the IVF clinic bomber was an anti-natalist redditor

~~kill yourself and everyone around you but make it ecofash redditor~~
Tbh this kid was severely disturbed and exploited by what appears to be half a dozen self harm cults that exist on the periphery of social medias like tumblr and reddit.
Looks like textbook "i had a best friend who was the only one who understood me" stuff that is actually two people who desperately needed psychiatric help encouraging eachother into greater levels of harm. You see it with eating disorders and other cultish movements like incels which prey on kids of this age.
This shit has bubbled under the surface for years but it was ignored as long as it affected individuals. God knows what will happen now that some are becoming militant against others in their own harm.

right wing ideology repackaged into faux concern about the suffering of other people. Could have done a Luigi or Rodney L Hinton but noo, why would you do something that benefits society and maybe improves material conditions or sends a message to the rich elite / their cronies.

This is what a few hundred years of capitalism does to people

The last paragraph really drives home that this person just led a fucked up and depressing existence, and then, on top of that, a close friend dying/being murdered/suiciding in a clearly confusing arrangement.
I dunno. I don't feel overly angry at this person, what they've done is utterly and truly awful and should never have been done. But I can see how an awful life like that could totally warp your view of the world. I'm extremely mad at our shit society that frequently lets people get to this point without helping them or really giving a shit.
- Yeah this was very close to my worldview after a life of trauma, until I slowly shifted towards leftism then Marxism. A sort of reification of mental illness and despair into a quasi-ideology.
  It takes more than a nudge for these feelings to develop into a belief system and produce results like this. The West expends so much energy eradicating leftist thought from the culture, giving unmaterialist and destructive ideologies like this an evolutionary advantage. Not to mention how many cases like this are likely enabled/influenced/caused by feds.
  I'm mostly just sad.
- But I can see how an awful life like that could totally warp your view of the world.
  yeah i'm not gonna go bomb a fertility clinic but my life has been predominately suffering and it would be a crime to force someone to live many of our lives.

Is anyone else increaseingly worried they'll get taken out by one of these maniacs. America is so unsafe, but everyone acts like its nbd. I hate it. I dream of the day I'm in China and won't have to worry im gonna get blown up, or shot randomly while grocery shopping or something.
- By the most alienated idiot with the most stupid "ideology"
- One of my biggest fears is being killed by one of these people, but specifically in large part because of the indignity of being killed by one of these types of jackasses.
  
  Misanthropy with Mass Effect characteristics.
- As someone who is trans and fled the United States recently because of the political situation- The psychic damage from constantly being exposed to mass shootings and other attacks is real and it does affect quality of life and I think it’s rude as hell to paint people as cowards for wanting to emigrate.

I'm not a psycho, but....
A true nihilist would have just killed himself and been done with it. Instead overdose of liberalism and hyper individualism makes people just not want to live, but also make a show of murdering other people, because the "show" puts them and their ego on the center stage.
- he shits on nihilism in the (alleged) manifesto

First Anime-American suicide bomber
I read this whole thing and the words "despair is typical of those who do not understand the causes of evil" crashed through the roof and destroyed my fish tank.

Post contains ableism, r-slur, discussion and encouragement of self-harm, links to transphobia, anti-furry, anti-autism, probably more toxic content but noped out.

Also have an awful feeling despite all the awful stuff, carnists are going to focus on “he was a vegan” like they vegetarianjacket hitler to try to justify their unethical behahiour.
- Yeah I saw that too. After leaving the mod team of vegan circlejerk that whole community was tied to antinatalism and it upset me to see that. I wrote a statement on it and this for the vegan theory club:
  https://vegantheoryclub.org/post/1589146 https://hexbear.net/post/4951471
  
  So that's what happened to VCJ, I pretty much stopped reading it after the antinatalism stuff started popping up all over that sub. Sucks, because I always thought that was one of the only good subs on that shithole site and as sad as it is to admit, the posts on there making fun of carnists and vegetarians helped me go vegan.
- (random bad guy) didn’t eat meat so actually somehow that makes you bad too and im good for eating an animal that was kept in a tiny box since it was a baby to stop its bones from getting hard and keep its meat soft. im not basically perpetuating a holocaust at all.
- I thought Hitler was a vegetarian, not fully vegan.
  
  He wasn't even vegetarian. He still are meat, just infrequently since it upset his stomach
  
  Like if people that is going to use it to attack veganism cares about the difference

Really didnt have a anime-brainedpoisoned new-athiest anti-natalist carmakazi bomber on my 2025 bingo card.
But here we are.

In the download directory, you should be able to find an mp3 file where I explain, but basically, I'm a promortalist. Efil blaise explains what this is quite well.
We had a thread here about Efilists subreddit just a week or two ago and this happens. Someone took the Inmendham jrpg villian arc seriously
- Smelled like fed shit then and it smells like fed shit now. The right has been itching for someone like this to come along and here they are. They also left an audio diary and a webzone explaining their motives in a way that fits exactly with the right's grudges against environmentalists.
  
  The fed shit is putting a magnifying glass on these bullshit reddit philosophies and actively encouraging their spread, because they know someone like this (or lots of someones) will do stuff like this. This isn't a "false flag" or anything, just the natural consequences of the feds steering people away from leftist political thought and into nonsensical right wing violence.
- Inmendham
  oh holy fuck this unlocked some memories
  (specifically of him being a much-derided figure in the "new atheist" youtube circles back when I watched that shit in the late 2000's)

real life person with the philosophy of an over the top supervillain
- The Efilists' ideology came about within a year of Gurren Lagann being distributed in the US. I have no evidence of this but I swear it looks like the guy behind Efilism literally just saw the fucking Anti-Spirals and thought "neat, this is definitely a coherent and reasonable ideology, DNA really is the ultimate evil that will destroy everything, we should be the antithesis of all life and progress". Efilism is literally a cartoon villain ideology, and not just in the abstract it's literally one specific, somewhat famous cartoon villain ideology.
  
  How is that the TTGL ideology that caught on irl? Is it that the type of guy who unironically lifts his ideology from anime just definitionally isn't cool enough to be Kamina?

least brainwormed burger

You know there's something seriously wrong with capitalist society when a ”philosophy” as nonsensical as efilism is developed.
Whoa, it's like…life spelled backwards, that means we should kill everyone. That's so deep.
I also think this post needs CWs for ableism and self-harm, the last paragraph on that site is so sad
- Average efilist fan vs average htaedist enjoyer

All a promortalist is saying is let's make it happen sooner rather than later (and preferably peaceful rather than some disease or accident), to prevent your future suffering, and, more importantly, the suffering your existence will cause to all the other sentient beings.
Wow they killed one person whoo. Suffering is over for all sentient beings! lets go

It's not like you can end all suffering, delete the universe by snapping your fingers.
- It's not like you can end all suffering, delete the universe by snapping your fingers.
  no they just think life is bad, there's inherent value in the universe. somehow.
  
  AFAIK the reasoning is
  Suffering = bad
  Joy = good
  No suffering = good
  No joy = neutral
  Therefore, life, which contains suffering and joy, is neutral. But no life, which would avoid suffering entirely, would be good. The inherent value in the universe is the avoidance of suffering.
- Seriously, wouldn't real anti-natalist "praxis" be like dumping a bunch of birth control in the water supply?
  
  if you take anti natalism to its real logical extreme, then you have to actually want the human race to prosper enough to build a giant sun death laser that eradicates all life in the galaxy periodically on auto pilot and then kill your entire species
  
  Not spectacular enough, needs to be the DNA-eating poison from Promentheus

wow what a cringlord. praise allah he blew his dumb ass up

This is what happens when a culture doesn't understand happiness isn't the end goal of life. Consumerism which promotes idea of earning your happiness through constant self-improvement has its logical conclusion in this idea that all which isn't happy or striving for happiness through consumption is wasted. This is functionally same ideology as those social media life coaches selling the hustle grindset.
- This is what happens when a culture doesn't understand happiness isn't the end goal of life.
  Where can I read more about this?
  
  Are you asking for a specific book talking about this concept? I am not sure if there is anything comparative this way but in a lot of cultures historical and contemporary the idea of fulfilment is tied to different formulae (sometimes evoking that image of formula, for example "Alchemy of Happiness" by Al-Ghazali), it is a broad spectrum with variety theological and philosophical understandings whether it is spiritual or mundane. Happiness can come from fulfilment but it is more of a fleeting feeling that's not reliable as a long term goal so these religious or personal beliefs often emphasize other factors for it, from self-sacrifice to community to purpose whether one agrees or not. Consumerist culture is something else entirely, because it sells happiness which is elusive and hard to define, you are always meant to self-improve towards productivity to service this idea of acquiring happiness as an utilitarian currency which you exchange for your toil so life is proposed as an expense for goal of happiness. This latter idea of consumerism and happiness is something that has been written about specifically. As for the connection of both to each other and this event that's a personal interpretation I made. I suppose one could just call it a "hot take" that way.

Dang, I had thoughts like this for a while. Thank the heavens I found some actual sense of purpose in life.

How does anarchism always seem to find its way into these bullshit ideologies?
- Anarchism has cool branding. If you're already just grabbing ideologies at random to combine, why not go for the one with the coolest logo?
  
  Same reason why everyone wants to be punk imo
- My brother is a straight up fascist and one of his first tattoos was the A symbol. I still don't get it.
  
  If anarchism is primarily about the liberation of the individual free from the impositions of others then it just a short step to apply that only to a small group and subjugate the rest.
- Lack of theory
  
  Which theory?

This needs a CW for the ableism buried way deep in the middle of this weird ass manifesto. And many other things actually

That's the most reddit thing I've ever seen

i wouldn't say anti-natalism was the primary ideology at work here.

Huh I genuinely thought it was an anti-abortion thing (IVF and abortion are obs-gynae and some doctors do both).

Not just anti-natalist, they were an EFILite so they wanted to extinguished all life in existence.

Reddit is nuking posts about this.
- Of course they are, otherwise people might want the anti-natalism subreddits banned, and that's where the CIA recruits 90% of their
  these days.

I just found out what "elifism" (life spelled backwards) was a few days ago, when somebody mentioned it on the collapse subreddit, now this happens, how weird.

You can't debate his commitment to the cause. He started with himself.

Anti-natalism isn't the problem here, it's lack of understanding. What does blowing up a fertility clinic really accomplish in the long run.
I say this as an anti-natalist with a pro-mortalist lean. All this person did was increase suffering in the world, for no reason.
- There are bad actors in every group, but the vast majority of these people (i.e. antinatalists) do not engage in acts of violence.
  Painting them with this brush would be like pointing at parents who abuse their children and then saying that all parents abuse their children. It’s obvious bullshit.
  
  I may not represent the majority opinion for these ideologies, because I don't spend my free time in these communities, but I'll try to sum up my thoughts on taking actions informed by this kind of thinking.
  Good anti-natalists with any measure of forethought should very quickly come to the conclusion that small scale terrorism doesn't do anything to solve the crisis of new life, or to reduce suffering- which is supposed to be the goal.
  Good pro-mortalists, if given the opportunity to solve all suffering once and for all, should very quickly come to the conclusion that regardless of their thoughts on the bigger questions, it isn't up to them or anyone else to press that button or turn that key.
  Its delusional thinking to believe that just because you know everyone is probably better off dead, other people shouldn't be allowed to go on suffering, or to bring about another generation of sufferers, if that's what they choose to do.
  If you are heavily pro-mortalist, and you think life would be better off dead; Congratulations, the laws of physics are on your side! Every source of heat and life that has ever existed will inevitably be snuffed out and the universe will just be a bunch of cold little rocks, which will continue to get further and further away from eachother until they're eventually just little islands of nothing, in an ocean of nothing, screaming off into nothing.
  You win in the end, no reason to rush things.

what a loser lol good riddance

The website says you can download the video of it, but it doesn’t look like the video ever showed up.