Say what you will about jocks, but it's the nerds burning down the world to generate women that suspiciously look like children

“Progressivism never took root in geek culture because gamers didn’t see themselves as persecuted nerds, but as temporarily embarrassed jocks.” - DragonBallZinn

Nah the former jocks include finance bros and car dealership owners. You may not think of that as jock labor but they didn’t all go on and become professional athletes.

finance bros and car dealership owners.
100% + the new techbros and cryptonerds. The talenyed athletes are not usually the stereotypical jocks.
- I don’t have the exact quote but in high school English it was required reading that we read this sci-fi book called Unwind and one of the protagonists actually made this connection.
  “There were two types of cops: the bullies who peaked in high school that want to keep reliving their glory days, and people who were bullied that want to oppress undesirables as a misguided way to get revenge on ‘wrongdoers’.” - Unwind (not exact quote just what I vaguely remember.)
  But it explains the two types of fascists and those in fash jobs perfectly.
  EDIT: Here’s the full quote -
  “The way Risa sees it, there are two types of people who become Juvey-cops. Type one: bullies who want to spend their lives reliving their glory days of high school bullying. Type Two: the former victims of type ones, who see every Unwind as the kid who tormented them all those years ago. Type twos are endlessly shoveling vengeance into a pit that will never be full. Amazing that the bullies and victims can now work together to bring misery to others.“
The overlap in personality types between moneyed City of London finance bro trader types, and Silicon Valley start up wanks was startling when I first moved to SF. Engineers just exist to support their pump and dump schemes, and the culture reflects that

Are there any highschool subcultures that are cool now? Speaking from a US perspective:

Jocks are now finance/crypto bros, or clueless managers.
Nerds are building bombs or AI or spending their days trying to get people to click on ads.
Theatre kids are imperialist hamilton libs who think the US is "a nation of immigrants", and not a settler-state based on indigenous eviction.
Hippies are pacifist color-revolution-supporters.
Goths are probably eco-nihilists.
My experience with modern day punks, skaters, and stoners is that they're mostly some kind of libertarian who believe in a lot of reactionary conspiracy theories.
Hipsters are almost always some flavor of western-chauvinist / white supremacist.

I was just thinking that everyone who is recognizable to their high school archetype is probably part of the problem.
literally, if all someone does is move along the rails after high school, they likely suck.
the only people from high school who aren't fucked in the dome 20+ years later, are the people who are wildly different humans now and have some life path that can't be quickly understood without interpretation.
also, the people who just plain vanished and don't have any socials could probably be cool.
Do any of these high school subcultures even still exist?
Goths are our best bet. They also have a lot of experience of dealing with anything of a spooky nature.
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In a world where everyone is a prep in spirit, be a proud goth.
Goths are probably eco-nihilists.
I prefer green anarchist doomer.
Where did all the Greasers go?
- These days they're mostly in retirement homes I think.

jocks are crypto scammers, cops, and people high on the corporate ladder, hell the chief executive overlord of those nerds in the picture is probably a jock

Notable jock Elongated Muskrat
- Ur-CEO big wet dump was a jock in his highschool and college days

sure lets devolve everything to dumb stereotypes made up to sell merch thats very marxist of us

its not that deep
Death to America
- im tired boss
Americans will divide themselves with little outside input. Under capitalist alienation, they seek to find an in-group with the most asinine qualifications possible. The end product are clothing that says something like "I am a VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTER born in FEBRUARY who is a SLYTHERIN and likes COFFEE and AIRSOFT"
"Yeah I'm a nerd, I'm a Hoosier, I listen to Tool, I drink La Croix, I drive stick, I live in the suburbs, I watch DCEU #ReleaseYetAnothetSnyderCut, I own cats. What sportsball team is playing in the Superb Owl this year? Haha"
I think it's perfectly fine to make fun of them for their voluntary association with even ostensibly benign labels.
- granfalloons
We're just having fun
- ban fun
I work with these people and I was surrounded by their subculture as a child. They all deserve death. It's a very reactionary subculture with strong ingroup identity and hostility towards the outgroup of basically anyone else. The alt-right pipeline was created by these people. They dream of being slave owners.

Jocks commiting war crimes:

Nah these days those are nerds too. I have a job where a work with a bunch of vets and most of them are massive fucking nerds who never held a rifle outside of basic.
- Okay, but the Navy SEALs and infantry war criminals are jocks

Anyone who had the pleasure of being in STEM would know that in 1 picosecond.

More specifically TE part. I’ve taken biology classes and usually the bio majors are great people.
Way too many CS bros are just business majors in spirit that are at least smart enough to learn a real skill.
- Didn't have the pleasure to interact with biology students in Uni, though I'll admit the people I met from biomedical engineering were pretty cool overall.
objection there are plenty of jocks in STEM, its a jock field these days except for maybe CS and software eng
- Also true

They're nerds, we're nerds, it's nerds all the way down.

No, they're nerds we're dorks.
Big difference.

it's all down to the theatre kids to save the world now

Hamilton 2: Ham Harder???
They already did in 2020, but ah well nevertheless
Theatre kids always stay winning. Even the dumb libs among them will end world hunger one day.
I say this as someone who def wasn’t a theatre kids. They’re the best.
Disclaimer: I am strictly speaking of Theatre kids. Not singers, not dancers, not people who act only occasionally for artistic expression.
- Why must our greatest hopes always be our most annoying hopes?
- I say this as someone who def wasn’t a theatre kids. They’re the best.
  I married a theater kid you're right
- I was a theatre kid too but I didn't kept at it sadly
My experience of theatre kids as adults is vaguely left vibes but will defend Hamilton to the death

She grok on my twitter til I X dot com the everything site

Grok's woke

If you're in tech and you're not trans, a gay furry or friends with a bunch of trans furries, you're in this picture.

why is the stereotype of big impressive sportman called 'jock'? while the 'jockey' is the smallest species of sportman?

Jockstraps?
- horse jockey-->bike jockey-->jock-strap for bike jockey-->jock-strap for jocks
  is how wikipedia tells it, seems about right

Was plato right about the requirement of a strong body being needed to balance a strong mind?

Mao Zedong also agreed: Civilize the mind, and make savage the body.
Pick being both jock and nerd.
- :synthisis:

Yeah, the jocks are just selling cars at their Dad's dealerships, same as they always were.

The nerds on the other hand are wasting potable water all for the chance to have their computers to produce porn for them before they even search for it.