Netanyahu Says It’s Antisemitic For Israeli Soldiers To Describe Their Own Atrocities
Netanyahu Says It’s Antisemitic For Israeli Soldiers To Describe Their Own Atrocities
If it is antisemitic to simply describe what the soldiers are doing, then the actions themselves are antisemitic.
Exactly this! Very succinctly put!
Wow, the "that's antisemitic" saying really is an all encompassing get out of jail free card.
It's a masterkey unlocking all doors now
I feel so bad for any Jewish people who don't support this shit. There's gonna be multiple generations of actual antisemitism spawned by Israel's actions and the fact that the American deep state is obsessed with supporting them.
And will Likud have cried wolf enough that people start to disregard antisemitism entirely?
You, sir, are mentally deranged.
Probably more desperate than anything
Hey, Israel is so super ethical. They one try on women's lingerie because it keeps them from getting shot. They only starve children because those children will become terrorist. They only shoot people seeking aid or food because they're seeking aid or food. What would you do if someone wanted water? Not shoot them? Are you insane?!
This comment is sarcasm. Fuck Israel and the IDF.
IDF just checking out the stats msfw
No, you know what's anti-semitic? Defiling your ancestors by being a fucking genocidal Nazi.
It is actually impressive that the leader of Israel is the bad guy
When Israel was being founded in 1948 the UN sent a diplomat to help negotiate between the Palestinians and Israeli populations. He was a Swedish man who negotiated the release of over 30,000 prisoners from Nazi Germany in 1945. He was assassinated by Israeli Zionists.
Zionism is just weaponizing religion for the use by a government in my opinion. If that's how Zionists acted when they were formed, why should we expect different from Zionists there now.
The first pm of Israel was a genocidal terrorist. This is the status quo for states built on genocide.
Not at all. The genocide isn't new, it's built into the very fabric of modern Israel. https://www.theguardian.com/books/2001/may/31/londonreviewofbooks
I always find it weird when I remember that Netanyahu is just some dude from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
Always been.
It's just a common religious tactic. When they do bad things, they get angry at anyone who tried to call them out on it. Even if it's their own people, and they aren't doing it on purpose. Is the hate being supported by their religion? Yes? Then it's religious hate, and needs to be stopped.
Does it matter if it's one religion? Nope, they all do this shit. Radical christians, radical hindu, radical buddhists, etc... Call them out on their bullshit and hate, and you're the bigot. Well, fuck religion and the hate they all spew.
Well, fuck religion and the hate they all spew.
It's not really the religion though, basically all religions come with a set of believes in what is wrong and right and the hate-spewing war criminals will say it has to do with their religion, but they do not follow the believes set out by their religion. They are only using religion as a tool to gain power over the people that do follow the believes of that religion.
You're right, of course. The real problem, as you pointed out, is religious states.
See also: the way the US has become increasingly brazen about its atrocities as the Evangelicals have sunk their tentacles deeper and deeper into our political system.
On the other hand, there have been Jewish states before modern Israel, and it always ended in tears. Maybe believing that you're God's chosen people inevitably causes you to act with an arrogance and belief in your own invincibilty that eventually causes your country to be destroyed. If you believe God literally wants you to have a piece of dirt, why practice good diplomacy and have good relations with your neighbors? Your only concern is keeping God happy. In the Old Testament, the Israelites suffered invasion only when they somehow let God down. With that as your cultural foundation, what does that do to your nation's foreign policy?
Part of me really is starting to wonder if giving folks who think they're God's special chosen people was a terrible mistake.
“It’s not really the religion…”
Explains how it is, in fact, religion.
I'm not an expert in their religion but I doubt their religion says that committing genocide and all kinds of war crime atrocities is a good thing.
They’re Zionists, this is actually a core part of the end goals outlined in every Abrahamic religion, they are literally hoping to destroy all the non children of god and take over the world. We’re all just Canaanites to them if we’re not on their team.
I believe that in Judaism there is some traditions of interpretation which can justify the current situation. But it isn't a religion based on obedience as much as discussion so it isn't a matter of what is "said" as much as what is understood.
However much more relevant is the powerful and mainstream protestant Christian prophesies where the Rapture can be hastened by people taking certain steps, including having a jewish state in israel. (The jews, like most other people, will ultimately get horrifically exterminated during the Rapture, which is considered desirable to adherents.) Impatience for this Rapture is one of the reasons people and governments support Israel. American Christian groups provide way more funding and material support for Israel than jewish groups do.
Radical Buddhists
Now, I am not going to disagree here because I don't know a lot about it, but the only radical Buddhist I ever heard about was a dude who set himself on fire to protest the Vietnamese government oppressing Buddhists in the 60s and monks in China fighting against tyranical rulers that would have exterminated them. Have any radical Buddhists ever hurt others for not believing in their system of faith?
Look into the ongoing Rohingya genocide.
This kind of shit is a carbon copy of how the Nazis used claims of people being "against the Aryan race" to deflect criticism of the actions of the Nazis.
I think this is religion being weaponized to support the extreme depravity of an ethno-Fascist ideology, rather than an inherent drive in that religion.
In other words, the problem with Religions is not them having an inherent tendency for this kind of thing, is that they are extremely easy to capture and use to support even the most depraved behaviours, being capable of excusing actions well beyond what most other prepackaged belief systems are able to successfully excuse.
In summary, I don't think Religion is a driver of this kind of shit, I think it's an enabler.
Well I would argue Netanyahu is the head anti-semitist since by over using this word he has destroyed any weight that it carries. It now has effectively become a joke.
I think he’s antisemitic because he’s carrying atrocities against Semitic people. Arabs are Semitic people.
The real irony of all this is that the people being genocides right now in Gaza have a much closer genetic relationship to the actual human beings who wrote the Torah than those who are genociding them. We're watching the actual descendents of the ancient Israelites being exterminated right now.
Checkmate
Every day that word gets cheapened to the detriment of Jewish people everywhere.
Netanyahu says it's antisemitic
Learn a new trick, fuckface. This one doesn't work anymore. People are going to start responding to accusations like this with "so what?" because the word has been watered down to such a ridiculous degree that it is no longer meaningful.
And that's really dangerous because it provides cover for actual antisemitism against Jewish people.
Tbh, it used to be justified, and in some circumstances it still is justified.
Jews used to be the biggest "live-in" minority in Europe. So, a minority that lives in the same country and doesn't have a separate homeland. Kinda similar to black people in the USA. Contrary to regular migration, groups like that can't return home and they can't just assimilate.
If you look at regular migration, if someone's family has lived in the country for 4 generations, they aren't foreigners any more. Someone might say they have a Polish grandma, or they might say they are of Italian ancestry, but they aren't Polish or Italian themselves any more.
Jews, especially before WW2, couldn't do that. They were a discriminated against minority that was kept separate of the rest of society. A bit like black people in the USA after slavery was abolished.
So racism against them was a whole other order than the regular racism/xenophobia faced by other immigrants.
WW2 showed how bad that special kind of racism turned out to be, but WW2 wasn't an isolated event in time or location. Anti-Semitism had been rampant for centuries if not millennia before that, and it wasn't just localized to Germany. Just read up on e.g. Henry Ford, just to pick a random name from the bucket.
That said, things have shifted after WW2. Specifically antisemitic laws are pretty much gone in the western world, religion in general is not nearly as critically important as it was and there are now more than enough people of Jewish descent in the western world who don't identify as Jews or who aren't noticeable as Jews. And for a large part, society has accepted a special "protection" status for Jews to prevent a second Holocaust.
In consequence, the hate against Jews has mostly shifted into hate against Muslims, and many far-right/right-extremist people are now arguing that they can't be Nazis because they now don't hate Jews but instead hate Muslims. As if the problem with the Nazis wasn't genocide and suppression of minorities, but instead genocide and suppression of Jews specifically.
But yeah, Nazis will be Nazis, and they will argue in bad faith to justify themselves. Nothing new there.
Maybe don't commit hate crimes?
the existence of a specific term is due to pervasive and long standing existence of antisemitism in Europe.
It's all they have to hide behind.
It's so sinister. Latching on to the real history of blood libel to not only reinforce the idea that liberal media lies as a matter of routine, but to simultaneously use that reinforcement to build up the idea that liberals are either secretly antisemetic or too led around by the nose by propaganda to realize their antisemitism.
Of course it's deeply antisemitic for netanyahu to do this. It's also going to be extremely effective.
I think it actually trivializes the allegations made by the IDF solidiers because the substance of historical "blood libel" myths seem almost gentle by comparison of what is actually going on. Baking bread with the blood of the occasional child would hardly even be noticed among the on going horrific carnage.
All those liberals going along with the idea that it's possible to discriminate in a positive way only have themselves to blame when it turned out that their "positive" support of those they perceive as representatives of an ethnicity whom they (the liberals) view as "victims" as whole (i.e. all individuals of that ethnicity, rather than just the actual victims) was just racist prejudice and discrimination and stupidly easy to abuse to support ethnic cleansing (as long as those doing the murdering are from a "victim" race).
Support for any kind of ethnic-wide assumptions about people and different standards of judgement and actions towards them based on their ethnicity, is the very same kind of view of one's fellow human beings as the Nazis had, just with different "good" races and "bad" races.
People should be judged on and treated based on what they support and what they do, not the ethnicity they were born into.
The religions throw around antisemitism like it's a catch phrase. Don't forget 'islamophobia'.
It's all just stealth blasphemy laws. "Don't talk bad about our hate religion, or you're a bad person". That's what blasphemy laws are, and they're illegal for good reasons.
Why the fuck you're doing a pointing game with the word 'antisemetic' is beyond me. Sounds like the typical christian "they're not real christians, only I am!!!"
islamaphobia dint really stick with people, anti-semitic has been around and established for decades of documented atrocities. islamaphobia is a very new concept has to do with extremely prejuidicial white people.
As a wise man once said: Never get high on your own supply.
Why are none of these evil dictators just dying of a heart attack already?!? Let's gooo!
Because there is no god.
If there was a god, the "chosen people" wouldn't need an Iron Dome, just clasped hands, and they certainly wouldn't need hospitals paid on the American dime.
The loudest proponents of faith always need some kind of non-faith based material resource, strangely enough.
certainly no death note that's for sure
Or maybe there is one and it just really fucking hates us, but we'll likely never know.
But there's the CIA heart attack pistol from the 70s
they are like zionist version of oprah: you're anti-semetic, you;re antisemitc, everbody is anti-semitic.
They've been riding that "if you __________ you're antisemitic" horse really hard lately. If they keep over using it they're gonna eventually run out of sympathy and ruin it for the people are rather more in need of it to fight actual antisemitic bullshit, including themselves.
Someone needs to ask Netanyahu what he thinks antisemitic means
if he was forced to define it, it would probably be something like "anything or anyone that disagrees with Bibi being in power forever".
Holocaust admission AND Holocaust denial have now both been deemed antisemitic by the ethno-Fascist nation state that claims to represent all Jewish People.
What a cancerous sore.
He's really milking it...
Kinda reminds me of Stalin. That too was a man driven by hate.
I was getting a little more Khrushchev
Could very well be. Won't say i know better. Might even be a lot of both...
I think I get where you're going, but don't even go there. Nothing could ever justify any genocide; not the Holocaust, and not the Gaza one. The idea that anything could is frankly, grotesque.
I get what you're trying to say but let's not go down that path. Genocide isn't justified no matter the circumstances.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_antisemitism
Zionist antisemitism or antisemitic Zionism refers to a phenomenon in which antisemites express support for Zionism and the State of Israel. In some cases, this support may be promoted for explicitly antisemitic reasons. Historically, this type of antisemitism has been most notable among Christian Zionists, who may perpetrate religious antisemitism while being outspoken in their support for Jewish sovereignty in Israel due to their interpretation of Christian eschatology. Similarly, people who identify with the political far-right, particularly in Europe and the United States, may support the Zionist movement because they seek to expel Jews from their countries and see Zionism as the least complicated method (vis-à-vis ethnic cleansing or genocide) of achieving this goal and satisfying their racial antisemitism.
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The French-Jewish journalist Alain Gresh noted that the antisemitic right-wing politician and Nazi collaborator Xavier Vallat said that "Jews would never integrate into France and that they had to go to Israel.
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The historian David N. Myers wrote that "Leading white nationalists such as Richard Spencer and Jared Taylor liken their movement to Zionism, seeing it as a model for the kind of monoethnic purity they favor in [the United States]." Myers states that the "combination of pro-Israel and antisemitic sensibilities" is common within American politics due to the combined influences of the "Christian evangelical Right with its end-game theology", "archly conservative" Catholics, and the political ideology of Donald Trump.
If you generalize the stance away from Jews, "foreigners should go back to their home countries" is a very popular talking point for right-wing politicians, right-wing extremists and nazis.
So it's quite beyond me that anyone would be surprised that they apply the exact same argument to Jews as they use for pretty much every other minority that has a country that they can send them back to.
No. Collective punishment is a crime.
Only if you believe the racist idea that a nation, any nation, can represent everybody who is part of an ethnicity, i.e. and specifically in this case, that Mathematically the group "Jewish People" and the group "Israel and its supporters" are exactly the same group.
If however the group "Israel and it's supporters" is but a subset of the group "Jewish People", then the actions of the subset of the larger group do not justify punishing the wider group, same as, say, the actions of the Ku-Klux-Klan do not justify punishing everbody who is deemed White or the actions of ISIS do not justify punishing everybody who is Muslim.
I think the idea that the actions or victimization of some who are part of a broader group defined by nothing else than the ethnicity they were born into justifies a different treatment of everybody of the broader ethnic group, is THE most common racist trope there is, to the point that even liberals defend that shit (whilst, with zero irony or self awareness, calling it "positive").
I feel guilty for laughing.
You wouldn't know he was a gymnastics expert by looking at him.
I'm waiting for the day where he says reading the Torah is antisemitic.
Like many evangelicals have done with the depiction of Jesus in the Bible.
I really wish genociders would stop calling criticism of genocide "antisemitism". it just nullifies the impact of the word. also as I have said many times before, Palestinians are semites
He's such a shit stain towards Jews. He's devaluing the word which is dangerous given he's already done so much to make Jewish people unsafe around the world
The rise of anti-Semitism is for the most part due to his actions post October 6th.
Fuck him. My kids did not fear their half-Jewish heritage. Now they do. What is he doing for Jewish people again?
How long before we reach the "saying antisemitic is antisemitic" endgame?
at this point I wish I owned a crutch factory that produced outstanding crutches. I would make a killing selling them to Israelis.
And these fuck sticks are all surprised pikachu face that anti-semitism is on the rise world wide. Hell even here in Canada you have people spray painting Jewish schools, businesses, and what have you. The largest Jewish school here in Toronto has 24/7 police presence they even have a damn SWAT Truck parked outside the school. But as soon as a Pro Palestine protest happens in Toronto oh boy is the Jewish community quick to condemn it and then act surprised when people tell them to fuck off.
And yes I'm well aware that not all Jewish people support what Israel is doing but it gets drowned out by those that would love nothing more than to wipe the Palestine people off the face of the earth and claim their land.
And it's not like these people learned nothing from the Holocaust, oh no dear reader they learned plenty. They learned how to commit genocide and use those that were murdered in the Holocaust as props to proudly say "it's our turn now."
they are not shocked about antisemitism, antisemitism is the goal of Zionism because it gives them pretext to do what they want
War Crime Benji is concerned the truth casts shade on Israel ?
And he calls it anti semetic?
Maybe syphilis is affecting the language centers of his brain, because he seems to have no understanding of that word.
Can we make hoarding wealth anti semetic, too? Or bribery of politicians? No? Then let's stop throwing this shit around like it has the same meaning anymore. The calls are from inside the house.
"Zionism: you made your mum live inside the washing machine and she got dizzy from the spinning which made her vomit and you point at that vomit and call it antisemitism"
... from "Mum Does The Washing" by Joshua Idehen.
That shtick got old long ago already.
So does Destiny! They should hang out.
Antisemitic has lost all meaning when it just serves to perpetuate genocide.
I spilled my milk and was enraged by the anti-semitism.
They should publish a static list of all things anti-semitic because it seems confusing.
That's Bloodlust... They're ORCS!
His very existence is anti-Semitic. Hope he gets gaddafied eventually.
Alright, I spent a bit too long on this so I may as well post it somewhere.
Miles is Antisemitic
That is actually flat out antisemitic and racist
How long until he says it's antisemitic to vote against him
I've met Russian-speaking Israelis in TG, and even if he hasn't, they already think that.
What is TG?