Donut Shop Worker Refuses to Be on Camera with JD Vance During Campaign Stop
Donut Shop Worker Refuses to Be on Camera with JD Vance During Campaign Stop
Aren't you supposed to plan appearances like this ahead of time to prevent this exact thing from happening?
Plan? The only plan they got is project 2025. I don't think it spells out how to order donuts without acting weird.
Imagine being born in a position of privledge, and never being told "no" in your entire life. Why would you ever make a plan when you make the subconscious assumption that everyone operates around what you want?
On a related note, this is why "Woke" is so offensive to people like JD Vance. "We were doing just fine before you people started complaining!" is an easy thought to have from the lap of luxuryn
Why would you ever make a plan when you make the subconscious assumption that everyone operates around what you want?
Because their whole life has been geared toward allowing them to believe they are entitled to everything.
As always, calling others "entitled" was pure projection.
from my understanding (and thats making the whole situation even more baffling) he grew up in a ohioan blue-collar family, which means he probably heard "no" more then enough.
especially regarding the family couch.
They're all magas here were I work so it didn't work out as well, but our congressional rep planned a stop over here so I planned a day off. I wish more people would have done that, but I live in asshole land. :/
When I worked at a store that sold guns in 2016, supposedly there was a chance that a certain oddly-colored cheeto would be making a PR appearance after a speech in town.
I straight up told my manager if they actually think it's a real possibility then I will not be returning to work after my lunch break. I don't think for a second my threat actually made a difference, but I'd like to think my manager and district manager would take their ONLY trained tech for their most profitable services in 8 states and risk them leaving over a PR stunt they know will piss off half the people who shop there.
However when one of the red hats found out that the district manager called corporate to say it wasn't a good idea, they quit. Granted, nobody cared since it was their first week, but I know they were talking about being desperate for work they were qualified for that won't do a background check. So they quit over stupid shit when they apparently needed the money.
Logic is not strong with that crowd.
Planning is only as good as the planner. Sometimes you still end up giving a press conference at the wrong Four Seasons.
Oh for sure, happens all the time, was hardly of note even
[insert "Four Seasons Total Landscaping" reference]
they're so full of themselves they cannot conceive of someone who doesn't want to comply with them and get a moment of fame on TV. that person denying to be on camera probably destroyed his mood for the whole day as he wondered what he did- "there's no way she hates me so much she doesn't want to be seen on TV next to me... I'm famous!"
This clip proved to me that couchfucker Vance is definitely not "from the middle class"
Hes obviously never ordered donuts himself. No clue what they are, expects to walk in and get handed a box of glazed donuts and a box of mixed donuts, while people are amazed and happy to have "someone like him" in the store.
I mean... if all you ever did was buy donuts at a supermarket, you kind of would expect that.
I don't buy a lot of donuts (personally not a big fan and they make for weird interactions at work) but when I do? My order is usually "Uh. Three or four boston creme, three or four jelly, and then whatever you have a lot of for the rest". And I have definitely done the Dunkin run where it is "a box o joe and then two dozen of whatever donuts. Also
<insert breakfast standwich here>
."So I won't fault couch fucker for having a hard time picking out donuts or basically just saying "I don't care, just give me two dozen donuts. Feel free to pick the stale ones". But it is more just the overall shitshow of it for not having someone run up ahead to make sure the store and staff were cool with it.
Story time! Back in... damn I guess it would have been 08? Obama and Biden were doing the "man of the people" bullshit. Incredibly blue region with strong ties to Biden so it was basically a freebie to record a few press bits. Was getting lunch and chatting with a buddy about all the cars on the street and the like when some 20-something year old girl in a suit comes in. She leans in and asks the person at the counter something and then comes around to the various tables to make small talk and ask leading but kind of inflammatory questions. She asked us what our views on abortion were (and, while I won't repeat what my buddy said because it was definitely sexist, it was quite possibly the greatest failed pick-up line of all time). She then gets up and states something like "In five minutes, Obama and Biden will be walking through that door. We apologize for the inconvenience. As we get closer, anyone who does not want to be on camera will be directed to move over towards that wall. It will only be for ten minutes and we will pay for everyone's meal, regardless of if you are on camera or not. Thank you".
And, let me tell you? Buying lunch for a bunch of students goes a long way toward making for a warm reception. And while it was obvious they had been prepped on the menu, it was also obvious that this was the kind of food both future presidents ate semi-regularly. And it was obvious they had been prepped on which tables were likely avid democrats, which were republicans, and which were dumbass kids who were hitting on the point person for the casual "So, what can we do to earn your vote?" style bits.
But... that is kind of the thing. It is not a complicated bit of theatre. I am sure the approach has changed a bit (now that everyone has camera phones and tiktok) but it still holds true. Have someone run ahead to make sure you aren't entering a hostile situation that will just make everyone look bad.
I’m curious about these weird workplace donut interactions you’ve had.
I kinda need to hear the terrible pickup line, though.
The anecdote of the recon girl in the suit is one of the most interesting that I've read in some time. Totally makes sense that they would do that.
How do folks feel about whether that low level of deceit is appropriate?
When I think about the costs, I think maybe a couple people spent a couple minutes of their time giving opinions they might not have if they had had all the information up front. But tiny hurt feelings seems the biggest downside, I guess, which shouldn’t be too problematic.
Of course if the staffer told the whole truth, an activist could feign support to secure an interaction where they shout down the candidate on their pet issue (“a TAN suit, Barrack?!”).
What an absolute weirdo. Choosing my (half-)dozen mixed donuts is one of the bigger joys of a donut run.
He's the guy in the suburbs with the "cowboy up" stickered lifted fuel tuned diesel on 38's that he's upside down on payments on because he spent this months trust fund payout on cocaine and ED pills.
We all know that guy.
The guy with knotted tires run half-baked because he only drives it on paved roads, the dirtiest it gets is when it rains, and the most it's ever hauled is a kids seat in the back. He was so close to buying a boat but always complains about gAs PrIcEs
I like how she asked not to be filmed and they filmed her anyway and then released it.
It really shows how much they care about a woman’s consent.
Could be even more sinister than that. Like if you think about it, why would they want to show that? It doesn't show anything positive about his campaign or engagement, so releasing that footage won't help him directly. But he is aware of how aggressive some of Trump's supporters can be with people they hate. So I wonder if he decided to post that part of the video specifically to trigger the MAGAs that would harass (or worse) the business and/or employees.
I don't know what the situation in the states is, but wouldn't she be allowed to sue him for this, because they disrespected their privacy?
She should. It's a "public" place, but it's not like she chose to be there at that moment because she knew Vance was going to be there. She has no other choice than to be there, per the terms of her contract.
It really shows how much they care about a woman’s consent.
I don't need consent from my TV in order to watch it.
Edit: Ran afoul of Poe's Law.
"Surely no one would actually believe I was serious right?"
Internet: Gestures broadly
This is why people say magapublicans are weird, they're so out of touch!
Has Vance never been in a bakery before!? Quick tip: when they ask you what you want, don't reply "I mean a lot of glazed here. Some sprinkle stuff. Some of these cinnamon rolls. Just whatever makes sense."
What??
Try ordering from the menu. Or ask them what's good. Or request an assortment of the most popular kinds...
It's one donut JD, how much could it cost, $10?
If I were trying to be fair, I'd argue that that basically was an attempt to order an assorted dozen, albeit an awkward one.
But fascists don't deserve fairness, so I won't.
I bet Walz stops at a donut shop tomorrow. I think he knows his way around one quite well.
Just whatever makes sense
"...For a photo op, im not eating this pleb shit"
This sounds awfully close to "Dijon mustard on a burger! How out of touch can you be!" Levels of ridiculousness.
“I mean a lot of glazed here. Some sprinkle stuff. Some of these cinnamon rolls. Just whatever makes sense.”
You gotta see it from their perspective, they're CEOs (presumably) and aren't used to knowing the details. They just vaguely point in vague directions ("pitch") and let the employees figure out the rest.
"I'm JD Vance I'm running for vice president," Vance said. "Good to see you."
The employee sounds unmoved and replies with "okay" and waits for him to begin his order.
Does he expect people to get down on their knees after he tells them that?
"okay..."
silence
"I'm sorry but we don't have any couch shaped donuts"
"Oh we're prepared for this! One moment please!"
Call to the back: "Guys, we need the plastic cover for the couch, it's a code V!"
"I'm sorry, our couch donuts aren't glazed."
JD Vance, tugging on his suddenly sweaty shirt collar: "Oh I think I can help out there."
Or "okay..."
"Then it's cash only..."
The "Please Clap" energy was intense nostalgic.
"What are your intentions with my donuts?"
I literally laughed
The "OK" crushed him. He was expecting any reaction and she could give 2 shits about him. Order your donuts and get the fuck out, ain't nobody got time for your ass.
Kind of wish she had said, "That's weird."
My fantasy:,
"Not under Trump, right?"
"Actually..."
"Ewwww"
He must not have anyone competent on his staff if this happens. Usually they send people ahead to check to see if the people working there want to be on camera and talk
maybe aides all hate him.
If he had competent staff they would have stopped him from being Trump's running mate.
not the focus of ths video but along with many appearances, I've never heard him laugh like a human being.
are you fucking kidding me, making fun of Harris laughing when this guy's mouth does what i can only assume is an arcane incantation meant to awaken elder horrors from their timeless slumber?
Isn't it weird the Republican nominees don't laugh like most people?I haven't watched much of Vance to notice this but since they're ragging on Harris for laughing I bet that's a big bullet point to avoid when he's in public.
Emotions are difficult for them outside of fear and anger over “everything wrong with this country”. They don’t like public display of emotion, as evidenced by their sharp criticism of Walz’ son Gus crying at the convention. They do seem pretty happy to inflict suffering where they can.
Isn't it weird the Republican nominees don't laugh like most people?
It's because they're sociopaths, but not the well adjusted kind that can blend into society.
Has tRump ever laughed? I can't recall ever seeing a clip of him laughing. I bet when he does, it's to something horrible happening to women & children
If angels existed, they would each and every one weep tears of joy when she said, “…okay.”
We need a Tim Walz donut shop clip with the consent of all the employees being filmed
Tim Walz buying individual donuts for each customer and his entourage with him engaging with everyone.
"we got consent from all the people in the video."
"That lady clearly did not consent."
"we got consent from all the people in the video."
This is the closest I could find:
"I'm running for vice president!"
"Sir, this is a Wendys."
I'm kind of a big deal
Please clap.
The only thing he could make conversation about was how old the business was and how long they worked at the donut shop. Aren't politicians supposed to be charismatic?
Wow, what a charismatic guy, that wasn't painful to watch at all...
Totally normal small talk, "how long you worked here? How long has this place been open? How about you how long have you worked here? Yeah? Good. How long? Good."
Confirmed lizard person.
Vance is the embodiment of cringe. He’s been hanging out in Silicon Valley with Peter Thiel for so long that he’s forgotten how to even pretend to be a normal person.
Is he buddies with Thiel? Didn't think he could be more of a scum bag
He's his venture capitalist
Peter Thiel bankrolled JD's political career.
All these tech bro billionaires are trying to remake America into their weird little libertarian fantasy land.
Don’t ask if anyone’s ever tried fucking the donuts. Don’t ask if anyone’s ever tried fucking the donuts.
"Hasanyoneevertriedfuckingthedonuts??"
"Uhhh... Let's try this again, Vance. This time, maybe just ask people a simple question. Like, 'how long have you worked here?' Or, 'how long has this place been open?'
How long have you worked here?
How long have you worked here?
How long have you worked here?
How long has this place been here?
Some great questions there, JD.
"I don't want to be on film." Is put on film.
Exactly! Don't turn off the cameras, just audibly proclaim the footage will be edited not to include her.
...So anyway, here's the footage including her
I don't understand. She's clearly still on film, and not cut out. I can see her right there.
Who cares about respecting consent when there are news articles to manufacture and profit from?
In that first video she's clearly visible. But if you watch the others that were retweeted (re-xed?), her face is blurred out. I too don't understand it but there it is.
lol donut runs aren’t going to humanize these ghouls when their policies are hostile to life 💀
It's not a fun donut & chocolate milk on a lazy Sunday morning vibe but more a corporate quarterly meeting vibe.
"I'm JD Vance I'm running for vice president"
I'm sure in EVERY conversation he says that line.
I love how the employee says "okay". Though a better response would have been a sigh and then a very underwhelming "I know".
That was my favorite part.
Another alternative I'll never forget, delivered by my BA co-worker before business hours after someone waltzed in:
RudePerson: "Hi, I'm the owner of the complex across the street, a-
Joe cool: congratulations!
<offers hand>
This got me. Running against who? lmao "I'm the Republican VP" saying he's "running for VP" makes it sound like there's a field of candidates.
Her asking to not be shown shows Vances team didn't set this photoshoot up properly. Like if you had called ahead you would have gotten the people who were (more likely to be) all smiles and wanted to be on camera and had engaged the conversation to look good for an op. Instead like most of these shit heels they just show up in the fucking store with 30 fucking people unannounced, and order untold amounts of food the put the drive through and other in-house orders into lockup for an hour so we can finish this one $185 order because shitfuck in charge couldn't be bothered to call ahead and say "hey we're bringing a bunch of people - like 15-20. We'll be there in 10 minutes, also we're doing a public outreach recording if you have a policy around which staff you want present for that"
But no they just walk in, make conversation holding up lines and get staff who don't want to be on camera answering their order.
Her asking to not be shown shows Vances team didn't set this photoshoot up properly.
And yet they still released the video!
They might be worried that that would risk him having to face someone who is really prepared to confront him.
It was all salvageable up to that point, then it became a catastrophe.
I'm jd vance I run after the ex president.
No cream filled please. Filling soft cushions is my favorite part!
He sees an eclair for the first time...and his face lights up with glee...
Hah. It's not the first time a Republican has been flummoxed by a cash register.
Not a fan of Bush or the GOP but the Wikipedia article basically refutes that he was flummoxed...
Whereas here Mr. Vance's cringe is kind of palpable.
I'd be uncomfortable around him too. I mean I've got couches at home to think about.
And watch the MAGA death threats begin because the donut shop didn't kiss JDs feet when he walked in
I think it would be very interesting to see how they’d react if maga issuing the death threats started getting anonymous death threats themselves.
Just watch, they're gonna start sending JD Vance sperm samples to the donut shop as retribution
What a weirdo
Oh my that "okay.." was perfect. You could tell it tripped him up hard mentally. He had to resort to asking the same question to everyone there. "How long have you worked here? How long have you worked here? How long have you worked here?"
Priceless.
That was marvelously uncomfortable.
I wanna see Tim Walz do this exact activity... Even better if it was at the same donut place.
Then, when they share it, maybe highlight the weird from the normal? Like a football play by play?
This reminds me of when Australian PM, Scotty from Marketing went to inspect the damage after enormous bush fires after being shamed in to cutting his holiday in Hawaii short while his country was on fire.
Remember when Trump went to Puerto Rico after a 175mph, Cat 5 hurricane and literally threw paper towel rolls at people?
I seem to remember during covid he went on trips too.
When he was kicked out of being pm, he refused to resign too
Tony Abbott was a huge wanker, but at least he volunteers. I'm not sure what good Scotty does (at least he's not an abusive ass I guess like Trump, so there is at least that..)
Uncle bad touch vibes.
There's also this guy who yelled at the prime minister to get off his lawn:
Nobody is above the lawn.
Ha! Youtube comments aren't always trash I guess.
I'd forgotten this. Gold.
Wow. just wow.
Right wing nut jobs cosplaying as human is always cringe. We have pierre poilievre up in Canada every public appearance is a cringe fest. #RightWingCringe #jd(couchfucker)vance #Canada #SquintyMcProudBoy
I couldn't finish the full clip. Sooooo awkward.
"Look! I totally go out and buy donuts just like you guys! See?! 😉"
ahhh, my eyes 😵
😂😂😂
"JD Vance order a donut challenge: (Level impossible)"
I laughed a little at that.
Good for that worker. I never want to be on camera for any reason and would be hiding in the back if this happened to me.
Every donut shop has a standard dozen they'll sell you if you don't want to decide. Not that I'd expect man of the people JD Vance to know that.
Here, another interaction from someone who is so deeply flawed I wonder if he can even understand how pathetic he truly is. People are pretty good at being able to tell when someone is genuine, or of integrity. This guy has it in clovers (as in, not spades).
He's going to be so relieved when this is all over, and he can go back to simply being the weirdest person in local government, instead of being one of the most visible weirdos on the planet, with all of us catching strays from second hand cringe.
I don't think he can ever go back. Anyone who knows who he is will have the couch fucker stuff at least on the back of their mind, if not on the tip of their tongue. He might not even have a local politician career to return to, especially because Trump will likely scapegoat him if/when he loses.
So how long have you been in this thread, OP?
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Uhh, I don't work here sir, I just eat the donuts 😐
Okay. Yes.
And you, poster below my comment, how long have you been in this thread?
What an opportunity to hand him a couch shaped donut. And noone took it.
Man… I’d be DESPERATELY tempted to couch-troll him in their shoes lmao
Well, now he has my vote! /s
"So... How long have you been a couch?"
Anyone else unable to get the video to play?
haha, it played yesterday, maybe it was taken down :D But it's still on youtube at least
Okay.
I had to go to Twitter to get it to play. It's definitely awkward but maybe not a awkward as represented in the article. The employees are just trying to do their job and maybe put off by all the cameras.
Lawsuit?
No, they blurred her out in the video, and it's likely she didn't even know who he was and just has that as a blanket rule.
Blurred? She's not blurred on Twitter at all. Click the original Twitter post. Him saying they should edit her out and her being in the post anyway feels rather dizzying.
If she didn't know it was vance, it's likely she just immediately knew he was a creep with a fucked up haircut and weird energy.
Also, regular folks don't typically have "blanket rules" on their press interaction? Real "of the people" take yourself there, jd.