Trump reveals executive order requiring Pam Bondi to prosecute ‘anti-Christian bias'

No freedom of religion without freedom FROM religion.
Resist a theocratic state.
- "The First Amendment clearly says "Congress shall make no law" and this is an executive order. Seems constitutional to us"
  Supreme Court (probably)
  
  Jesus fuck I hate how plausible this is.
  
  "I mean, there is no mention of the character of Jesus or their precious favorite book in the Constitution, and it's only the very First Amendment and all....and founders like Jefferson were QUITE CLEAR about their skepticism of xtianity's claims, but if you are True Originalists like we are, you'd understand how this is supposed to be a xtian nation!"
  Also SCOTUS
- No person ought, or of right can be compelled, to attend any religious worship, or erect, or support any place of worship, or maintain any minister, contrary to the dictates of his conscience.
  --Vermont Constitution, Article 3
  Wish we could have got that one in the national Constitution.
- You can order metal statues of Baphomet on Etsy. Mine helps me feel a little better when I read shitty stuff like this. He watches over me from the top of my bookshelf.

The Satanic Temple is going to be very busy. Maybe I should make a donation.
- Please do. Lol

DEI but just for Christians
- be explicit: white Christians
  
  White christian males with money.

And this is it. This is the step that makes the US a theocratic dictator.
This is the thing with religion: ANYTHING can be labelled as being against it. Muslims? Anti Christian bias. Atheists? Don't get me started. Gays? Obviously. Scientists? Doh! We do want the results from science, though, like computers, food, clean water, etc, but scientists are evil devil anti Christian.
I want nothing to do with the US anymore
- My dude you forgot women. Women are the prime target of all religion. They'll end no fault divorce, end marital rape, institute child marriage and call it all gods fucking plan to procreate. The right to vote will only belong to male heads of family.
  
  ... white male heads of family

There's a group of people that go around in white sheets with pointy hats and they burn crosses, often on other peoples property. That seems pretty anti-christian to me and should be the first to be investigated.
- Everything about the GOP as very anti-christian. Jesus was a bleeding heart socialist by today's standards. I'm not sure what books these fools have been reading that says otherwise.
  
  they don't read. their megachurch pastors tell them what the bible says about who to hate. they draw all their rhetoric from Leviticus and Numbers to justify their gross misinterpretation of Revelations. they ignore the gospels entirely. here are the things you need to know when dealing with christofascist propaganda
  the old testament comes from the living documents of the jewish faith maintaining the history of their ancestors and people. the jewish faith is largely an ongoing conversation about what it means to inherit this story and how to resist oppression by enacting boycotts, strikes, and maintaining the cultural heritage of foods. no one thinks everything in it is right and good except for some folks who worship orthodox hegemony beyond all else
  the teachings of jesus are primarily about how orthodox hegemony is bad and that the true value of ethics and morality is to help others and strengthen communities where you are
  the book of revelations is early christians' attempt to document the events of a genocide enacted by an authoritarian who co-opted the trappings of religion. it's a warning against the types of coagulation of power being enacted by donald trump literally right now. they are the followers of the antichrist they accuse woke folk of being. woke folk are who get raptured into the eternal song of historical memory by remaining true to the teachings that kindness and grace is more important than orthodoxy. the book is all florid and weird because the roman censors didn't recognize it for what it was, so it was able to survive.
  
  I am entirely serious when I say this:
  The latest meme/talking point working its way through all the newer, e-celeb type american christian pastors, the ones that are extreme but not quite as bonkers as the qanon, I-am-a-prophet types...
  The latest sermon topic is 'the sin of empathy'.
  https://youtube.com/watch?v=GFOMXXDlBTw

Anyone wanna get together, publicly, and burn a huge pile of Bibles?
- Whoawhoawhoa...have I been going to the wrong Communist Socialist Democrat America Hater meetings? We've been burning babies, not bibles. Looks like we goofed.
  
  As long as the babies have been baptized before they’re burned, Y’all Queda should be fine with it cuz you’re just express shipping them to heaven.
- Never have I felt the urge to do so, but yes.
- Sure, as long as we don't do crosses.
- you should definitely make this a thing

"To confront such weaponization and religious persecution, today I'm signing an executive order to make our Attorney General, who's a great person — she's going to be a great Attorney General — Pam Bondi the head of a task force, brand new, to eradicate anti-Christian bias," Trump said.
I feel like Trump’s quote here from the article is even worse than the headline suggests.
First is the use of the word eradicate rather than prosecute. It’s a much more dehumanizing tone, as if there a bunch of pests that need to be wiped out.
And second, which is no surprise but is even more worrying, is how much praise he put on Bondi there. That means loyalty to a person rather than to a nation or constitution.
- First time?
- The Christians who back this can suck my dick. Trump included even though he's far from a Christian. He's more like a Steve.

I have a family member who told me last year that they believe Christians are the most persecuted group in the USA, even more so than gay people.
In truth it was very challenging to stay calm in the face of someone saying something so blatantly biased and false. Packaged as an opinion, of course, but presented as the truth.
I asked questions and challenged some of the statements being made, but I know for a fact that the only thing I accomplished is that she's unlikely to make that particular statement in front of me again. No minds were changed that day. It's just sad.
As someone who actually IS persecuted in this country for things I cannot change about myself, I really don't get why someone would want to live under the delusion that they are being persecuted when they otherwise aren't. It's not fun and there's no benefit to being persecuted.
- And by that, they mean something like this? Xtians get all kinds of privileges and everyone else has to convert or be a second class citizen?
- They want to be David vs Goliath. Being the ones persecuted means that they can go on the offensive without feeling bad about it. It means whatever they do is justified as being a means of survival. It gives them an excuse.
  
  Exactly, the Bible is written for the underdog. Constantly referencing persecution for the faith, which is non-existent in the USA, so they try to redefine what they see as micro aggressions as full on persecution. They simply want to be angry, righteous anger for Christ.
- I have a family member who told me last year that they believe Christians are the most persecuted group in the USA, even more so than gay people.
  I asked questions and challenged some of the statements being made
  I imagine some of those questions included:
  How many christians in the USA were killed in the last 20 years only because they were christian?
  When was the last time a gathering of christians in a public library doing things unrelated to being christian forced to cease and desist?
  Is it common in society for a young adult living with parents to profess their love for christ and be thrown out of their homes and essentially abandoned by the family?
  Is there a history in this country to regularly arrest and prosecute christians for gathering or holding ceremonies like communion?
  edit: A couple more additions.
  Has marriage between two christians been illegal for nearly the entirety of the existence of the USA?
  Are there camps that some misguided parents send their children to to be "deprogrammed" from being christian?
- My very christian mom used to always tell me that I'm gay and athiest because it's popular, but that she believed I'm actually a closeted christian. In her opinion, I chose the way I am because christians are so persecuted in the US.. Nevermind that I'm autistic, highly introverted, and have never cared about popularity or pop culture in general. I've been out to my parents for over a decade and she's only recently started to come around on it because I have a fiance now, and she sees how happy he makes me. :)
  Christians are fucking wild with the BS they're willing to believe, so long as their pastor can make them chuckle and tear up a little bit inside of a 40 min speech.
- No minds were changed that day. It's just sad.
  No one's mentioning this, and it is important: you have to remember that these are challenges you make in public.
  If she refrains from making statements in front of you, and you are in front of children, you've just spared them some of her bullshit. You might have taught them a bit about resisting claims like hers on their own, too.
  Winning people over directly is great, but it's really hard to do, especially with today's conservative.
- The benefit is playing the victim and making up reasons to fight back against "the oppressors". It's a lot easier to say you will get rid of anti Christian stuff than saying you will go against every non Christians.
- In truth it was very challenging to stay calm in the face of someone saying something so blatantly biased and false.
  Collectively, we really need to quit doing that. Failing to call out hateful bullshit because of some weird adherence to 'civility' is part of what got us to this point in the first place.
- If you are a victim, then you can be righteously indignant and angry about it. They like the anger.
- It's because their religion claims that whoever has the worst life on Earth will have the best life in Heaven, so they're constantly seeking out ways to reaffirm that they have it "so hard".
  They associate the negativity of others towards them with godliness.

It is funny after years of fighting taliban the US now need to deal with neo-taliban at home.
- There’s a reason christofascists are often referred to as “Y’all Queda”.
- The takeaway can be Bin Laden won, the terrorists won.
  
  Freedom fighters.
- We've always been plagued with these people but now they have a tool like donvict.
- An entire voter base can't rabidly denounced [insert scary middle eastern religion] religious rule while salivating at a chance for Christian religious rule.
  It's been here all along.

the task force will work to fully prosecute anti-Christian violence and vandalism in our society
Yeah, Democrats did this already. They're called Hate Crimes and it's the law. Not a measley little EO.
- You don’t understand yet. The words are a cover for their real intentions which are to go after the enemies of Christianity under the guise of investigating hate crimes.
  
  Yes, nothing they say is what they really mean. Welcome to the last 40 or so years.
- No no but hate crimes are DEI bad word and also only happen to brown people, who deserve it!!!1!1!

Can we get a law in place that says if you have to sue the government to stop some obvious bullshit, that you recover your legal fees?
- Honstely you should recover 2x your legal fee's. That way you pay your lawyers, get something for yourself, and its extra punishment to the people getting sued for their bullshit.
- Laws only matter if the government wants them to matter.
  
  Sovereign Immunity is a fucker of a concept.
- And not from the government, but instead from the dipshit who decided to enact the policy
- Some places have anti-slapp lawsuits but only places with strong consumer protection.
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_lawsuit_against_public_participation
- Unless you're targeted, you won't have standing to sue 🙃

Jesus pretty much was a socialist so where does that leave us?
- He wasn't promoting statism.
  
  I mean, there’s zero evidence that he was even real.
  I’m saying if you read the Bible, Jesus’s teachings align with socialism.
  
  He kinda was, if you look at the satanic principles and how Jesus treated people. And beat the conmen out of the church because he knew violence was needed sometimes.

The courts will strike this down as fast as the birthright citizenship thing. Flagrant violation of the Estate Clause
- These aren't laws whatsoever, so they don't even need to strike anything down, just dismiss any attempt at actually doing something like this lol

Didn’t Elon Musk and Michael Flynn just post about how they will stop processing payments to a Lutheran organization?
Let’s start there.
- Those weren't Real Christians. They were followers of some fringe leftist ideology from the Middle East.
  
  I just got your post two days later. I am an idiot.
- In case anyone wants to see the post. It's not an organization that only liberal Lutherans supported either. LCMS (the larger conservative branch) supported this organization for years, too.
  
  I went to an LCMS church as a kid, it felt like one step down from Catholicism.
  For those who don’t know, there are two main branches of the Lutheran Church in the US.
  Lutheran Church Missouri Synod (known as LCMS)
  More Conservative views
  Doctrine first mentality, believes Bible is without error
  No Same Sex Marriage
  No ordained women
  Young Earth Creationism
  Traditional Worship
  Evangelical Lutheran Church of America (known as ELCA)
  More Liberal views
  Doesn’t believe scripture is 100% accurate , especially when it comes to history and science
  Does allow for same sex marriage
  Allows women and LGBT+ to be ordained
  Does not fully endorse creationism
  Contemporary Worship
  Also, I believe Tim Walz is a member of an ELCA church.

Good thing I'm not biased against Christians specifically. Fuck all religions equally - fair and balanced.

says the fucking antichrist

Hi Canadians!
Want to join our christofascist state where we jail those that don't believe in sky daddy?
- that don't believe in sky daddy the right way?
- No thanks, were good. We just got out.
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiet_Revolution?wprov=sfla1

Every time I read something he said it hurts my brain. Everything about his speech patterns is so fucking stupid.
- Dementia induced by syphilis
  
  Syphilitic in Chief

I mean he can sign it, it’s going literally nowhere. But if this ain’t proof that there’s a genuine desire to install a theocracy in the US, then I don’t know what will convince anyone.
The fact that a President even suggests this is a clear tell that some want the US being Iran but with Jesus.
- I mean he can sign it, it’s going literally nowhere.
  This is incorrect. He can sign it, and Bondi will start bringing these cases to court. One would think that it would immediately stop there as the first judge she argues in front of dismisses the case for being blatantly unconstitutional and having her brought up on sanctions for multiple blatant violations of the defendant's constitutional rights.
  But in this court system? I wouldn't be so sure. At the very least, I expect at least some people to get caught up in this dragnet and have their lives upended for years until the Supreme Court finally stops dragging their feet. But given this administration, this Supreme Court, and the number of MAGA judges that Trump can forum shop through, there is a non-zero chance this actually succeeds.
  It wouldn't be the first time this administration and SCOTUS hand-waves away constitutional protections.
  
  Keep in mind that they also broke into the Treasury system and own the paychecks of every federal employee. If that's not leverage, I don't know what is
- Yeah, a depressing amount of Americans believe this country was founded as a xtian one. 60%
  https://apnews.com/article/american-founders-christian-nation-conservative-beliefs-4ea388e8d80c54016a6a4460cbef9b82
  Six in 10 U.S. adults said the founders intended America to be a Christian nation, according to a 2022 Pew Research Center survey. About 45% said the U.S. should be a Christian nation. Four in five white evangelical Protestants agreed with each assertion.
  Which is just flat wrong, of course, and doesn't really need any debate: it just was not founded as a xtian nation, and that was quite intentional. But that's the level of stupidity we are dealing with.
  And something like 45% of the country WANT this country to be a xtian nation, which is also depressing.
  
  Half the founding fathers were closet atheists using 'Deism' as a fig leaf.

Jesus is pretty cool. You show me a christian who follows jesus' teachings, and I'll have mad respect. You give me some dipshit doing the most anti-christlike shit imaginable, but with crosses all around, and I'll make fun of him forever. Just a way of un-tarnishing the brand.
- I'm down for whipping church sanctioned conmen and maybe even cursing some figs.

How many EOs does this dickhead have now in these two weeks alone?
How many does a normal president have in a full four year term?

They're gearing up to roll out project 2025.
- They're not "gearing up;" it's steamrolling us as we speak.
- It ain't gonna be bloodless
- Most of the shit they've been putting out is Project 2025...

So we can still be anti christianity as long as our opinions are based on facts?
- They have no idea what "bias" actually means, they just intend to weaponize it to be whatever they want. Like they do with every other word.

And by "anti-xtian bias" he means, not properly privileging xtianity.
That's what these assholes complaining about xtian "persecution" ALWAYS mean. They hate to be ignored, too. Being told that their rules are FOR THEM and not anyone else in their book club, it absolutely infuriates them.
- Why do you use "xtian"
  
  X was used by early Christians in place of Christ. It is the first letter of Christ in Greek, and was used as a discreet way to indicate that someone is a Christian - back when Christians were ACTUALLY persecuted.
  
  Why say many words when few words work

As a reminder: The guy defending Christianity is a rapist and adulterer who set free 1500 criminals, including pedophiles and child rapists.
If Jesus was real, he would bitch slap Trump so hard it would take the paint off his face!

And the less specific he is in talking about things like this, the more this will be blatantly abused

Thats fine, I'm just as happy being fully "anti-religon" for equality.

How long until living an "anti-Christian" lifestyle is evidence of an anti-Christian bias?
- Oh, that's immediate. That's what they always mean by "anti-xtian bias" - not privileging their bullshit rules that their little book club has (and that has zero relevance in a secular nation like the United States).
  Telling them to go pound sand is incredibly hurtful to people that want to bring back witch trials.

Do they mean the woman he bribed to close an investigation of his scam university? That Pam Bondi?

This from the guy who wouldn’t even put his hand on the bible when being sworn in? I think the prosecutors have somewhere to start.
- Didn't he also hold one upside-down for that impromptu photo op way back in his first term? Further evidence of sacrilege!

Christian Nationalists wanted their Nazi uprising, they got it.

Awesome. They’ll prosecute liars, thieves and false idols. Finally some good news. Right?

Doesn't this still require specific existing laws (as in actual statutes) to charge someone with violating? Or can they just charge and convict on arbitrary things they don't like, now?
- The thing with Trump is, he doesn't care. He will do whatever he can until he's told he can't. So, until this gets challenged and makes its way through the courts, he will do it. So much of our system is built on "norms" that he can get away with doing things that seem like they shouldn't be allowed. Until democrats start doing the same, they'll keep losing for failing to do what the people want.

What happened to freedom of religion?
- The xtianists think freedom of religion means choosing from one of hundreds of various xtian sects. They think freedom FROM religion does not exist in Jesusland.
  They'll do to freedom FROM religion (which the first amendment requires) what they did to the right of privacy in Roe...
  
  Wait until they get a supermajority, then they'll correct that part of the constitution to better reflect that.

I'm atheist. GFY, you imbecilic mango monkey.

Fuck Pam Bondi and fuck fascist POS orange idiot! But above all fuck christians...all POS religions for that matter...religion poisons everything! Just imagine how much better off the world would be without the religious BS! What is brown nosing pam going to do with anti christian bias? Punish me for a hate crime? Thought crime? Fuck all religious ideology!

The same way my friend freaks out about "anti-Apple bias" when we ask questions like "but for the cost, is that a good pair of earbuds vs this other pair at lower cost?"

I think this is a good time to promote a blog and podcast that I like:
https://friendlyatheist.com/

It's about time. Those poor christians have always been marginalized in the USA, just like white men who own property. And billionaires. And the 1% in general. When will someone finally think of them?
If you can't read sarcasm in the above, you're too illiterate to be on the internet. Get off the internet.

Under his eye. You're all so fucked. Anyone not looking to leave that country is fooling themselves.
- It's not as simple as leaving the country. Not everyone has a passport here. And the vast majority of Americans cannot afford to up end their lives and skip town let alone move to another country entirely. Then it comes to which country to move to. Most countries have requirements for visa entry. If you intend on staying permanently, you have to meet even stricter requirements like higher education, and even then, they won't permit your visa if you aren't in a field that would do good for their country. Some places may have a program similar to America's H1B visa where you can get a job and work in that job to stay in the country but then your livelihood is at the mercy of a stranger in a foreign land letting you keep your job until you can convince the government to give you citizenship. You don't just move to another country. And anyone who can just move to another country is exceedingly privileged.
- I'm not leaving. I'm here til the bitter end.