Florida Cops will kill protesters.
Florida Cops will kill protesters.
Florida Cops will kill protesters.
Good. Don't act like a bozo if you don't want to die, it's not hard.
just saying this would be reason enough for him to lose his job in any civilized country
Credible threat to kill earns you up to 10 years
Grew up there, Ivey is a white supremacist and a terrible sheriff and person.
We're noticing, yes
Sounds like he's wanting to replace the disgraced and convicted Joe Arpaio in fascist minds.
Some of those that work forces...
It just doesn't stop playing in my head.
Yeah that's called escalating. If the Nazi's policy is to kill on sight, the solution is to kill the Nazi before it sees you.
That dude is basically ordering Florida civilians to engage cops in guerilla warfare.
Nice police-work, dipshit. 👍
So why shouldn't the protesters shoot to kill as well?
That's the point, they're inciting violence.
They need the excuse to install a complete police state.
That's pretty much what they're stating here--they're telling protestors in Florida to skip the non-lethal weapons
There it is. Law enforcement has openly declared to kill protesters. You now know that you must fight them like your life depends on it, because they have admitted their intent.
This is exactly the behavior your 2nd amendment rights are meant to protect you from. They are ready & excited to kill you. What are you willing to do to stop them?
No shade, but this is a simplistic understanding of the dynamics at play.
Protests go like this : slow & joyful start, march, sing, march some more, have a good time, then at some point a smoke grenade triggers somewhere behind you. Did anyone see where it came from? If someone did, their eyewitness account is immediately drowned in the crowd trying the flee from the fumes. Some light panic ensues : not everybody knows what the movement is about, what the danger is, and that's very scary. The handful of people who saw the cop roll the grenade shout, or possibly send it back towards the cop line. This small commotion is used as casus belli, because that's all they're waiting for : an excuse to beat people to death.
This is from experience of protests in France (mostly Marseille)
English might be my second language but I think both of you are agreeing that the police said they're gonna kill people
All I hear is if you want to attack us make sure you kill us because if you don't we will kill you
Is that the message sheriff donut?
It's like they forget that can happen, or why there's an escalation ladder
Yep.
That’s what I read.
That's what I heard.
Profoundly stupid for this fool to show his face on camera while openly threatening to kill American citizens.
But he's a Trump supporter, so being profoundly stupid is par for the course.
If things actually did pop off in this country, anyone that has shown their face on camera in opposition to the American people will not be safe.
Thanks god for that - if things truly do go to hell I’ll take immense joy in watching these fascists get their comeuppance , helping when I can too!
IF they go to hell? you're already there.
Not just profoundly stupid, but proudly so as well
What's your stop someone from creating an app of top 10,000 worst people or something similar?
Dude, they'll be given an amnesty and remain where they are.
This is why I went from supporting gun control to not supporting it anymore. Cops should absolutely fear armed protesters in all countries.
Yup.
Been for strict gun control all my life. And, in a decent country, I still would be.
But this isn't a decent country. It's a country full of low-IQ fools and fascists and racists, so it's time to get armed and prepare for the worst, which appears to be where we're headed.
Guns will not stop a tank, fighter jet or nuclear armed submarine. Does the outdated second armament go far enough?
Tanks can burn
Jets struggle against individual personnel
I don't really give a damn about nukes because it sounds like a fast death
You cannot occupy an area without exposed boots on the ground and those footsoldiers are absolutely susceptible to small arms
Stop giving up because it sounds hard
1 sniper can kill many, many enemy officers. This is a historical precedent.
You don't need heavy artillery to wage guerilla warfare and cripple an enemy's operational capabilities.
A bunch of farmers in Vietnam outlasted us using those tactics.
Im so sick of this argument. Tell me again how we were defeated in Afghanistan? The US military has a horrible track record when fighting against insurgents and guerrillas.
I'll let you know as soon as a nuclear armed submarine is rolling down my block
"The enemy can not press a button... if you have disabled his hand ...Medic!"
Will they stop pigs like this sheriff?
Look at that fucking pig
the only thing hes killing is all those donuts, and mcdonalds. he will collapse any moment from a cornary.
arnt you wierded about by the plastic doll standing next to him
I mean, saying this is only going to escalate the situation and increase the tension.
What if the protestors say back in return: “If you point a gun at one of us protestors, your coworkers will be notifying your family where to collect your remains”?
The dude is just asking for a fight.
Yep - they started a fight and now they're threatening the people who would have every right to fight back but have as yet shown remarkable restraint
Well, you heard it here. It's perfectly fine to shoot cops with AR-15s if they shoot you with rubber bullets. If they can kill you for tossing a brick, you can kill them for shooting people unprovoked with "less lethal" munitions. Those rubber bullets are just as dangerous as bricks, and the cops are shooting them with impunity. By their own logic, any officer that shoots a rubber bullet at someone deserves to have their head blown off.
I hope the reply from protestors is...
We will kill you
If you forget that you are public servants, and you ignore our Constitutional rights, then you have no authority under that same Constitution.
If you hit one of us, then we are going to hit back, and we outnumber you 50-1. If you let the dogs loose on us, then we will kill the dogs, and the officer that looses them, as this is a lethal action with the intent of bodily harm.
If you gas us, or shoot us with "less lethal" weapons, then we will defend ourselves with as much force as necessary. We are exercising our rights as citizens, you are public servants with the express purpose of protecting citizens and upholding our rights. Police authority is written on the back of the social contract that enshrines our rights. You can't rip up one without ripping up the other.
See you motheruckers on the street.
PS. Every protestor there ought to show up with an open carry, preferably a longarm.
I can appreciate and agree with this to some extent, but the entire point of this is to provoke exactly that reaction so that they can justify the horrors they want to carry out.
I can't think of a counter except to be willing to be the first side shot. then clear out, then the NEXT day return armed. Put that space in there, a clear timeline of how the violence started, who started it, something of record. THEN you come back.
The whole thing hangs off the rule of law. There aren’t enough cops to control the population, it only works because the population controls itself because they accept the rule of law. If the cops go rogue or the politicians, eventually the belief in the rule falters then chaos.
You’re talking rule of law vs rule by law.
I don’t get what they think the endgame is going to be here. Because it’s not going to work out well for them either.
That's not chaos, that's progress. (The coup circa 1993)
I'm not sure what the intended effect of this statement is... But what I can tell you, is that bringing firearms to Florida protest seems to be mandatory. The police should be shot on sight during an escalation. Because if you don't, they are gonna use any excuse to do the same to us. The rule of law only works if we can all agree to not murder each other.
...also dunno. Like, are they telling people to commit? That's what it sounds like. If you dare try to fight for your country, we will try to murdrr you - so you need to be ready to actually fight because there's nowgere to run.
Do they know what animals do when pushed into a corner?
Open carry rifles is probably the best way to keep the cops from escalating. If any group is planning on having open carry members, make sure they aren't plants and make sure they know proper trigger discipline. Make sure that no media sees them taking aim first or idly fingering the trigger. Do not have them in the middle of the group. Make sure that they are prepped to answer any questions clearly and directly to any press.
Psycho criminal declaring his illegal intentions aloud
He should be subject to citizens arrest.
Maybe a no knock warrant, middle of the night kind of citizens arrest.
Yeah, except no arrest, just the usual extrajudicial execution that happens.
god i am so grateful to live in Europe
Same but in Middle East
This one must hurt xD
German federal police to be equipped with Tasers by end of 2025 - The Local Germany
US Police, coming soon to a country near you!
slight difference in de-escalation training though. Our police has years of civil-work-courses before they are allowed on the streets. Also gun culture is night and day, cops here dont feel urged to use lethal force, because criminals most of the times are unarmed here
God, I have read this title wrong. I read that Germany will equip policedog with Tasers. I was already picturing German Shepherds running at people with tasers in their mouth.
Please send help.
If it's anything like last time, it'll be about 6 years.
At this rate it looks like we should count the first 4 years, so help should begin around September 2027.
The neo liberal imperialist yankee way will make it to you eventually... Ameridumb "culture" spreads like a virus. You are still apart of the death cult that is yankkkeee doodle dandy dumb dumb capitalism. You are just not In the imperial core. The pigglets in Yankee land are incredibly violent though. A special breed.
America's number 1 export since the end of WW2 has been culture. From Hollywood and music to games, fashion, the English language, and Microsoft, American culture has been dominant for decades.
Damn it's almost like defunding the police was a necessity and not some radical fringe movement.
Stop trying to make this political.
/s
America is cooked.
Peaceful protest? Nah. Violent insurrection.
you don't matter to them and they think the only opinion you should have is theirs
Anything that violates that makes you a threat to national security, a terrorist, and a criminal. If they won't respect the rule of law, neither should you.
Defund the police. Fire everyone on that police force. They're all rotten and crooked.
.... It won't happen since the owners of America actually want this to happen.
Here's the fact: one way or another they finally put someone who is mentally insane enough to push their policies, into the Whitehouse. Now that he's there, they will push their beliefs onto everyone as a matter of law. If you obey the law, they'll win by default since the laws are currently theirs to control. If you protest and revolt, it's a violent terrorist insurrection that must be quelled, and you become a military dictatorship and the same outcome happens as before, but now with more guns and violence. You can't win by doing nothing. You can't win by doing something.
You can't win.
Also, "they" in this context is the people who have long since bought and paid for the house, the Senate, the supreme Court, the police, the feds.... They're the corporate interests that are hostile to your continued existence and freedom. You can exist but only as they permit. Freedom is actively being robbed from the American people.
If any of this is shocking or unclear to you, then I'm afraid you're not paying attention.
This dumb fuck just opened up a world of extra legal fun.
Really hoping someone guns down a nosy PIG abusing their authority and then claims castle doctrine - I mean it’s right there, that dumb pig fuck straight up told you the cops will illegally kill you if you feel like it, and castle doctrine allows you to defend yourself….
in a logical world that would stand to reason, but this is desantisland, where they'll simply drop a bomb on your house or roll an APC through it. any resistance from the people will be curbstomped because they know they have to make examples if they want to remain in control.
edit: aww the downvote from desantisland makes me laugh
Using police dogs to attack people is animal abuse, not to mention abuse of a person who hasn’t been convicted of anything. By teaching a dog to attack humans is some ancient, barbaric bullshit. It’s an abuse on the dog to turn them into weapons
don't forget the horses & the nazi assholes who abuse them.
ACAB
This one especially
You guys already know they’ll order the police in to harass protesters, intentionally escalate to violence, then piss themselves and call in the national guard when they can’t handle it anymore
All I see is a tiny, insecure so-called man talking tough and playing with guns to convince the world he’s not a scared child inside.
So making death threats is legal now in the US?
If you are part of the correct class
Can you imagine tabling this evidence in a civil case against police brutality. It would be a slam dunk if the US police were accountable like in civilised countries. The fact that they can say it out loud is indicative that the US is beyind fucked.
The US has gone from my let's organize an intervention for that fuck up friend list to their fucking poison and will drag the rest of us down with them if we don't keep our distance.
"Police" and "accountable" in the same sentence? In civilized countries it usually takes years and people have to fight the public opinion, politicians' PR machine and hope that they'll find a reasonable judge.
Cool. Then I expect there to be plenty of bacon 6 feet under. If the police are going to kill Americans for no legal reason. I expect the Americans to do what Americans do and fight back.
Squeeeeel for me boy. Squeeeeeel!
That is unconstitutional and a violation of civil rights. It's also a death threat. These pigs need an ass kicking.
I think Florida has open carry laws right?
I was just about to say. Sounds like we have nothing to lose.
Fuck the facist pigs
Thank you for the image. Really good list of all the jobs more necessary and less respected than the cops with full immunity to do whatever they want.
Nursing is not on the list and is more dangerous.
Weirdest shit was the time I was drunk with a cop buddy. With his cop friends. Who were also getting loose lips and telling stories and one of them checked them all and said. I wasn’t a cop. And not to talk about that stuff around me. Still bothers me. I never saw that friend again. But ya. Wild stuff.
what
They were getting a little too real with their stories. Of getting shot at and doing overall terrible vile actions.
So he's openly making death threats? Someone needs to arrest him.
We need to make police-police to deal with these types.
…reforge homeland security into the department of civil liberty…
Tiananmen 2: USA "Freedom™" Edition Boogaloo
That is a weird understanding of the law. As any elementary school kid (outside the US) knows: Doesn't matter if the suspect stole a chewing gum or killed someone - they need to be stopped and arrested with the least harm possible.
Punishment is done by the courts. Not a police job.
Cops are so brave until you dox them and their families. they realize that it is only 4 cops at the most per 1000 people in most of the cities/towns. The only advantage they have is the "law" (chicken scratch on the piece of toilet paper), communication and organization. Cops = 0 morality. Just a bunch of criminal thugs who for some reason thing that they have an authority over any other human being.
It is good to know the rules of engagement
Fuck these coward facist pigs, slave catchers, strike breakers, class traitors. Protectors of cancerous capitalist ruling class .
Is it time to post the home addresses of police yet?
The best time was a year ago, the 2nd best time is today
Don't worry, Lemmy will absolutely protect them.
I wouldn't expect anything less from that dumpster fire of an instance.
Real "occupying military presence" vibe off the guys who are supposed to Serve and Protect.
Beginning to wonder if cops aren't here to be my friend.
Sounds like it's time to start killing Florida cops
The onion cant event make shit up to compete with this sick joke of a reality anymore..
I mean, in all reality, the thing to do is post up well away from anything with a decent scope and pop off a few. Move, repeat. Cops facing east? Be in the west. They pivot, someone in the east pops a few.
People on the ground aren't going to be in a gun fight with cops if they have any sense at all. You want long range shit with good muzzle velocity and a flat-ish trajectory.
The man just declared war on his constant. So don't fucking play.
So I always though it would be neat if a few drones with laser pointers would orientate their lazers at any cops with particularly egregious records.
You know... Just so people can watch out for them.
If your opponent is of choleric temper, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant.
Go shoot some pigs weaklings
Sound to me like Florida is going to be legislating firearm restrictions later this year.
To think this is the country that wasted 24 years spreading freedom and democracy in the Middle East.
This is the "freedom" they were spreading.
It's the reason everyone in Iraq knows how to build IEDs
can i post this to /c/memes?
Sure
Fuck that guy
... I don't think a democratic society can survive if this is the attitude of the law inforcement.
I was at a protest earlier to day. We walked down the streets and kept getting followed by dudes revving their engines.
He is saying if you do anything to us it should be extremely violent. I'm sure he doesn't realize that.
To serve and protect... Ourselves.
I keep reading about some stupid American saying this, that. ELI5, are there any normal people in America and if there are, why do they elect the stupid ones?
Yes there are normal people in America. I don't have time to explain gerrymandering and all the other fuckery Republicans use to get elected. And I know this question isn't real because I trust you're not so bigoted as to judge an entire people of a country as one
I do not condemn the whole country, nation, religion, race, ... football fans, ... whatever, based on some small (or large) group of people from that community.
FYI, I live in a country that is problematic, a lot of corruption, untouchable and dishonest politicians, slow changes in society, divisions of all kinds, mostly on national, religious and political grounds. In every country there are normal people and those who have some kind of problem in their heads and the ability to project that problem, transfer it to others.
Somehow the USA was a "beacon" of democracy, where only during elections it matters who you vote for. It turns out that the USA is a shithole country like the others, only it has a much better economy (for some) and better propaganda.
Also there are tons of Americans with no desire to think
one third for Trump, one third against, and one third
couldn’t be bothered to voteare systematically and militantly disenfranchised.
It should also be noted that Dems repeatedly rejected popular calls to neuter the fascist state - reforming immigration laws to guarantee a path to citizenship, defunding ICE and the DEA and other proto-fascist organs of the Federal government, reversing mandatory minimums, prosecuting bureaucrats for abuse of power, beefing up public defender budgets, nationalizing and dismantling prisons, etc.
All popular goals. All achievable through reforms out of any single branch of government. All smothered within the last three decades of periodic liberal control.
Biden/Harris siding with the genocidal Netanyahu government and going on an anti-immigration crusade during her VP tenure blurred the lines between Dem and GOP so heavily that people couldn't distinguish a difference.
Just like with Gore in '00 and Clinton in '16 and their scramble to the far-right of the party to shore up support with mega-donors, the Dems seeded their own defeat and handed power willingly to fascist regime after fascist regime.
Billionaires have all the money in the world to buy all the propaganda they need to manipulate all the poorly educated people they can to get the politicians they want elected to rule the country as they wish.
Don't gloat too much though, they are coming for you as well. AFD, Reform UK, RN, Sweden Democrats, all the same thing.
My casual observation living in the US is that a sufficient percentage of the population is cursed. In a first past the post system %50.1 are enough. The appeal of racism and violence in US-society predates its independence, the indigenous peoples and the enslaved know it too well.
I believe most will be explained if you watch the movie Idiocracy. When Trump got elected the first time the director of the movie said he never intended for it to be a documentary.
Slogan "to hurt our own citizens for minor infractions while exercising they human rights we swore to protect and to serve rich assholes". But that's to long so "to hurt you and to serve rich assholes".
I think Micheal Bay got it right in Transformers. "To enslave and punish."
Get your optics and suppressors ready. 😂
My wife was plating this on her phone and I seriously thought it was a comedy bit. That fucking guy is a fascist piece of shit.
Did you not know by the uniform?
That's one way to earn trust with the community I guess.
incredible what decades of fox propaganda has done to you guys.
I mean, I was half joking (taking into account the events in LA and seeing pictures/video of unarmed folk getting shot/assaulted) when I made this, but as usual Florida manages to meet and even exceed my satirical expectations…
Cowards
'You better be prepared to wage war': Self-proclaimed 'politically incorrect' Florida sheriff urges citizens to arm themselves in case of a terror attack
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4592428/Sheriff-urges-citizens-arm-case-attack.html
By DAILYMAIL.COM REPORTER
Published: 21:24 EDT, 10 June 2017 | Updated: 17:14 EDT, 11 June 2017
The self-proclaimed 'politically-incorrect' sheriff then urged his viewers to carry their concealed weapons and said Americans were at war.
It's not nice of him to say it like that, but that's pretty much what everyone knows cops are doing. I don't think anyone expects a different outcome.
One could argue a peaceful protest is different from a riot and cops shouldn't kill peaceful protesters, but there's always a chance they will.
If someone wants zero risk, they can only do short operations that don't need much media coverage to be effective and without a chance for the cops to be present or find them afterwards.
All of those situations can be avoided by them not ordering their officers to show up and harass the protesters. If the cops actually stayed out of the way and allowed them to peacefully protest, there is never a point where anyone should get spit on, hit, or threatened. Then again, if police weren't treating everyone as criminals all the time, it would severely reduce the number of officers they would need.
Partly because of respect, and partly because when you aren't harassing the population, they don't have as many reasons to react.
that's true, but past violent protests with looting and causing damage led to broad calls of regular citizens for police to be there just in case. then, there are those among police who enjoy hurting others and will try to escalate any peaceful protest to a fight.
the only way to end this spiral, would be for protesters to instantly take down rioters among themselves, disperse and go home, so it would become a rare exception for riots to start and police would no longer show up after a few years. but is this realistic? even if some groups manage to do that, others won't. also police could always send instigators who throw the first brick, then leave, so their colleagues have a reason to kill some protesters
What is the point of this comment that you made and the decision to make it?
the point is to inspire people who don't want to risk their health or want to be more effective to find more effective ways to cause change.
the decision to make it was, that i don't like to watch ppl get hurt and know there are more effective ways, which spoil if one mentions them too publicly. So ppl have to come up with them privately, so the cops can't expect and hurt them.
piece of shit cowards.
Illegal.
Enough is enough.
It's always sheriff's. The ironic lack of accountability due to it being a democratically elected position is pretty wild.
Seems like a good way to get your shitty employees killed.
No wonder why in the USA they hate the police
I mean there's also decades of police abuse. DECADES.
More like centuries
Brevard is a shithole that's only notable because the KSS is in it.
No one is protesting there, the toy soldiers just want to pretend that they matter.
I lived in Brevard County back in 2004-07. Was never a fan. I'm happy every day I returned to the Boston area. Fuck Florida as a whole.
All Cops Are Nazis.
NWA baby. Kill Nazis first.
It's a good thing that these worthless turds aren't aware that there's a "hurricane season". Maybe mother nature could take care of a needing to wipe her ass and just bidet the fuck outta Florida...
Let see what happen next time they request help from FEMA, it might not even exist anymore.
Something about some leopards
So unprofessional
can we sue for threatening us?
That's crazy, all I read was a bunch of oinks
Arm the fuck up people.
I think maybe he things that makes him sound tough, instead of like a problem in desperate need of solving that could have been ignored had it not been so persistent.
Well, folks, in for a penny in for a pound, right?
"My gun is much bigger (and beautifuler) than yours"
...if you point a gun at them, throw a brick or a firebomb. I guess I'd defend myself too in that case.
Guess we find out tomorrow
Projection
& guess who's cheering for them.
Yes he's terrible, but also, if you point a gun at a cop [person with a gun] you should be aware that they might shoot you first.
And if they are part of a group of people with guns, they may not shoot first but one of the other guys with guns will go after you.
Killing someone for throwing a brick though, that's not even.
I'm sure it will probably be applied for anyone throwing a brick, as you say. But there's video of some stupid fuck parked on a motorcycle throwing heavy rocks at police car windshields while they're driving past at relatively high speeds. Now that brick & rock, if it hits just right.....could cause a horrible accident, could just through & physically injure a cop, etc. I remember reading a story about someone tossing frozen spaghetti off a freeway onto cars, kinda random/hilarious if it didn't have horrific consequences attached.
Long-short, some of that rock & brick throwing I'm seeing at moving police cars at high speed could, and should, be construed as attempted murder. That isn't even close to peaceful protesting, and even if they're dumb enough to not think of it as attempted murder, that doesn't excuse them from the consequences of their actions.
Bad cop no donut.
Aren't the names and identities of these officers a matter of public record?
I SUPPORT this Patriot! How DARE we let people have FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS! Don't they know the ONLY Amendment that Matters is ANY that lets us KILL KIDS?
Them sound like fighting words...
On an unrelated note you shouldn't start anything you are willing to finish
Obviously a rabid Harris voter, I said, sarcastically before you could downvote this
"Beautiful" problem reaction solution.
Clearly redonculous authoritarian move. How about doxing the criminals in the uniform and do a real "eye for eye" to their families?
Bring up the Palantir war machine with drones to eliminate any opposition so that the rest would shake in convulsions just thinking of doing anything against the "law" and the largest criminal organization.
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No one in this forum who calls for violence against other people and sometimes for the killing of cops is even a bit better than this brain-dead sheriff. American society is so deeply divided.
Opposing a militant regime seeking to do harm to you and yours is not the same as enacting systemic violence to oppress marginalized people.
If cops and the state are gonna call to kill protestors then protestors and the people being targeted can call to arm themselves to defend against it.
Yes, America is divided. For good reason.
Indeed, no hope for America and Americans. This is a civil war that can take decades to heal
...has a message for protesters in Brevard County...
You mean the "kill" message is for protesters who:
...throw a brick, a firebomb, or point a gun at one of our deputies...
This is just crazy. I don't think this has happened in any other country in the world as far as I know.
Umm.. there's been brutal dictaterships throughout history that have done far worse. There are some RIGHT NOW doing far worse.
You guys lack strategy.
Do it like a Bundy ranch - get armed. They won't touch you if you are bunch of armed people
Do it like a Bundy ranch
What was notable about Bundy Ranch is how gentle the police were even after they'd been shot at.
This wasn't an issue of firepower, it was an issue of white nationalism. Police sympathized with the ranchers in a way they simply do not with anyone young, particularly of color.
Compare that to the FBI raiding the Waco compound or the US Marshalls going after Ruby Ridge. Police have no trouble showing up at your door with a tank. The only thing that protects you is ethnicity.
If only the cops of my third world country could do this against criminals, we would be safer
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