Trump signs order to declassify files on JFK, MLK assassinations

The order that Trump signed says that a "plan" to release the JFK files must be created within 15 days and a "plan" to release the RFK and MLK files must be released within 45 days. So it seems like in 2 weeks, they will give us another date.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/01/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-orders-declassification-of-jfk-rfk-and-mlk-assassination-files/

I work with a lib who thinks it's a silly conspiracy theory that the CIA would have been involved, and I get the vibe from him that he believes it would actually change things if the facts came out and it was actually the CIA behind it; I've spent a fair bit of time trying to convince him that unlike in the movies, when the facts come out and they reveal horrific stuff, people will just find reasons to be okay with it (as opposed to movies that give the impression that the truth coming out would cause change, as if America isn't just a lib/chud wasteland).

I would be interested less in who did it (because no matter what the president signs, if people think the CIA won't still hide shit, well... share the magical drugs with me!) and more if we can get like concrete, recorded official reasons why JFK was shot.

A lot of the assumptions about their involvement hinge on known resentments between the Kennedy bros and the intelligence agencies. There's "the whole Bay of Pigs thing" (Nixon quote) which obviously drove a huge wedge between them. Plus JFK was circumventing normal communication lines during the missile crisis to speak with the USSR. Basically says to all his little generals and directors and such like "I don't trust you psychos. I'll just handle this personally in the background."

Anyway, not trying to paint JFK as like a "peaceful" guy. He wasn't. He spent his career consistently running as a democrat on a platform of "I hate commies more than republicans!" (Like Nixon) There seems to be some evidence he changed at least partially right before getting his head blown off. He was more open to talks with Castro anyway. Then blammo.

If the CIA does admit it finally, I'd like to know when the decision was made and reasons why. But obviously this is a pipedream. They ain't releasing that even if it ever existed. And all the accomplices have been dead for a decade or longer at this point.

At least November Caldwell-Kelly would have to admit she was wrong.

Pet theory: Trump will attempt to use it to give rationale aside from his personal grievances to wind down the FBI

It will be revealed that George W. Bush killed JFK.

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“TED CRUZ’S DAD DID IT.

• US GOVERNMENT ASSASSINATION DEPT”

i mean the fact that Allen Dulles was one of the seven commissioners appointed to the Warren Commission should really say it all.

from "The Devil's Chessboard" (very good read) four years before Dulles died:

That little Kennedy . . . he thought he was a god.”

The words were sharp and wrong, like a curse shattering the civility of the soft evening air. They seemed particularly strange coming from the genial older gentleman strolling by Willie Morris’s side. In fact, they were the only strident remarks that Morris had heard him utter in the past few days, as the graying spymaster regaled his young visitor with a lifetime of covert adventures.

And then the storm passed. The man was himself again—the chatty and amiable Allen Welsh Dulles, a man whose conviviality masked a world of dark secrets.

real pappy bush 'deluded gunman' shit, these guys never hid what they did

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Maaaate, if this had all happened 4 hours 18 mins earlier me and you could have been having beers on the moon.

yup it likes how we only have a tiny sliver of documents relating to mkultra. It's public knowledge now that most of the documents relating to it were destroyed

Definitely one of the worst case scenarios, so pretty likely to happen

I think he's still pissed at the Muller Report and January 6th. despite not suffering any consequences. It's merely the fact they investigated him at all. He'll take revenge on people for the smallest slights based entirely on principle. The feds did stuff that maybe, kind of, sort of, possibly could have caused him some distress, so now he'll go Night of the Long Knives on them because of it.

Very legal