Discussing jury nullification is against the ToS of lemmy.world and will get you banned, according to worldnews mod

In practice, sort of. It's a symptom or side effect of two other really good ideas:

• A jury cannot be in any way punished for any verdict they reach.
• One cannot be tried for the same offense twice if it is acquitted. Technical term for this is "double jeopardy." A guilty verdict can be appealed but a not guilty verdict is absolutely final.

The shapes of these two principles are such that they cannot interlock in any way that does not leave room for jury nullification.

Wrong. They try to filter out people who know about jury nullification, but the act itself is not illegal, as you do not have to have the knowledge to accidentally do it anyway.

You do not have to lie to the judge. There is no lying to the judge. If the jury decides to ignore evidence and nullify, the judge knows exactly why, and there's nothing they can do about it.

I was a juror in two different trials and don't recall ever being asked about my beliefs on jury nullification. It's been many years though.

Edit: it seems like I was wrong. Supposedly, jury nullification is not legal in my US state.

Edit 2: perhaps it's still not completely settled in my state yet?

Why are people downvoting this? Jury nullification itself isn't illegal, but committing perjury definitely is, which is what Maalus is pointing out

... and in jail for contempt of court.

If all one had to do was utter 'JN' to get out of JD for free nobody even slightly inconvenienced would ever serve.

In reality, they dance around the fact. Ask you questions designed to get you to admit you have no 'valid' reason to nullify if you did, at which point you are either guilty of lying under oath or contempt of court.

You have to be firm in your convictions and hold your ground with a valid justification if you are going to try using nullification awareness to weasel out of jury duty because the judge will press, and press until they either think you're a true believer of a valid reason, or are just trying to shirk your duty.

I agree, but that wasn't quite the point I was trying to make.

The moderator was on a moral superiority high-horse by suggesting that "only God may judge" a guy who served as the judge for other's lives through complacent inaction and encouraging policies that put personal gain over humanity.

The only way that argument wouldn't have been hypocritical is if he agreed that God was a cruel bastard, and I don't think that was the case.

Omnipotent, omnipresent, and benevolent, yes.

I blocked that bot ages ago, is it still doing its annoying as all fuck thing or did they give up on it?

The lemmy.world terms of service are not exactly a work of clear legal craftmanship. I don't always think it's a bad thing to change the TOS to match this situation that just came up, so that we'll have a consistent policy written down that everyone's had time to look over. But it's clearly been thrown together by a bunch of amateurs who are, for some reason, cosplaying as a mini-Facebook with all the mode of speaking and fake professionalism that entails.

Read our Terms of Service carefully before using this website (“the website"). These Terms of Service ("the Terms of Service" or “the document”) govern your access to and use of the website. The website is available for your use only on the condition that you agree to the Terms of Service set forth above and below. If you do not agree with all of the Terms of Service, then do not access or use Lemmy.World. By accessing or using the website, you and the entity you are authorized to represent (“user” "you" or "your") signify your agreement to be bound by the Terms of Service.

That part sounds very lawyerly. Then the rest of the document is clearly a wiki that's been edited by a variety of volunteer admins as time goes on as different situations come up, with random pieces of general internet advice intermixed with what the rules of the site are, not clearly separated into which one is which.

Before using the website, remember you will be interacting with actual, real people and communities. Lemmy.World is not a place for you to attack other people or groups of people. Just because you disagree with someone doesn't give you the right to harass them. Discuss ideas and be critical of principles. Show the respect you desire to receive.

Everyone has a right to browse and interact with Lemmy.World and other federated instances free of harassment and/or threats of violence. Please try and be kind to your fellow human, or at least civil. Trolling users is only funny if both parties find it funny. Trolling mods and/or site admins is ill-advised.

Do not engage in content manipulation such as posting spam content, vote manipulation through using several user accounts or consistently down-voting a user. Vote for the content, not for the person.

Those are all good advice. Will I get banned for violating them? If I consistently downvote a user I don't like, or if I don't show the respect I desire to receive? Or if I'm trolling, and someone doesn't find it funny?

Do I just need to intuit that if I use multiple accounts to make fake downvotes, I'll be banned, but if I just consistently downvote another user when I see them, I won't be? The whole reason for having a TOS is so that users, and admins, won't need to intuit things like that.

Then there's this. Wait for the end, there's a punchline:

6. Violent Content

No visual content depicting executions, murder, suicide, dismemberment, visible innards, excessive gore, or charred bodies. No content depicting, promoting or enabling animal abuse. No erotic or otherwise suggestive media or text content featuring depictions of rape, sexual assault, or non-consensual violence. All other violent content should be tagged NSFW.

6.1 War Footage

Any graphic war footage taken by either private individuals or media outlets is prohibited. Exceptions may be made for photos and videos of historical significance.

6.2 Violent Content (Exceptions)

Depictions, imagery or otherwise ancient artwork in any form, other publicly available media entertainment content depicting gore or sexual content may be excluded and allowed, as long as they are fair use, in the public domain, or tolerated by the copyright owner, and in compliance with our Content Policy, as well as all applicable laws and their local laws. For example, films depicting war or historical reenactments.

Well, that seems perfectly clear. Any graphic war footage is prohibited, except war footage. That's allowed.

First TOS is Star Trek. Second TOS is Terms Of Service.

Yes but they think that's a good thing

Just looked it over and immediately applied. Big fan of the vibe. Looking forward to adding my cultural and biological distinctness to your own.

How do you migrate? So sick of the libs of .world

Lemmy has an export / import function now

Don't you mean https://lemmy.sdf.org/ ?

Still managed by a single admin?

Hey I never met you irl. Maybe you could be a secret NSA agent. Who knows 🤷‍♂️

/jk 😅

Isn’t basically every Lemmy instance liberal though? At least I haven’t seen any conservative Lemmy instances yet.

Anything that is not illegal is legal.

*Not an admin, the user is a mod. Look at their account on their home instance and you'll see they aren't an admin.

Calling out bad behavior from mods is good but please don't spread misinformation, intentionally or not. As it hurts the credibility of the claims.

Same shit. Many .world mods have access to an automod to give them admin powers such as bans.

And thus Reddit has truly found its replacement.

Reading this from lemm.ee right now! I'm also a big fan of https://sh.itjust.works/.

https://lemm.ee is generalist, second biggest instance, cool admins, federated with almost everyone

try discussing that german regime is ran by nazi nepo babies and see how long you last on there...

You can block those on any instance.

Tbh Hexbear and Lemmygrad users aren't very toxic unless you go into their communities and post liberal cringe