I wonder how much genocide it would take for these people to not support Biden

Are they going to explain HOW he "stopped a second cold war"? Is it because he's actively starting a hot WW3?

A proxy war against Russia and trade restrictions on China somehow don't count as a new cold war
Are they going to explain HOW he "stopped a second cold war"?
He saved us from a second cold war by kicking off half a dozen hot ones
cold
Uhh it's a hot war, sweaty
He was playing 4d chess

First off the police restrictions mentioned are a complete lie.

Lifted transgender military ban

Wow, now trans people can die for Raytheon too, almost makes you tear up.

arguably saved democracy in Europe

Omg just like Gladio! I love saving democracy by funding Nazis and manipulating the public.

illegal drugs and migrants seized; SECURED THE BORDER

arguably saved democracy in Europe
arguably doing a lot of work here
- Italy basically legalised nazi salutes (and by extension iconography probably too) just now.
- I'm arguably the coolest person in the world 😎
  It's a bad argument

SECURED THE BORDER

This former coworker who moved out to New Mexico from Florida came back to visit and when we were hanging out he brought up how securing the border was the most important thing. When I asked why it was so important, the reasons he gave were criminals and drugs.
The guy said he’s a liberal democrat
Of the many things that have changed over the years, liberals running so far right of their old stances on that is wild to me
I remember when they attacked Bush for his deranged waste of money building a wall
Now their guy is doing it and a solid chunk of them are right behind him on it
- It's literally just reflexive.
  Chuds say Biden supports open borders and they can't help themselves but go "actually he's doing way more at the border than Trump did..... why are people who didn't like trumps border policies mad at me?"

So glad he let Transgender people back into the military just in time to do war crimes

Really makes you feel included 🥰

Is your state banning trans care while Biden is still the President? Well then have we got the solution for you! /s
- Trans person: Man I'd really do anything to get rid of this dysphoria
  State department: Anything?
glad to know i can only exist as a person in america is if i help their nazi brigades sow terror on innocent people
- Always has been.

Also secured the border?? These people don't even try to hide that they're racist anymore

migrants siezed
His Border Patrol can't even get to the Rio Grande. How the fuck has he secured it?

Isn't the insulin cap price only for Medicare? That does almost nothing for most Americans. I would also like to know how my student debt was cancelled, because it most certainly is not.

EDIT: Oh, and imagine being super proud that your overlord "secured the border." I hate libs so much.

secured the border

oh boy we saving that hot fascism for last after all that milquetoast "progressive" shit, huh?

- Joe "Butcher of Brown" Biden
Always funny when theybtry to make this argument then run out of examples after three things that are 80% bullshit so they have to start listing things they think republicans would approve of.

We also have
- :pinocchio-left::pinocchio-middle::pinocchio-middle::pinocchio-right:
Yes, on the chokehold language. EOs cannot establish or change law, only congress can do that. EO can only affirm existing law, which is exactly what that EO does. All EOs are total BS, always have been. They are media rallying points for low information voters to serve the purposes of propaganda.
generally prohibits the use of chokeholds and carotid restraints except where the use of deadly force is authorized by law.
Wait, so the law literally says, "illegal except when legal"? LMFAAAAAAAAAO!

I appreciate the bravery it takes to post something like this on Lemmy.

One of the actual comments on the Lemmy.world post.

So brave. For all you FAR LEFT NUTJOBS who think Biden did nothing, I’ll have you know he protected America from being invaded by ILLEGALS (secured the border). Bet that changes your mind.
- If you think Joe Biden did nothing, then where do you think all those bombs raining down in the genocide of the palestinians are coming from? Checkmate Tankie.
All the genocide apologia in that thread....

Hey it's like Bush's policies but more conservative

love how all of these things either were fake or are actively bad.

[Patrick]: "Joe Biden hasnt done a damn thing!"

[Spongebob]: "Bombing Yemen"
\ "Funding Israeli genocide"
\ "Sabotaging peace talks in Ukraine"
\ "One million Covid deaths"

This shit got like, actual upvotes on some other parts of the fediverse that Hexbear isn't federated with....

- Yeah the comments were way different than I expected

They put that last one on there like it's supposed to be a positive lmaoooooooooooo

also allowing trans people into the military. lmao fuck you we're not joining the military in order to commit genocide
- This applies for our trans comrades but the life-value ratio is even higher

It's the same with insulin. The cap is only for senior citizens on medicare
no more half measures walter

Cancelled student debts of 20M poorest Americans

Cool, so their debt went away?

Cancelled as in those debts were revealed to have been on Little Saint James Island, so now they have trouble getting jobs. The debts are very much still there otherwise.
Did he actually do that? Or was it canceled just for those who should have had it removed years ago?
- The Supreme Court struck it down, it never actually went through

Lowest unemployment since the 60s

Yeah but the Biden administration is actually fighting against that. That was totally accidental and had nothing to do with Biden.

Also, and I will shout this out forever, they got this number by omitting everyone who has been unemployed for more than a few months or stopped looking for work. Just full-on
shit, and these dumbasses eat it up
- Yeah. I bet the largest reduction in the number of people on unemployment happened when they stopped extending it for COVID.
And unemployment doesn't mean shit when wages aren't even high enough to survive on. Great, he's maximized the number of people who are both working and can't afford rent.
Isnt it also partially due to legalising child labour?
- IIRC it's mostly just lying. The stats don't include anyone who's unemployed but not looking for work.
- I don't know if that one is really on Biden though. The Child labour thing seems to be a Republican-only idea for now, but I'm sure that by 2028, Democrats are going to look at deep-red states electing freaks who support child labour and conclude that Democrats must also support it.

Arguably saved democracy in Europe

"Arguably." Dems even feel the need to compromise with themselves.
Biden was heard yelling "Sic semper Tyrannis" before stabbing Elizabeth II 23 times in the torso.
I think that's what they mean by saving democracy.
- If he'd done that instead of the genocide I might have voted for him.
- Well she is dead, isn't she?

Flu vax is $60 in my area without insurance

All those police reforms apply to only federal pigs, most of which they didn't do anyway

Any good brought on by the keystone cancelation has been more than removed by the massive expansive in oil drilling permits

Insulin is not capped at $35 nationwide

Do these mfs think Putin was going to MW3 invade the entire European continent?

Do these mfs think Putin was going to MW3 invade the entire European continent?
Unironically, yes they do.
- Like half of Europe ALSO believes that. I've legit had arguments with people at my work as to whether or not Putin wants to invade Denmark, despite the fact that we are quite far away from Russia, and also don't have a russian population that we are actively persecuting.
Any good brought on by the keystone cancelation has been more than removed by the massive expansive in oil drilling permits
Also, it was already dead. It had been delayed due to legal challenges to the point where the capitalists were about to just shit-can the project anyway. It was direct action and movement pressure which canceled that pipeline. Biden literally just took credit once it was already a done deal.

Record low unemployment is a bad thing according to the federal reserve

no more half measures walter

EO 14074 is an excellent example of just how useless this administration is lmao. Obviously it didn't actually do anything claimed in the meme. It required federal police to review their use-of-force policies and offered local departments more fucking money in exchange for doing the same.

Killed Ayman al-Zawahiri

Lol

Stopped Putin

LOL

Putin has been stopped and his military is in shambles with 500,000 soldiers dead. Also if we don't give hundreds of billions of dollars to the military (in times of desperate living conditions) then Putin is mere hours away from annexing Europe all the way to the Atlantic. Yes, both of these can be true if you're not a loony leftist who can't use logic.
- Years of this and I'm still hearing "Putin's gotten in a bit over his head!!" it's incredible

Also, let's not leave out his biggest accomplishment: Biggest pro-life President of all time. Maybe don't trust an Irish Catholic when it comes to matters of family planning? Let's not forget that or let anyone else forget that. Convenient to not bring it up, eh?

this has to be some 3D trolling i don't believe someone making this wouldn't notice that they're attaching the supposedly positive actions to drawings of doo-doo diapers

Like "secure the border"?? That's what really stuck out to me, when has even the most right-wing 'lib' said the border needs to be secured?
- It used to be far more common. Before Trump. Maybe Dubya turned Democrats against it too a bit, but not sure. Obama certainly contributed to fascist immigration policy and border militarization, but he probably did it a bit more covertly, without taking open and explicit credit and bragging about it as much. If you go back to Clinton, though, he was all about openly criminalizing immigration, and the democrats' fan base ate it up at the time.

All that and he still hasn't done a damn thing

fuck this shit

lol

Is any of this even true? knowing liberals, and having seen nothing about all this, I can only be skeptical.

the only true parts are the ones that are actually bad

the democratic party deserves what's coming to it

Deserves worse frankly

half of these aren't even good and the other half are either distorted or so minor they're lame to brag about

Reminder: Congress is in charge of the laws and President just signs or vetos what is sent to him/her. Biden didn't do any of this. In particular, an EO can't legally do anything regarding changing what is already the law. So whenever anyone talks about an EO, you can throw it out the window.

Eh...I mean, the president does have an extreme amount of power. Congress can write a law and the president can basically just say, "Nah. Not gonna enforce it." Or the opposite: he can just tell his agencies to enforce shit that has nothing to do with the law (legal punishments are only a tiny portion of the violent abuse of police and the prison-industrial complex and other state business). Presidents have historically seized all kinds of power for the office without effective challenge/opposition.
But it's true that executive orders just saying, "I'll do what Congress has asked me to do," are not the wins that donkey fans want to make them out to be. And ones that are reactionary are nothing to brag about. And it's also true that even ones that would conceivably do some good aren't likely to do much past the current moment or the one president's term of rule. Though ordering the Department of Education to forgive all student loans would certainly be a good thing for a generation or two of working-class students, even though it wouldn't be nearly as good as shutting down the student loan industry completely like some actual legislation could.
He liberal hypocrisy, of course—especially when the president is on their team—is to turn their heads and ignore when he uses his power for terrible shit, and to shrug and throw up their hands and pretend he has no power at all when he doesn't use it for good stuff.
- I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
  yewtu.be
  inv.nadeko.net
  yt.artemislena.eu
  piped.video

turning a big dial taht says "Genocide" on it and constantly looking back at the audience for approval like a contestant on the price is right.

This is just a me thing, but I'd rather a police officer use a rear naked choke, let them pass out for a second, and wake up in handcuffs than the punching, weapons, and... "struggles" they go through to restrain people. I recognize it's a real monkey's paw moment

bold of you to assume police officers are educated enough to perform a sleeper safely or even would if they could when they also have the option to just sloppily choke you to death over the course of several minutes while people watch and film
- Oh absolutely. It's a monkey's paw. It's like if you went back in time and taught Chauvin how to do an RNC, thinking you've saved George Floyd, but then it happens anyway.
  It's on a theoretical level I've seen plenty of situations where you get a bunch of cops piling on top of someone or beating them with batons as they try and get the hands behind the back. If you're dealing with an honest to God dangerous person you could save both you and them a lot of violence by giving them the old unplugging and plugging back in.

Said this in the other thread, but certainly bears repeating here.

Hiatus on keystone pipeline expansion was a good step.

But then we’re immediately back to business as usual with insane production volumes of oil and gas (only thing America is #1 at in the world these days), continued massive subsidies for fossil fuel industry, and removal of benefits and subsidies for renewables.

THEN, he goes and does an absolute gimme for Manchin by allowing the Mountain Valley Pipeline to get rammed through Appalachia, violating dozens of environmental safety regs. I’d love for anyone to explain to me why Biden felt the need to reward Manchin this way… (yeah I know, Manchin did his job of obstructing the dem majority admirably, and they all love him for being that fall guy).

So really, this is a net negative on fossil fuels.

Still the best of the two choices though isn't he?

🔻🔻🔻
becoming a genocide denier because I'm too weak to deny my vote to the American Liberal Party
The thing I love about this take is that it's a perfect demonstration of where pragmatism and triangulation gets you.
- Logical outcome of doing ethics only through maths
You do not, under any circumstances, have to hand it to Genocide Joe
Liberals support genocide but pretend to be reluctant about it.
I don't even know that that's true. While Biden has made a few small things very marginally better for a small number of Americans, he has also made life miserable for millions of people internationally by instigating a war in Europe with his nemesis, enabling and funding a genocide and regional war in the Middle East, and very nearly instigating yet another war between Taiwan and China. Trump was horrendous for domestic things like transgenderism. He also didn't start three wars in four years that have so far already claimed hundreds of thousands of lives.
- Yeah, calling Xi a dictator, smooth move. What a moron, all the Chinese/Taiwanese Americans I know were like, WTF is wrong with this guy?
But also, he's the second worst of 2 choices. And if you're Palestinian or Houthi, he's the first worse.
Bud you never had to comment, it’s okay to not know anything.
We have more than 2 choices. I'm voting Jill Stein -again!
- Ghost of Eugene Debs! and Albert Einstein as his running m8.
- It's her turn
if the two choices are genocide im not participating in your pathetic farce of a democracy
hell yeah dude
No. He is much, much worse than Trump.
Yea in the same way between being shot in the head and the stomach getting shot in the head is the better option.
For a party that claims to care about Democracy its shitty to not even hold a Primary in most states. In my state the only options I get are Genocide Joe and "No Preference". So guess who isn't taking the Democratic ballot?
I don't have time to answer all of you but I wondered how you justified handing the election to Trump. It appears that's not just a side effect but really the goal.
- You seem like the kind of guy that would say we have to vote for Hindenburg over Hitler.
- Libs quit doing drive-by posting and actually defend their stance challenge.
- They captured you in a box.
  You have to look outside.
- Here I'll justify it.
  I won't vote for anybody actively and enthusiastically enabling a genocide.
  If that is too high a bar for dems to clear, that's dems problem not mine.
  Now let's flip it.
  I wondered how you justified supporting a genocide. It appears that's not just a side effect but really the goal.
- If the democratic party was at all interested in the opinion of the general public (which includes you and me), they would at least run some primaries and go through the motions of a western liberal democracy. Instead, they've decided to rerun 2020 on the hope that the bold message of "He's not Trump" will work again.
  The election is in eleven months - if Biden loses the fault lands squarely on the democrats for covering their ears and saying "lalalala" any time someone suggests maybe actually doing something resembling democracy. Or hey you can continue to pre-blame the left for an election that hasn't happened yet and accuse us of actually being conservatives, certainly that will convince us to line up behind Genocide Joe.
- your "democracy" is a sham and here's why
- It appears that's not just a side effect but really the goal.
  
  libs can't imagine any politics outside of
- The last time I voted for a Democrat for President, she beat Trump by more than three millions votes then conceded, handing the election to Trump all on her own.
- shut the fuck up
- Read and learn something:
  https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/190kry6/comment/kgpjw7i/
  https://www.reddit.com/r/TheDeprogram/comments/1900pyw/but_what_about_trump_answering_the_lesser_of_two/