What games are just objective masterpieces?
What games are just objective masterpieces?
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MEDIA APPRECIATION DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY, GOOD NIGHT!
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Just out of curiosity, listing the games mentioned here as of this writing by their date of release:
Release Date Game 1980 Pac-Man 1985 The Oregon Trail (assuming widely-played 1985 game) 1985 Tetris 1986 Kid Icarus 1988 Mega Man 2 1988 Super Mario Brothers 3 1988 The Guardian Legend 1989 Abadox: The Deadly Inner War 1989 Ironsword: Wizards & Warriors II 1989 Monster Party 1989 Populous 1989 Sweet Home 1990 Dr. Mario 1990 Final Fantasy III 1991 Battletoads (assuming original game) 1991 The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 1992 Ecco the Dolphin 1992 Sonic the Hedgehog 2 1992 Super Mario Kart 1993 Dinopark Tycoon 1993 Doom 1993 Gauntlet IV 1993 Lufia & the Fortress of Doom (assuming first game) 1993 Mega Man X 1994 Donkey Kong Country 1994 Earthworm Jim 1994 Sonic & Knuckles 1994 Sonic the Hedgehog 3 1994 Super Metroid 1994 The Lion King 1995 Chrono Trigger 1997 Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 1997 Diablo 1997 Final Fantasy VII 1997 Mega Man X4 1997 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 1997 Snowboard Kids 1998 Banjo-Kazooie 1998 Metal Gear Solid 1998 Sonic Adventure 1998 South Park 1998 StarCraft: Brood War 1999 Age of Empires II: The Age of Kings 1999 Heroes of Might and Magic III 1999 Planescape: Torment 1999 Quake III Arena 1999 RollerCoaster Tycoon 1999 Silent Hill 1999 Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike 1999 Sven Co-op 1999 Unreal Tournament 1999 Worms Armageddon 2000 Command & Conquer: Red Alert 2 2000 Diablo II 2000 Resident Evil CODE: Veronica 2000 SimCity 3000 Unlimited 2000 Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2 2001 Ace Combat 04: Shattered Skies 2001 Final Fantasy X 2001 Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty 2001 Shenmue II 2002 The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind 2003 Beyond Good & Evil 2003 Need for Speed: Underground 2003 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 2004 Ace Combat 5: The Unsung War 2004 Champions of Norrath 2004 Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas 2004 Gran Turismo 4 2004 Half Life 2 2004 Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 2004 The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap 2005 Champions: Return to Arms 2005 Psychonauts 2005 Shadow of the Colossus 2006 Ace Combat Zero: The Belkan War 2006 Ōkami 2007 BioShock 2007 Dark Souls 2007 Mass Effect 2007 Portal 2008 Clonk Rage 2008 Left 4 Dead 2008 Mirror's Edge 2008 Super Smash Bros. Brawl 2009 Dragon Age: Origins 2009 Forza Motorsport 3 2009 Killing Floor 2009 Left 4 Dead 2 2009 Plants vs. Zombies 2009 Steins;Gate 2010 Battlefield: Bad Company 2 2010 Limbo 2010 Nier 2010 Planet Minigolf 2011 Bastion 2011 Portal 2 2011 Terraria 2011 The Binding of Isaac 2012 Hotline Miami 2012 The House in Fata Morgana 2012 Tokyo Jungle 2014 Forza Horizon 2 2014 LISA: The Painful 2015 Bloodborne 2015 Ori and the Blind Forest 2015 The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt 2015 Undertale 2016 Doom (2016) 2016 Kirby: Planet Robobot 2016 Stardew Valley 2016 The Witness 2016 Titanfall 2 2016 Tyranny 2017 Little Nightmares 2017 Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (for Deluxe version) 2017 Nier: Automata 2017 Night in the Woods 2017 Super Mario Odyssey 2017 The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2018 Celeste 2018 Donut County 2018 Return of the Obra Dinn 2018 Rimworld 2018 Subnautica 2019 A Short Hike 2019 Disco Elysium 2019 Outer Wilds 2019 Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice 2019 Slay the Spire 2020 Cyberpunk 2077 2020 Factorio 2020 Hades 2021 Everhood: An Ineffable Tale of the Inexpressible Divine Moments of Truth 2021 Psychonauts 2 2022 Elden Ring 2022 Lil Gator Game 2023 Baldur's Gate 3 2023 Dave the Diver 2024 Balatro -
Has seriously no one mentioned The Last of Us? That’s crazy.
I think the second should be included.
As well as red dead redemption 2.
The storytelling is just top tier. Better than literally almost all media made today.
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Rdr2 was the only game that I was actually emotionally tied to the characters. It was truly a masterpiece.
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Last of Us 1 was really good. But the second one was so bad, it kind of ruined the first one for me as well. And I wouldn't call it masterpiece. Because for me a masterpiece shines in gameplay, narrative and atmosphere. The Last of Us' gameplay serves its purpose, but there's really nothing special here compared to e.g. Elden Ring, were story, atmosphere and gameplay are all pretty much perfect.
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Tokyo Jungle, YES!
A game so sadly lost to time. My partner's PS3 still has it installed, but no idea if the hard drive is still functional..
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The only game I'm missing here is master of magic. I was shocked noone else had mentioned sts and ff3(6).
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Missing Half-life (the first one). That game was the first one to feature scripted scenes during player interaction and it was mind-blowing. Plus, it had the most sophisticated story ever seen in an FPS before.
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The only game I kinda like on this list is Okami.
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1996: Duke Nukem 3D
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Factorio.
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I think Outer Wilds is the most unique and fantastic way to tell a story I've ever experienced. Truly open in a way I've not seen before or since.
With the banger of a soundtrack too, I just can't bring myself to rate other games higher than it; even if I enjoy them more, Outer Wilds is probably the best game I've ever played.
Slay the Spire probably makes the list as it's inspired countless tweaks on its incredibly balanced deck building experience
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Holy shit somehow no one has mentioned:
Nier Automata
It counts as a masterpiece because of how well it blends game design, gameplay and story. I have played very few games as thoughtful, or that weaved the gameplay together into the story it was telling in such a meaningful way. I never thought once in my life that I would think philosophically about bullet hell but somehow Nier Automata has something profound to say and even manages to say it using bullet hell as a gameplay mechanic.
On top of all this, it also has a lot to say about classical philosophers, their works, and honestly deeply subverts things they had to say. It asks tough questions about their thoughts and ideas, once again, through gameplay. Numerous characters are named for classical philosophers: Pascal, Jean-Paul, Simone, Engels, Immanuel... (Yoko Taro obviously has feelings about how Jean-Paul Sartre treated Simone de Beauvoir.)
Further, Yoko Taro is doing something that a lot of game developers fail to manage to do: He is embracing gaming as a storytelling medium and eschewing the traditional three-act arc from film. Because gaming is not film. As Marshall McLuhan posited, "the medium is the message" and unlike other developers Taro's writing is aimed at the medium he is working in instead of leaning on the ropes and tropes of other mediums. (Referring back to above, tying the gameplay into the story, focusing on the medium)
It's basically impossible to not break down into tears at the ending.
Don't write it off because of the scantily clad anime women. Stay for the depth of the human condition. It is truly a masterwork in multiple respects.
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I appreciate that you justified your submission, unlike many answers here.
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It's basically impossible to not break down into tears at the ending.
The god damn ending is a gameplay mechanic to tell a not yet finished story. Damn you Yoko Taro
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Nier Automata
I loved Nier Replicant, but didn't get into Automata, maybe I'll give it another shot. I do love that style of storytelling though.
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One of my favorite games of all time.
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I didn’t know Chris Plante is on Lemmy.
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I tried to play that game, expecting perhaps a DMC-like gameplay.
Instead I got a 2D plane scroller?
Then 2D sort of platformer?
Then some weird 3D action that I did not understand at all?
What the fuck is that game.
If I enjoyed combat more, I could give it another go. But it was just not for me.
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Man, I wish I understood a single bit of this evaluation of the game after finishing every chapter (sorry - "Ending"). The whole thing felt mostly like a waste of time.
That said, I'm a fan of Spec Ops: The Line, a game that has much the same level of division among its players. Interesting how philosophical games get that reaction.
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Portal/Portal 2
Deus Ex (the original)
Minecraft
Stardew Valley
Terraria
Mirror's Edge
Chrono Trigger
Cyberpunk 2077
Hades
Subnautica
A Short Hike
Donut County
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I'm shocked to see Donut County mentioned. But you're right, it's a perfect pleasant game similar to the perfection of the first Portal. In fact, it's my son's favorite video game, by far.
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The worst thing about it is that there isn't more.
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A short hike! Very pleased to see this one mentioned. What a game. The best kids game IMO
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I was expecting to disagree with the list at some point, but I'm finding it increasingly hard to find a reason to
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Katamari Damacy. It has a reputation for being silly Japanese nonsense, but the gameplay is brilliant, the graphics are timeless, the soundtrack is incredible, and it has some surprising thematic depth.
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Na naaaaa na na na na na, na na, na naaaa Katamari Damacyyyyyyy
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Outer wilds
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Shadow of the Colossus
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We actually got two masterpieces out of this one title. The remake was an absolute perfect remake.
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We'll see how much is recency bias and how well it will stand the test of time, but I really think Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 will be on this list going forward. It's definitely one of the best games I've ever played, and I've played a lot of games. It's not perfect, but it's close enough in all the parts that actually matter.
Otherwise there's your usual suspects:
- Disco Elysium
- Portal
- Half-Life 2
- Bioshock 1
- Final Fantasy VI
- Chrono Trigger
- Zelda: Ocarina of Time
- The Last of Us
- Baldur's Gate 2
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+1 for Beyond Good & Evil.
For those unfamiliar with this game, this was early 2000s Ubisoft when they used to be creative, celebrated, and original.
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Assuming that "masterpiece" refers to the quality and impact the games had in their time (not how well they aged) some of my picks would be:
- Baldur's Gate 2 + ToB
- Star Wars: KotoR
- Morrowind
- Read Dead Redemption 2
- The Witcher 3
- The Last of Us 1+2
- God of War
- Shadow of the Colossus
- The Legend of Zelda: BOTW
- Mass Effect 1+2
- Disco Elysium
- Half Life 2
- BioShock 1
- Diablo 2
- Fallout 2
I don't know how objective this list is. Some picks are definitely subjective and fit more in a "flawed masterpiece" category of games that had a large impact on how I perceived games but that may not be so widely acclaimed as some others on this list.
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You could probably add E33 to that, even if it is still too early to know how much impact it will have.
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Hard to argue with most of those. I'd put Ocarina of Time over BotW, but that's splitting hairs. Diablo 2 needs LoD included in my opinion.
God of War is an embarrassing blind spot in my gaming history. Is it actually that good?
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God of War has two big strengths that make it a great game in my opinion. The first is the story with its great characters, presentation, and voice acting. The second is the overall "feel" of the game, which can be a bit "game-y" at times but is really tight overall with only a handful of core mechanics that are exceptionally well implemented.
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Bastion, Hades, Disco Elysium, Planescape: Torment, and Tyranny (even if the last act is rushed in the last two) come to mind for me
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Bastion is amazing.
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- Chrono Trigger
- Disco Elysium
- Sekiro
- Zelda Ocarina of Time
- Bioshock
- Portal
- Half Life
- Nier Automata
- Tetris
Flawed Masterpieces
- Minecraft (surprising)
- Dragon age Origins
- Team Fortress 2
- Fallout New Vegas
- Dark Souls
- Every Baldur's Gate
Masterpiece in my heart: Terraria
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Good list. I desperately wanted to put Dark Souls on my list, as the first blind playthrough of it was a magical experience. But I don't think it's correct, no matter how much I love it. Flawed masterpiece is about right.
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Yeah the souls games are something I like in spite of all of the things wrong with them. There is just so much jank and bizarre design decisions.
I kinda hate that all of the games that have tried to copy them have done so to a point of not critically evaluating everything in them. And then they have all the same flaws, but none of the unique charm that makes me look past them for FROM’s games.
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I'm always curious why people add things like Ocarina of Time to lists like these. While the game was revolutionary at the time, I don't think it holds up particularly well nor succeeds where later zeldas fail.
To call it an objective masterpiece I feel like it has to be a game that someone picking up today would still enjoy and appreciate. Tetris and Portal for example hold up well even by today's standards.
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For me it's Journey. That game gave me an emotional experience I've never had in any other.
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Absolute embodiment of less is more. Controls are simple but intuitive, you can beat it in one session, there's no major payoff in the end. It's just a game about the journey and the friends made along the way.
I still remember having my mind blown that the other figure I met after the tutorial level was not just an NPC, when I noticed their movements were too deliberate and they were solving some puzzles for me.
I made it all the way to the end of the game with that person. Never knew who they even were until their name showed up at the very end. What a cathartic experience. I've also never been able to achieve anything similar since then.
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This game will forever live in my heart as an absolute masterpiece. I cry every time I play it because something about it just completely sucks me in.
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I added the buddy I ran through the game with and he's still on my friend list decade or so later, amazing experience
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There is no "objective" when talking about subjective terms.
My personal, SUBJECTIVE favorites are Mass Effect, Titanfall 2, Subnautica, Stardew Valley, Ori and the Blind Forest, Dave the Diver, Balatro, and Portal 1 and 2
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Factorio, Terraria, Half-Life 2, Portal 1/2, Limbo, Night in the Woods, Lil Gator Game
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Can you sell me on Night in the Woods and Lil Gator Game?
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I don't have it as a masterpiece myself, but Night in the Woods is an excellent exploration of the intersection of the anxieties of young and grown adults in a town setting. The script is tightly written.
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Journey
There is not a single word in the game, barely any control but the game take you through an emotional story.
It's multiplayer in a sense that you might meet another player, they can help you, you can help them or just continue on your path and despite not having any words it just fell like a genuine, pure connection with someone.
And the music is amazing.
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Journey is indeed absolutely fantastic. It finally got a PC port a while ago after languishing on the PS3 for quite some years, and its hardware requirements are probably low enough in the modern era that practically anybody should be able to experience it.
My only gripe is that online randos seem not to understand the meditation achievement, and get antsy when you try to entice them to sit there with you until the achievement pops. And since you can't type at them you can't communicate to them what's going on.
I got the trophy on PS3 back in the day but I haven't successfully wrangled anybody into helping me get the Steam achievement for that yet...
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Journey is an Art masterpiece, but one that you need to already appreciate Art to enjoy.
I got friends to try it, some of them enjoyed the experience, others found it boring as hell.
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I'm going to take this as "games that I never see anyone question their quality." (I don't even like all these games myself)
- Sonic 3 & Knuckles
- Kirby Planet Robobot
- Doom 2016
- Street Fighter III: Third Strike
- Pac-Man
- Balatro
- Steins;Gate
- The House in Fata Morgana
- Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
- Gran Turismo 4
- Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
- Mega Man X
- Mega Man X4
- Super Mario Bros. 3
- Hollow Knight
- Bloodborne
- Elden Ring
- Balder's Gate 3
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I’d take SMW over SMB3, but I can’t really fault anything else in this list! 😅
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I like SMW better myself (actually not a single franchise entry on that list is my favorite in the series) but it doesn't have the kind of unanimous praise SMB3 does.
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I am here to question Elden Ring's quality
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Steins;Gate my man cultured AF
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Since I haven't seen it on here: FTL.
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Super Metroid
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Zelda: A Link to the Past
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Age of Empires 2 /w The Conquers expansion pack.
Roller Coaster Tycoon 1. (2 was weaker without OpenRCT2, the real masterpiece, but idk if unfinished projects should count or not)
Quake 3 Arena, Unreal Tournament 1999 GOTY, Worms Armageddon, SimCity 3000 Unlimited, Forza Horizon 2 / Motorsport 3, Need for Speed Underground 1, Clonk! Rage, Metal Gear Solid 1/2/3, Ace Combat 4, Okami, Tokyo Jungle, Zelda BOTW, Mario Odyssey, Sven Co-Op, Killing Floor 1, Final Fantasy 7, LISA: The Painful, Everhood 1, Deus Ex 1, Left 4 Dead 1/2, Portal 2, Battlefield Bad Company 2... Champions of Norrath and Return to Arms, Diablo 1, Baldur's Gate 3 makes the list...NIER both games. Planet MiniGolf.
I could go on and on.
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Video:
DoomTetris
Chrono Trigger
Table top: Chess
Magic: the Gathering
Everdell
Azul
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Wizards got all up in Commander and killed my interest in it.
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UB are getting all up in my standard and pioneer formats and killing my interest for them/Magic as a whole outside of "limited" precons.
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There are a lot of answers, mine will be drowned but... there it is. In no particular order :
- Final Fantasy X
- Clair Obscur : Expedition 33
- Baldur's Gate 3
- Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2 (but you had to be there when it came out)
- Metal Gear Solid 3
- Shadow Hearts : Covenant
- Kya : Dark Lineage (the bugs were a feature)
- Horizon : Zero Dawn
- Megaman (any megaman will do)
- Crash Bandicoot Trilogy
- Spyro Trilogy
- Pokemon Yellow/Crystal/Emerald
- Pokemon Jade (yes that bootleg version)
- The Last of Us (pt. I & II)
- Astroneer
- GTA : Vice City
- Unreal Tournament 2004
- CS 1.6 played in the most dirty lan at your disposal
- Control
- Tetris
- Neverwinter Nights 2
- Dragon Age : Origins
- Quake III
- Bomberman
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Just started BG3. Fuckin mind-blowingly amazing.
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If you really liked BG3 you might also like Neverwinter Nights 2 and DA:O. I heard there was a remaster of Neverwinter Nights 2 in the works, maybe give it a try when it comes out.
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Celeste. Emotional narrative that seamlessly blends with the gameplay, which implementa never before seen accessibility configuration, enhanced by one of the best soundtracks ever. All while being cheap, indie, and one of the best speedrun games ever made
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Thomas Was Alone
I've never felt so much for quadrilateral shapes.
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That’s a great game indeed. The narration is on point.
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Psychonauts 1 and 2.
Some of the most imaginative big budget games in existence, from themes to art style to level design
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Slay the Spire
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It's a niche masterpiece, but my 600 hours of play time agrees I am in that niche
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My Picks...
Deus Ex (So many games try to be this and fail)
Cyberpunk (This one eventually measured up)
Alpha Centauri (Innovation mixed with familiarity and setting)
Fallout 2 (they're all good. Fallout 2 is special)
Kotor (Star Wars story telling in a beautiful way)
Baldur's Gate 2 and 3 (I'm stunned that 3 was a worthy successor)
Homeworld (One of the World's truly beautiful games)
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Phantom Liberty is where Cyberpunk becomes a masterpiece.
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I remember trying the demo to Homeworld when I was a kid, it came with one of those old school PC GAMER demo CDs. I think I was too young to understand how to play it effectively, but still loved it because I found the ambience of the experience so memorizing while hyper-cozy. Would you say it she's well as something worth going back and playing now, and what of the sequel(s)?
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I still repplay now and then, there's no game like it.
Sadly the sequals failed to capture the grace of the original, though I've not tried 3 yet.
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Clair Obscur has been the best game I've played in a long while, absolute masterpiece
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Red Alert 2
Heroes of Might and Magic 3
Super Mario Brothers 3
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Clair Obscur: Expedition 33
Disco Elysium
Alpha Centauri
Super Marios Bros 3
Bloodborne
Ori 1 & 2
Fallout 1 & 2
Planescape: Torment
The Outer Wilds-
Atari: Frogger NES: RBI Baseball / Tecmo Bowl.
Genesis: Phantasy Star IV
N64: Ocarina. PSX: FF IX.PSP: Lumines
Saturn: Panzer Dragoon Dreamcast: Rez and Skies of Arcadia
PS2 Vice City
XBOX: PD Orta 360: Child of Eden / Shadow Complex
PC agree with all yours. Would add Syndicate, Witcher 3, & red alert DS: Dawn of Sorrow Neo Geo: Last Blade 2
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Super Metroid
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Heres a list of some favorites:
Imperfect perfection: Morrowind
Perfect perfection: Starcraft Brood War
Objective perfection: Plants vs Zombies
Subjective perfection: Knights of the Old Republic
Perfect for its time: Gauntlet IV
Perfect timeless: Sonic 2
Perfect for its genre: LOZ Minish Cap
Perfect All-in-one: Shenmue II
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Minish Cap seems such an underrated gem
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Glad to see some love for Shenmue
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Hades. Transcends the rogue-like genre through incredible writing, art direction, and music. The gameplay is some of the most addictive I’ve ever played. I’m at over 200 hours logged and I still get lost in it.
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I'm taking this to mean games that stand out in or define their genre, are widely considered to be excellent, are timeless, and there's very little if any fat to trim.
- Super Mario Brothers - NES
- Super Mario 64
- Dark Souls - maybe Elden Ring takes over?
- Return of the Obra Dinn
- Half Life 2 - honorable mention: Left 4 Dead 2
- Diablo 2
- Doom
- Tetris
- Chrono Trigger
- Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
- Portal 2
- Little Nightmares - honorable mention: INSIDE
- GTA SA
- Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2
These aren't necessarily my favorite games, but games I think are well respected. I probably missed a bunch.
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Doom (93) I guess ?
Also HL and HL2
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RimWorld
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Truly, the replayability is staggering.
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- dark souls
- elden ring
- bloodborne
- sekiro
- outer wilds
- doom 2016
- binding of isaac
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Someone likes a challenge. :)
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Dragon Age: Origins and Bioshock
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Yes to both of these.
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Witcher 3 for me.
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I had to scroll so far to find anyone mentioning W3... Absolutely insane to me that this isn't much higher and more mentioned.
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I think masterpieces is one word.
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MAD MAX from 2015, while not tied directly to the new movies it scratches an itch I haven’t found in any other game. It’s dark and bleak and brutal. The combat on foot and behind the wheel are both incredible. Nothing quite like being in the middle of ripping a convoy 7 new assholes and being hit with a dust storm. It can be repetitive if you want to complete everything but BY THE GODS OF VALHALLA is it a fucking blast.
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It actually is directly tied to the movies. The character who first gives Furiosa a chassis to build from isn't quite as hunchbacked as in the game but he is credited as "Chumbucket!"
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No shit that’s awesome!
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Hades
Hollow Knight
Noita
Super Metroid
Prey (2017)
DOOM (2016)
Factorio
Stardew Valley
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Super Metroid is still the first that comes to mind. Amazing experience from start to finish.
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Supergiant games' holy trinity: Bastion, Transistor and Pyre.
Also, the only Borderland games 1 and 2; don't believe the lies there are no more true Borderlands games and no there most certainly is no movie.
There's also one other, but you'll need a crowbar or a gravity gun in hand for me to tell you about it.
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Feels odd to include Pyre over Hades.
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Bastion and Transistor, sure. Without a doubt, imoactful clever stories that were well delivered.
Pyre always felt like a buggy mess tho. I tried multiple times to get into it but it's just not on the level of the first two.
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You are wrong about borderlands as there is one more and it is pretty muc h perfect.
Tales from the Borderlands.
Shame they never made a sequel for it but the artistry, music and story are all so well crafted. Someone loved Borderlands making that.
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Undertale
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I don't see Goldeneye on your list.
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The Witness
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The Spyro the dragon trilogy for me is just an absolute masterpiece.
Final Fantasy VII, IX and X are three master pieces
Metroid prime and fusion
Fatal Frame trilogy on the PlayStation 2, Forbidden Siren, Silent Hill 2, Resident Evil 2 are amongst the best of the best
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I do think the Spyro games are probably the absolute best of the collect-a-thon genre. Joyful and fun and with fun puzzles. I am worried I am too biased to say it though since I have 120%/100%/117% beat the games multiple multiple multiple times.
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Hey, you and me man xD
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- Portal 1/2 of course.
- Grim Fandango. (Flawed yes, but absolutely a masterpiece)
- Psychonauts.
- Fallout New Vegas.
- System Shock (the original).
- The Longest Journey.
- Mass Effect. Maybe.
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Portal 1 & 2 were the first to my mind as well. I really like this list, actually.
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Glad to hear it.
I'm tempted to add Red Dead Redemption 2 to the list, but it's too new for me to decide yet.
I think it belongs. It was the greatest storytelling game I've played in a decade or more.
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Inside.
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Came here to say Limbo
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Left4Dead2 (also L4D1)
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EXCEPT....for when your computer teammate jumps in front of you while you're shooting and accosts you for it, then a second later they literally mow down a bunch of infected by shooting through you with no consequences.
So I have to knock it down to a 9.9/10
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Curious to hear what the criteria for "masterpiece" is, otherwise I think it is just peoples' subjective opinion of what makes a great game that they also think others might agree about being a great game. Genuinely curious, interested in discussion, not saying this to shut down any of the answers here.
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Historically a masterpiece has been a (or the) work that demonstrates an artist is capable of utilizing their medium to its fullest extent, i.e. it has been mastered. Per ye olde Wiki:
Historically, a "masterpiece" was a work of a very high standard produced by an apprentice to obtain full membership, as a "master", of a guild or academy in various areas of the visual arts and crafts.
In that light, I'd say the best qualified would be games that completely utilized the capabilities of the platform they were designed for or, perhaps of interest to more people, expanded what everyone thought could be done with those systems. Games which were furthermore well polished and complete, and did not have much room for improvement taking into account the constraints they had to work with at the time. (For instance: No duh we could make Mario 64 run at a higher framerate and have better textures to look nicer on hardware now. That doesn't mean it wasn't arguably a masterpiece of its time, on the system it was on.) This doesn't just have to be technical stuff -- It could be the way the game used storytelling, its gameplay mechanics, or anything else.
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Then Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom belong to that category - run smoothly as fuck on one of the lamest consoles there is, and are beautiful and complex.
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Spyro and Crash trilogies on the PSX, as well as the Quake 2 port, would definitely merit being called technical masterpieces
On the original Xbox, Phantom Dust would fit that bill, despite being a commercial failure at the time. The tldr is that you create a collection of spells (attacks, traps, dodges, curses, buffs) and try to grab them and the "mana" during the real time duels, in order to beat your opponents. Terrain is semi destructible and you have to take into consideration the trajectory of your spells - https://www.xbox.com/games/store/phantom-dust/9PCDNBHR11MR
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In my mind a masterpiece video game can't be copied. Or at least if someone tried it would just be called a cheap clone of the original.
Then again everything can be copied but the more difficult it is to copy the closer it is to a masterpiece IMO.
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Games I haven't seen mentioned yet:
- Fez - cute little 2D/3D platformer. It's amazing and very wholesome
- Stalker: Shadow of Chenrobyl - dunno what exactly is it, perhaps the settings and the grit, but it has a special place in my heart. It's about average FPS, but not too long and for me enjoyable
- F.E.A.R. - very good FPS, with amazingly scripted enemies, decent horror elements (not compulsory - you might miss some of them if you're not looking).
- Prince of Persia: Warrior Within - for me the best 3rd person action adventure ever. Best combat hands down (or head, or torso, you choose), streamlined blade dance at your fingertips. You play with your enemies, and you get many tools. There are some locked camera issues.
- Touhou: Lost branch of time - If you liked Slay the Spire, but wished for colorful mana, this is the game for you. It has anime artstyle, I usually focus on the cards, though it might turn some people off
- Dota 2 - Dunno if it was mentioned and I didn't see, but the mechanics are absolutely amazing, the things the game lets you get away with are incredible. 10/10, but other people might bring your experience down. Specially friends. Can play against custom (workshop) bots. Still takes too long to git gud. I studied the game for 10 years and still sucked.
- Divinity 2: Original Sin - also haven't seen a mention, everybody talks about BG3, I haven't yet played it, but D2:OS was also a masterpiece. Haven't played a lot of TRPGs, this was a blast, with easily set up multiplayer. Played through it twice completely, with many abandoned runs.
- CS 1.6 - remember that? I lost my childhood to that. They don't make counter strikes this good anymore.
- Synthetik - top-down rougelike shooter, with amazing weapons and physics and classes and enemies and mechanics and 2 person multiplayer
- Dwarf Fortress - the real objectively best game :D strategy simulation of the 3D box world, predecesor to both Minecraft and Terraria, but with A LOT more sand in your box. They are still extending it. And it's on Steam if you want a UI.
- Terraria (Calamity mod) - Terraria is obviously a great game, but what makes it 20/10 is the mods. Calamity specifically. Tripple the content, 5x the difficulty (20x if you try Infernum), amazing multiplayer experience. Don't install Infernum if you haven't beaten at least Revengeance on Calamity. Trust me, it will fuck you up.
- Yakuza 0 - how could I forget about this masterpiece? Story done absolutely right, that game had no business making me feel so strongly about it. Cool combat, very funny moments, but I cried during it. If you haven't tried it, check it out. You won't regret it.
- OpenTTD - Trains. Do you like to create and manage big rail systems? This is for you. And your friends. Only noobs use planes. Only psychos use boats. Nobody uses only vehicles.
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I love STALKER with all my heart, and if we're talking atmosphere and vibes and even world building it is up there. But it does not really belong in the objective masterpiece category. Flawed masterpiece, maybe.
Also I think Call of Pripyat is the better STALKER game, but it might be controversial.
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Yeah, but it still popped into my mind sooner than other games, dunno why,
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I love that you included 1.6. I spent my all teenage years staying up all night playing this. I was thinking single player epics but this is absolutely a masterpiece.
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Good taste
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There hasnt been yet a game that could replicate the experience I ld had when I played Planescape: Torment
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Was it the game, or was it the life you had while playing the game?
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The game itself, for me. I played it through a few times when it first came out, and then very recently I got it on Steam and played again for the first time since. Still as poignant.
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So I think it's actually really important that the games that would be considered objective masterpieces would have to overcome any language barriers and be an experience approachable by anyone. You can learn the mechanics to enjoy the gameplay without words
So:- Portal
- Journey
- Binding of Isaac
- Shadow of the Colossus
- Metro 2033 (which I have sat on and I believe even if it was entirely in Russian you would still get it )
- DOOM (original you don't need words you shoot)
- Super Mario Bros. 3
- Katamari Damacy
Then there are dialogue option stories that are fantastic stories that I could consider greats but shareable masterpieces is hard to say as they rely on you speaking the language both literally and then gameplay wise:
- Stanley Parable
- Outer Wilds
- Tales From the Borderlands
- To the Moon
- Talos Principle
- Golf Club Wasteland
- Dead Space
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Okay, now do it all on a bell curve.
What's the most absolute medium game, to which all other games are compared to, and if worse, fail, or are better and pass?
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Oooooh I like that question. I feel like it would have to be some kind of Call of Duty, right? Some absolutely mediocre slop that still has enough mechanical satisfaction and mind-numbing explosion-and-cliché-filled story to keep you somewhat entertained, yet still remaining completely forgettable.
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The McDonald's of videogames.
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Hell I'd make that a separate post!
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Pong.
It's that or tetris
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Zelda Breath of the wild for me. Don't get me wrong I enjoyed Tears of the Kingdom but breath of the wild scratched a perfect itch for me. Especially master mode. Well over 1000 hours played.
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I also maintain that Breath of the Wild was superior to Tears of the Kingdom. Apparently this opinion makes Zelda fans incredibly salty.
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It's the vibe. TotK just... Feels more industrial, and less clean and hopeful. BotW was just so pretty and you HAD to walk to places or glide the first time. The machines in TotK made it so easy to skip the nature that it felt less rewarding to play. Like, if you could just snap your fingers and have the perfect house immediately with no work, no effort, the house wouldn't feel as rewarding as one you built with your own skill.
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For be it's still System Shock 2
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Have you played Prey? Only other game to scratch that same itch for me.
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Prey 2017 or Prey 2006?
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"Abzû". That's a hill I'm willing to die on. Got to me even more than Journey or Jusant.
Also, thought very differently, "Senua Hellblade" because it perfectly displayed a condition that I could never fit into words.
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Metro 2033. Played it in the dark with good surround sound headphones on, and it's positively claustrophobic.
Last Light is good too, but at little too optimistic IMHO. 2033 nails that endless pit of despair feeling, with just enough lucky breaks that you might make it through.
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I would absolutely put that game up high on the lists as it is a perfect piece of atmospheric gameplay of misery incarnate.
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It took a while to get there, but Cyberpunk 2077.
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None. There's no such thing as an objective master piece. Games are art which is, by definition, subjective.
Edited to add, well this was way more controversial than I thought it would be.
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"Masterpiece" comes from the art world, and there are absolutely works everyone seems to agree qualify, such as:
- The Mona Lisa
- David statue
- David Copperfield by Charles Dickens
It's usually the best work by an artist, or at least the one that got them their recognition, and it stands out among other works in the field.
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If it's the one that got them their recognition, it's little more than arbitrary; luck, place and time; things that don't have to do with how good the work is. Some "masterpieces" weren't considered such until they were exposed to people over and over again, like The Mona Lisa at the Louvre or It's a Wonderful Life on TBS. I'd have a hard time calling a number of games masterpieces that I didn't care for, because this isn't objective.
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A masterpiece could just refer to a piece of art from a master. It could refer to the quality of an engineering project, or the skill involved in the work's creation. Are these not objective qualities?
I don't really think the Mona Lisa is a great image, personally (it's a boring portrait), but I can still recognize that it was masterfully done.
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This gets trickier with games, because an experienced game designer can, for instance, look at the UI design and graphics programming of a Ubisoft open world slopfest, and say those parts were masterfully done (even if the overall game isn't so fun). And, even the best of video games have bits of them that weren't as good.
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I think the word you are looking for is pedant.
Better vocabulary will help get your point across better. Without also sounding like an edgy atheist teen.
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It's low-grade trolling, chill bro. They're not serious.
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Games are not Art, they are Games.
Videogames can also be art, but they are also games and 'games' (note: not 'videogames') are not art.
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S tier
- Lufia
- Dragon Warrior 3
- Final Fantasy 3 & 7
- Sonic Adventure
- The Guardian Legend
- Ecco the Dolphin
- Silent Hill
- Mario Kart
- Dark Cloud 2
- Chronotrigger
- Zelda: A link to the past
- Submachine (flash)
A tier
- Oddworld, Abe’s Odyssey
- Resident Evil: codename Veronica
- Banjo Kazooie
- Mario RPG
- Donkey Kong Country
- Earthworm Jim
- Battletoads
- Wizards and Warriors 2
- Megaman 2
- Populous
- One Chance (flash)
- Daymare Town (flash)
- Abadox - hardest game I ever beat
B tier
- The Lion King
- Overlord
- Oregon Trail
- Dinopark Tycoon
- Snowboard Kids
- South Park
- Kid Icarus
- Sweet Home
- Monster Party
- Dr Mario
- Abobo’s Big Adventure (flash)
- Alice is Dead Ep 1 (flash)
- Starfox
- Shadowgate
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Ok. You leave questions on the board. You list Mario Party.....but which one?
And you list Mario Kart.....BUT WHICH ONE????
Careful. These questions have obviously right, and obviously wrong answers. This is the kind of serious business that could get you SHOT!
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Going with the OG - Super Mario Kart. 64 is close though.
Monster Party - if you haven’t played it, it’s a trip.
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Unironically Banjo-Kazooie though
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- Bloodborne
- Bioshock
- Hollow Knight
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Spec Ops: The line
Basically the "committing war crimes isn't funny after all" game
This is your fault, god-damnit 🫵
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Sekiro
Few games have such tight game design, story, lore, and characters blended so well into a single experience.
I don't think I even want or need a sequel.
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I tried playing it, but the combat... the combat, man, I can play many games, finished Elden Ring, played ton of CS1.6, Dota 2, Terraria Infernum... but Sekiro I could not finish.
I've heard it's a rhytmic game, but I suck at those, too.
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Sid Meier's Pirates.
Either version.
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I was going to say Sid Meier's Civilization, but both of them qualifies really.
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What's left of edith finch.
Such an amazing game. Absolute masterpiece.
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This is the game I used to convince my film nerd friends that games can be art too. They really enjoyed playing through it!
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Prey, System Shock 2, Outer Wilds, and Undertale are fully-realized microcosms where the primary game is unfolding the complex origami of the setting. All of them absolutely beautiful to experience.
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Do you think Return of the Obra Dinn would belong alongside these or is that game too flawed by comparison? I ask because I myself am not sure.
Oh, actually Disco Elysium would fit right in here as well as a "fully-realized microcosms where the primary game is unfolding the complex origami of the setting".
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Haven't actually played these two but from what I gather, they definitely fit the list!
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Antichamber
and maybe Portal
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Factorio.
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I didn’t see these listed so I’m dropping some objective masterpieces here:
- Persona 5 Royal
- Golden Sun
- Golden Sun: The Lost Age
- Horizon Zero Dawn
Edit: Added HZD as I didn’t see it while scrolling through this post.
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Chromehounds was the greatest mech game on shitbox 360 and you can't change my mind.
The sheer variety in player created metas was glorious to behold. Sure, you could play how the game encouraged you to play and hang your weapons in "normal" configurations. But you could also bury whole teams in indirect fire with a triple double from across the map. You could build a little punchy boi buggy with a dick piston, cockpit, wheels, and nothing else. You could even try to sweat the meta in the chicken leg howitzer or the turtle up in the armored crab.
The only limits were creativity and spacer availability lmfaooo
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It's pretty wack that we haven't since had a game that captures many of the better elements of Chrome hounds.
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Super Hexagon
It's about as simple as a 'modern' game can be (I read there was even a port of it to Commodore 64.) but it's a finely tuned machine. When you lose - and you will, a lot - it feels like mostly your own fault and not the game's.
The difficulty levels very accurately start at Hard for the easiest one. There are 6 total levels, the next 5 difficulties are Harder, Hardest, Hardester, Hardestest, and Hardestestest.
With much time and luck I can beat the first level (unlocking the 4th). On a lost save I had unlocked the 5th level by completing the 2nd, and have only ever seen the 6th in videos from other people. I would have to beat the 3rd to see it myself, and that's not happening.
The criteria to beat a level is "last for 60 seconds".
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It's really good, I played it again recently after not touching it for maybe 10 years, and finally beat the last difficulty in an attempt to prove to myself I'm still not old
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Super. Hexagon.
It's hard to explain the relief I felt upon beating the last level. I can fairly easily survive for 300s in the first one, but I've never gotten close to beating the last one again.
The most important tip I can give: if you have a 60Hz monitor, turn off VSync. Makes a huge difference.
There's also a "spiritual successor" called Open Hexagon that's extendable by the community if you want more, though I haven't played it myself.
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I'll have to try that vsync thing when I get a new PC (laptop). I'm playing stuff on my phone or Android tablet lately
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I thought at first you guys were thinking of this, and I was puzzled. Then I looked it up.
Crivens, it's like a combination of Tempest and Flappy Bird, but since it's a Terry Cavanagh game it's also been whacked over the head soundly with VVVVVV.
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Immersive sims: Prey, Dishonored, Deus Ex
Story-driven: The Last of Us, Horizon Zero Dawn, Halo, Batman: Arkham Asylum, Uncharted, HL2, Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay, Splinter Shock, The Walking Dead
Platformer: Braid, Ori and the Blind Forest, Mario 64, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Limbo
Action/roguelike: Bastion, Hades
RPG: Fallout: New Vegas, Mass Effect
Puzzle: Lumines, Puzzle Quest, World of Goo, You Must Build a Boat, Reigns, Threes, Meteos
Other: Desert Golfing
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Minesweeper.
Simple, endlessly playable.
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• Sonic the Hedgehog ( Genesis/Mega Drive )
• Chuzzle Deluxe
• Borderlands
• Baba Is You
Those would be some picks I would say are objective masterpieces, but that's subjective, I guess.
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Hollow Knight is peak
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Half-Life 2, both Psychonauts games, the Arkham series
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Nethack
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check out Caves of Qud if you're into NetHack
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Indeed!
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We’re including mobile games too, right?
Monument Valley
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Super Metroid
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Half-life 3 Mario 69 Pokemon Asbestos Super Smash Bros Bawl (if you ban Metaknight)
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Braid. Surprised that it wasn't mentioned yet
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Albion by BlueByte
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How come no one has mentioned “Life is strange” yet? Also, “A plague tale”.
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The intro to a plague tale... Jesus.
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SOMA was great
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I've been craving another experience like SOMA but unfortunately nothing even comes close. It was probably the coolest and most disturbing story I've ever seen. Finishing that game gave me an existential crisis for like 2 days after. It was that good.
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I feel like Soma was a decent metaphysical question wrapped in a okayish walking simulator.
It got a lot of praise, but basically boils down to the question "what makes you you" with nothing else about it standing out.
If the gameplay isn't a driving factor of making the game objectively good, then I don't think it counts.
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The lack of gameplay is fine, and very much important to call out for any new players. There's a whole genre of "you're playing a movie" that SOMA fits nicely into
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Personally I think story can make a game stand out far more than graphics or gameplay. I also disagree that the game boiled down to one question. While it was the primary focus of the narrative, the underwater laboratories and world building/history was amazing.
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ketsui deathtiny
castlevania: aria of sorrow
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I'd say games that have set the standard for their genre, and have not been surpassed, would be the only ones that count.
- Half Life 1 and then again with 2
- Half Life Alyx
- Age of Empires II
- Baldur's Gate 3
- Warframe
- Ratchet and Clank: Going Commando
- Knights of the Old Republic
- Fallout: New Vegas
- Crash Bandicoot: Warped
- Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
- The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, and then again with Tears of the Kingdom
- Elden Ring
- Hollow Knight
- Dirt Rally
- The World Ends With You (the original NDS version)
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Honestly, many of them you know full well, but that's because yes, they are that good:
- Minecraft
- TES III Morrowind and TES V Skyrim
- The Witcher 1 and 3
- Deus Ex Human Revolution and Mankind Divided
- Cyberpunk 2077
- Dishonored 1 and 2
- Warcraft III and World of Warcraft
Completely deserve their legendary status
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Out of recent ones, Blue Prince
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It's such a good puzzle box but I don't think I would call The Room, a masterpiece while it's still yet another great puzzle box game.
They are masterpieces in puzzles but maybe not games? I dunno why I don't consider them.
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Nobody can answer that question objectively.
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Metal Gear Solid 1-4. Ecco the dolphin? 😂 Good one!
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Team Fortress 2
The best teamshooter game to date, endless copy cats that suck ass.
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And the character trailers are hilarious.
"That thing ... It scares me," Pyro shooting bubbles and lollypops in his mind actually causing pure death and destruction
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It does have a couple sore points. The whole aimbots running rampant was awful. And it was one of the first major games to introduce and popularize micro transactions.
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Both true points, however Its still my favorite game of all time. To be fair I am a fanboy, my steam year in review last year was 99% TF2. I don't really play any other games besides tf2 still.
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Squarez Deluxe
Originally a paid DOS game and the developer is a cool dude who changed it to freeware. You can download it on myabandonware or archive org. Then grab a free copy of DOSBox.
In my view, it is the best shape packing game ever made, and it never really got its due, possibly in part to somewhat extra complexity, and partly from the time it came out.
You learn the ropes in the early modes, but you really need to play on EXTREME Mode. There are many different special pieces, and you decide how to move them in the playfield and rotate them.
There are mud traps and acid pits and missiles and bombs and traps. And you have to not only play the shape packing aspect, but you have to continually think about how to deploy these hazards, to your best advantage, or least disadvantage!
Over the years, I continually come back to this game, and I have probably sunk over a thousand hours since I was young.
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I don't see them in the comments so: UFO 50 and OneShot.
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I'd say :
- The first Deus Ex and its first prequel Human Revolution
- Mafia I
- Max Payne 1 and 3
- Crash Bandicoot 1
- Age of Empires II
- GTA III
- Doom 1/2
- First Half-Life
- First Unreal
- Doom 3
- Duke Nukem 3D
- Morrowind
- Skyrim (modded and fixed, vanilla is pure garbage)
- Blood Omen 1
- Silent Hill 1 and 2
- Resident Evil 1 and 4 (and their remakes)
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Rogue
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Mega Man X
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I see Outer Wilds here but not Nioh 2, so I'm posting about Nioh 2.
Soulsian adventure with ninja gaiden blood, extremely high amount of endgame content, wild depth of character building, lots of avenues to increase your character's power with many "correct answers" to the question of "how should I make my dude stronger". Dropped a while before the most recent push for graphical fidelity with AI upscaling/antialiasing so it actually runs well on a large majority of steam hardware surveys machines.
It's hard early on, but provides the player with tons of options when it comes to progressing through stages and bosses, flexible movesets for each class of weapon and access to potent tools like Gun and turning into an enemy that killed you a dozen times the first time you saw it briefly. The endgame goes beyond replaying through the game into dungeons made of fragments of the stages and some more unique maps (The Abyss). There's a hefty amount of individual bosses to learn, and incentive to do some of the more fun fights in the game multiple times - a lot of which do not require a run back through a stage to get to them. The game does itself a service by breaking up gameplay into chunks with a world map you launch missions from, some of which are just a singular straight up boss fight.
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Nioh 2 is one of my favorite soulslikes, but falls short of masterpiece in my opinion due to the repeatedly recycled levels.
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Have you played the mainline souls titles? The NG+ system in Nioh 2 leads out into new unique maps (The abyss) rather than being the same game with revamped enemy placement and health nine times lol.
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Bloodborne.
It’s also easy to tell most lemmyzens are PC gamers since I hardly saw anyone mention it and it is OBJECTIVELY THE GREATEST GAME EVER MADE.
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While I am primarily a PC gamer, it really is the best thing From Software has ever done and an objective masterpiece. I sometimes waffle between whether Bloodborne or Sekiro is my favorite, but regardless of my own preference, I do think Bloodborne is the best.
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Well, none because favorites are super subjective, but I'll shout out my favorites because no one else did:
- The Wonderful 101
- Bayonetta
- Ninja Gaiden II
- God Hand
- Viewtiful Joe
- Catherine
- Gravity Rush
- Guilty Gear XX Accent Core Plus R
- Under Night In-Birth II Sys:Celes
- Persona 4 Arena Ultimax
- Crimzon Clover: World EXplosion
- Ketsui: Kizuna Jigoku Tachi
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Catherine deserves to be on someone's list so glad you have it and Gravity rush is a good choice cause it was a fun use of mechanics.
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Elden Ring
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There is no game: wrong dimension
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I think Bioshock 1, Inscryption, Portal 1 & 2(I believe that 2 wouldn't be so loved if we didn't already love 1, I like to think of them as a set), Silent Hill 2, Resident Evil, Nier Automata, and Okami.
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Glad to see Okami mentioned here. It was poorly marketed, which basically killed the development company… But it was so good.
Some people have called it the best Zelda game never made, and I believe the description is accurate. It has all of the mechanics of Zelda’s puzzlebox dungeons. It’s just a different setting, and the “tools” to solve the puzzles are your brush abilities.
My only real complaint about the game is that it was long. Like every time I expected the game to be wrapping up, it would introduce an entirely new region. But that length also meant it was able to deliver a fully self-contained story that didn’t rely on cliffhangers (sequels) to finish. Sure there were some sequels, but the original story stands on its own without them.
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Braid Cave story
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Dungeon Keeper (with KeeperFX)
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The DS had plenty of fantastic games, but when it comes to a game I feel had the most beautiful example of using the controls in a creative way, I'd say The World Ends With You takes the cake.
I've literally never played a game that needed such a high degree of multitasking, not just for mental multitasking, but also hand-eye coordination. Playing that game on Hard mode felt crazy, and I literally never unlocked Master mode. Balancing between the top and bottom screen characters was such a challenge, especially if you're actually trying to make use of the green puck for more damage. The fact that each partner has their own battle method is fantastic too, as you never get too comfortable with one character until you finish the game.
Add in fantastic art design, catchy soundtrack, funny & memorable main cast, and you get absolute peak. I can't believe Square let that game rot for more than a decade. The Neo TWEWY sequel was pretty good too, but nothing will literally ever compare to the original's controls. It's just so addicting man.
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Oh forgot. Best multiplayer game ever has to be Counter Strike 1.6, CS:GO and potentially CS2 in a few years.
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Is disco Elysium the one with all the talking? Like multiple books worth of text? No thanks
Btw how is RDR2 not on the list?
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Disco Elysium is definitely closer to the visual novel spectrum of video games than it is to something like Tetris. But make no mistakes, its narrative and impact would be much lessened were it delivered in any other medium. It is absolutely a perfect example of how you use video games to make art.
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My biggest issue is I game late at night when everyone else is in bed, so a game like that would knock me out
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How do you even begin to care about anything in that game when you are basically mashing buttons for hours and just listening to people complain about how shit life is?
I get its an art piece of living the existence you are thrown into but it feels like a confusing mess even gameplay wise for the starting hours that people that have finished it I feel miss how unfun it is at first.
I didn't even know why I was now stuck on the other side of a wall in a union dispute and I just couldn't be bothered to restart the game to try something else after how long it took to get dressed the first time.
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ENA: Dream BBQ
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Halo 1-3
Forza horizon 2 & 3
COD blacc ops 1-2
MW 1 + 2
Need for Speed Most Wanted/Underground/2/Carbon
More I can’t think of rn
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