if you think bro is gender neutral to you, you don't need to double down.
Hello opinions are a bit split whether someone minds being called bro or dude if used in the casual slang sense. You can give that as your reason but like just not do it afterwards to them, and maybe stick to only using it with people you know personally in the first place. A trans friend of mine decided a ways back that 'bro' is misgendering and 'bruh' is gender neutral, I'm in punk rock circles where 80s slang is still in circulation and 'dude' is so ubiquitous its list all meaning, but at the same time if someone doesn't like it, we don't call them that, it's just being a decent person.
i bro gender neautral what the fuck?
Heisenberg's gender
You should reply with "ok sis".
I'd have'ta make an account on blahaj first and honestly I regret even lurking on that hellsite.
"OK cis"
They fucking misgendered kristina??
What the fuck?
these liberals should die screaming and im not being hyperbolic
We love our trans comrades
nominative determinism
Do they have a slur filter that converts hexbear to dramabear?
Same shit happened with r/CTH. Everyone accused them if being transphobic when it was one of the safer non-trans-centric places on the net at the time
For real. Its reputation as transphobic kept me away for a long time, but then when I actually went there is was by far the most trans positive online space I'd ever been in
We must roll the tanks into Blahaj and liberate them with TC69 Thought.
Nothing says "I'm an ally of a thing" than going out of your way to try to erase the thing. Nice job blahaj real good trans friendly space you got going on there.
honestly wish that i could say something funny about this but it just makes me fucking sick. these people are literally off in their own worlds after defederation making shit up about me and about my trans comrades and absolutely invalidating our experiences. and like, I know I'm not adding anything here, we all know what this is and me saying it directly isn't new information but i really, genuinely find it distressing.
how fucking dare they, honestly.
i have never felt more welcomed and at home on any other place on the internet, or hell in real life even. i've never felt more seen than i do here. and if it's not someone else's cup of tea then fine, I can respect that, but don't go posting to the world that i and we aren't "really trans". i would never do that to them.
sorry for an uninteresting comment. this one just really got to me...
Remember "people of NATO"? lmao
programming.dev admin's solution is to have admins use anonymouse alt accounts to indulge in male-cishet-crackerism? Or am I misunderstanding what they wrote?
yeah that's their plan
Im glad we defederated from blahaj, they are one of the worst lemmy instances for sure, in their post about defederating programingdev most users were ok with transphobia if they keep being federated with other instances
Jfc it's just a whole thread of "pleeeease don't defederate over transphobia!!"
That site is just bursting at the seems with
The admin is pretty good and is pretty dedicated to actually making a trans safe space but a lot of the new users that came in with 196 are complete pick mes who'll side with transphobes as long as they're anti tankie. It's more of a very loud minority thing than anything.
Blahaj is Swedish for “chaser”
This dipshit is a trans "ally" in more of the Molotov-Ribbentrop sense.
i dont remember agreeing to a non-aggression pact with those losers
Accusing other trans people of faking being trans is pretty transphobic.
They defederated months ago
We defedded them aktually
and they're still mad about it lmao
Liberals are such close minded cowards that they can't imagine people to the left of them genuinely believe what they believe.
Liberals believe all political distinction comes from misunderstandings or ignorance. Since we don't seem to be ignorant, we must therefore be lying.
Yep notice this so much.
This seems to be a thing across the west. Media and Politicals will denounce
Muslims as being religious fanatics but then turn right around and scoff at the idea that they would actually adhere to the ideals and laws of their religion. And many other examples. I think most libs can't actually imagine having convictions about something that are strong enough that you would actually break social norms, let alone laws, to fight for them.shocker of shockers they don't show any of the effortposting we did and just focus on the dunks
Transphobes having a normal one
So I make sure i'm following, Hexbear users confronted a programming.dev admin on Lemmy.ml about Hogwarts game, and Blahaj decided to defed even though they hate HB and (some of their users) think trans HB users are faking being trans?
yeah, their users wanted to remain federated because the transphobia was well akshully hexbear's fault and it wasn't actually transphobia, and neither is what's in the OP.
it was specifically a group of trans hexbear users. i think all of us were trans, and if not all certainly most
I recognized most of you, the fucking audacity of some people is beyond me.
You all seem pretty tough but I'm sorry you have to deal with this shit on the regular
will do anything to get offended at anyone, for any reason.
Giant red flag that says "I AM A BIGOTED ASSHOLE AND I SAID SOMETHING WEIRD AND PEOPLE ARE MAD
"Transphobia is when you say a shitty game with terrible politics is bad
Programmers get the pit (not me though, I'm cool)
Edit: Cis straight white programmers get the pit
Or me. Mainly because I basically do no work and so barely qualify.
Y'all hiring?
nah, throw me into the pit too. it's cool.
Blahaj: “What can we do to get you to go away?”
Hexbear: "Stop posting about our instance."
Blahaj: "The lesson is to stop posting about you?"
Hexbear: "But you can't. 'Cause people want the content."
Implied there are good parts in 4chan and Twitter, opinion rejected.
i mean there are worse parts than others
Ldditors continue to be fucking losers who exhibit the worst parts of Rdditors.
Stay losing, shark instance.
To think I was considering making a post questioning if we should also dump programming.dev in solidarity only for this shit to happen.
We should still do it tbh.
yeah we should dump them because the admin was being transphobic. we might have already done it tbh
Fuck blahaj. Nothing else to say.
This is genuinely very upsetting to read. I've had more issues with the lemmygrad folks (who I am a part of) and it's only on the minutia of leftist infighting, not policy or ideology, and especially not on gender issues. Hexbears have been amazing, so I really wonder if this person is characterizing arguments that they disagree with as facile. I was lucky to have people show me where my reactionary tendencies were when I transitioned, but this is something else entirely.
Sorry for the rant. This frustrated me greatly, especially since like 90% of the hexbears I see are pronouned up trans people who kick ass.
Pronouns are mandatory. If I see none/use name default pronouns with a username I don't recognize, if there's a doubt they ain't getting the benefit. Like David Lynch said "Set your pronouns or die!"
The audacity for them to try this when we require pronouns and display them prominently but sure, we must be really committed to the bit. So much that we have several communities and do reading groups as well.
Maybe they should join us in reading through Trans Liberation, they might actually learn a thing or two.
I'm so glad I ditched that instance for here. I might lurk a lot but I know this place has got my back. I love my comrades!
Can we have an emoji of Marge Simpson saying "It's true but he shouldn't say it"?
looks like they got purged entirely
I know it's incredibly unlikely but maybe this will make the Blahaj admins take a moment to think about why they keep attracting these shitheads to begin with.
How do all these transphobes and fascists keep getting into my anti communism??
Internet liberals using materialist analysis to understand why things happen? That's a good joke.
Just like my parents! lol
Oh yeah I saw that shit earlier. Absolutely unhinged.
Pretending to be trans?
Fuck off.
Oh shit we're supposed to be pretending?
Antisocial transphobic users?
We may be antisocial, but that's only because everyone except for us is a piece of shit neo-nazi. And transphobic? This is the only online community where even being okay with trans people ISN'T a crime punishable by death.
sad genuinely confused people end up in these echochambers and only see these losers as "in the know"
With a bit of luck some desilusioned trans and genuine ally have started lurking in hexbear after seeing our comrades' condeming of these clowns.
Liberals becoming chuds when it suits them, tale as old as time
and yes i transgendered my gay in order to own the libs lol i am GenXi
They are going to the right! Even the lib chaser instance is to fucking radical for them!
The comments before those on this thread are somehow even worse:
Actual liberalism with Chud characteristics.The entire thread is like 50% chuds adjacent comments. Here are a few highlight so you don't have to see that dumpsterfire for yourselves:
A cisset telling trans peoples to stop being triggered and someone denying antisemitism in HP. Lol!"I'm not owned! I don't respond because they are troll, not because I don't have a responce! Look at them! They are all bayting and agressive and mean and they scare me waaaa!"
Bug up to the trans comrades in the replies btw
"Continuing to use they/them when you know the person's pronouns isn't transphobic guys! They don't have pronouns in this other language, which is totaly relevent to this conversation!"
Probably longer than blahaj instance even existed lmao
We are 2.5 years older than 95% of all the Reddit clone instances, yet they have the audacity to moan about us “ruining their communities” or whatever.
Like, you’re the one that barged in like you owned the place and took a hot steaming shit in the living room
mega transphobia is putting it lightly. this is erasure. that's stooping to such lows that i would never dream of - fuck that instance and all it stands for but i would NEVER do the same to them.
disgusting.