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2 wk. ago

Fishy things about CEO shooting

losing track of a perp in fucking Manhattan
the other pic of the perp (with mask up) looks totally different, diff eyebrows, diff backpack, has coat hoodie up instead of sweater hoodie
dude was just casually outside of McDs in broad daylight while on the run (not innawoods? not moving in the evening?)
shooter is rich and his family owns a line of retirement homes
Brian Thompson is a new start, was never CEO of anything before 2021 (father was a grain elevator worker)
Brian Thompson is also excluded from the past Wikipedia pages of UnitedHealthCare, (apparently not important enough to mention?)
The only consistent CEO on said pages is Andrew Witty (still CEO now, and was CEO from 2021 along with Brian)
Andrew Witty also served as CEO of GlaxoSmithKline from 2008-2017, showing a decade of full experience
Witty was management trainee when he was 19yo, was appointed president of GSK europe in 2003 (at 39 yo), and advised Prime Minister David Cameron 2010-2015. A very experienced fellow!
UHC's profits were 17B in 2021 and 21B in 2022. Brian Thompson was getting a salary of only 10M per year from 2021-24. This seems like a pretty low profit:CEO wage ratio, but more analysis is necessary
there was some embezzlement thing where Brian defrauded 17M, Steven Hemsley (executive chariman) defrauded 102M, and Witty defrauded a few million. Brian was set to testify soon. Hemsley took home almost all of the money.
how did the shooter even know where to find Brian?

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No wonder Americans are conspiracy theorists, absolutely nothing can happen in that country without a mass of dodgy secretive weird shit just below the surface. Actually it often makes me less inclined to believe conspiracy theories because America is just like that, if you dig below you will inevitably find evil and corruption, doesn’t necessarily mean it’s connected in any grand plans
- if my mom dies of coverage denial from an insurance company, do I play minecraft with the networth $50M petit-CEO or wait 2 hours for the meeting to be over and roblox the networth $800M executive chairman?
- Learning about Bohemian Grove broke my brain.
  "What, you think all the important people in the country meet up in some secluded spot to do shady shit and plan more shady shit?"
  "Yeah, they literally do that. Once a year. They actually unironically meet up and do weird satanic stuff for several days in a secluded spot that allows no trespassers. They physically convene and conspire once a year and the event they do it is also an event with a bunch of odd rituals tied to it."
  
  I know all lodges do weird pagan stuff and it's all just for fun. I don't freak out about that stuff really, it's just that it's so on the nose. They do actually do the thing. I'm convinced Alex Jones is part of a psyop that has been going on for decades, meant to make actual conspiracy theories sound insane. "Oh you think JFK didn't get shot by Oswald? What's next, the moon landing is fake? The earth is flat?"
  
  Isn't that mostly a Alex Jones bit? Specifically the satanic part. Worshipping mohloc or whatever. He coined that back in the 2000s. The do meet there, but its all theater kid shit. These people meet everywhere. They don't need to go to the Grove to do it.
  
  Yeah the fact that elite underground pedo churches might exist is disconcerting. I guess the question is are they sitting around planning 911 or are they just like ‘next week would be a great time to sell those stocks’. Who knows…
- It only takes 2 or more persons deciding to do something in secret to have a conspiracy. No need for 'grand plans' or a round table with old men in cloaks. Yes people like to see them when they're not there but you can be sure a lot of conspiracies happen and are called 'conspiracy theories' when found out to discredit/ad hominem attack anyone that brings it up.
altoona cops following up on a boomer's report that a guy's eyebrows look like murderman's eyebrows makes no sense at all
- I just saw a side by side eye brow pic
  
  I don't have a unibrow. But can that really fill in that much in 5 days? Like regular gape to maybe a 1/2 inch apart on 5 days?
  
  But can that really fill in that much in 5 days? Like regular gape to maybe a 1/2 inch apart on 5 days?
  
  no and even if it did, a razor blade is 2 cents
- IRL
- makes me wonder how much police time was spent responding to boomers doing this type of shit.
  
  yeah it could well be that there were 10,000 boomer snitch reports of a guy with the right eyebrows and this is the only one that was followed up
i think you're conflating united healthcare and united health group. witty is the ceo of united health group, which owns united healthcare. witty was thompson's boss throughout.
It also begs the question of why Brian specifically? Why not Witty too? Why not wait till the meeting was over and roblox a whole fucking cabal of CEOs?

uhhh that'd be way too risky, dude

if that's too risky, why did he pull his mask down to flirt with a woman mid-crime lol
- why did he pull his mask down to flirt with a woman mid-crime lol
  
  he’s Italian
  
  in that case why not wait to merk 10 other healthcare executives as they exit the building
  
  I don't think Italians are still confined to their primitive 2000 year old numeral system
- Might it be the case that the massively positive social media reception made him decide to take credit for it and try his luck with convincing one juror out of twelve to nullify?
  
  edit: oops i replied to the wrong comment
- He pulled down his mask to show the hostel employee his face when he first checked in. It was days before the shooting.
What throws me is the eyebrows look totally different. And like his facial structure looks similar but not the same? But who knows maybe they’re just weird camera angles. I’m also kind of stupid, so who knows.
- What throws me is that he managed to successfully get away, but then decided not to change clothes or ditch the evidence. The authorities clearly didn't know who he was, he should've been easily able to disappear back into society, but instead he decides to wander around in public dressed as the assassin. Maybe he wanted to get caught, but then why run in the first place? Alternatively, the feds have some secret tech for identifying people and the McDonalds snitch thing is just a cover?
  
  What throws me is that he managed to successfully get away, but then decided not to change clothes or ditch the evidence. The authorities clearly didn't know who he was, he should've been easily able to disappear back into society, but instead he decides to wander around in public dressed as the assassin. Maybe he wanted to get caught, but then why run in the first place?
  
  I don't find this part to be much of a mystery at all. What is he going to do, go back to his 9 to 5 and live like nothing has happened, having murdered some asshole in cold blood, but that having changed literally nothing in the world? Like that's not something a normal person wants to do. Fairly high likelihood he just planned things out without much of a hope of it ever actually going as well as it did, and when it went better than he expected he just didn't have much more of a plan.
  
  Maybe he wanted to get caught, but then why run in the first place?
  
  Really seems like the only explanation
- why is there no calipers emoji smdh
  
  it has been submitted a bunch of times, but so far has not made it
  
  here's one of them that you can bookmark and use
  
  Many are asking this
- We need to see Luigi smile and flirt a bit before we can really know anything for sure
  
  Sorry but this is hard cope. In 90% of his pics his brows are plucked. Y'all are grasping to the one where they aren't.
  
  Not saying its him, but this is not the evidence you think it is.
UHC's profits were 17B in 2021 and 21B in 2022. Brian Thompson was getting a salary of only 10M per year from 2021-24. This seems like a pretty low profit:CEO wage ratio, but more analysis is necessary

I wont bother checking right now but you can look at his SEC fillings for what he was doing with his shares if anything. Executives are mostly paid in shares and bonuses not just a salary. In fact this is exactly the point why sometimes social and economic inequality measurements can skew towards liberal apologia since salary very obviously doesn't equal wealth so capitalist societies can have lower wage inequality but higher wealth inequality where most of the money is made through financial instruments not wages.
Brian Thompson is a new start, was never CEO of anything before 2021 (father was a grain elevator worker)

I thought he was already CEO of UHC when he got that drunk driving conviction in 2019

also, do you not consider failing to ditch or destroy the gun and IDs fishy?
- Brian became CEO in 2021, along with Witty.
  
  Yes I consider all of that fishy, the shooter acted like he wanted to be caught (and yet the NYPD floundered, either through ineptness or something shady)
- failing to ditch or destroy the gun
  
  The gun he was arrested with wasn't the one he used
  
  Is that confirmed? Source please!
- Luigi was an actor along
  
  He was a , so possibly even a Crysis actor
I fully accept the reality that truth is often stranger than fiction and a lot of these incongruities might just be the chaos and incoherence of the real world where not everything is so cleanly defined or rationally thought out.

But seriously....I want to know how we got to here and what the mindset was. Why didn't he dispose of the gun? Why the "manifesto" that based on details that are coming out basically reads like a handwritten confession? According to CNN he was found with 8k in cash on him and Mangione made the claim, in court, that it was planted. Now of course he could totally be lying but still...what the fuck? The best explanation I have, right now, is that he was wavering between wanting to ride off into the sunset or step up and fully martyr himself...but all of it is so inconsistent. I don't know what to make of it.
there was some embezzlement thing where Brian defrauded 17M, Steven Hemsley (executive chariman) defrauded 102M, and Witty defrauded a few million. Brian was set to testify soon. Hemsley took home almost all of the money.

Oh fuck this was a shadowrun
- unlikely, everything went way too smoothly.
  
  if this was a shadowrun there would've been a shootout and someone slingshotting a car to the penthouse level
  
  its a shadowrun plot hook
there was some embezzlement thing where Brian defrauded 17M, Steven Hemsley (executive chariman) defrauded 102M, and Witty defrauded a few million. Brian was set to testify soon. Hemsley took home almost all of the money.

I've been enjoying concocting farcical conspiracy scenarios in my mind since Luigi was collared. It's not so hard to imagine that he could've fallen down the gladio well. Easy to set him up as a patsy. But that also seems like an enormously risky move that, if you assume the powers that be don't know who the real shooter is, leaves them open to embarrassment. And if they do know who the real shooter is why bother creating a fake one? Seems like a lot of work, that could still backfire on them, when it all would've been forgotten about in a few weeks anyway. And the official line is believable. Promising kid from a rich family runs afoul of the health insurance industry, realizes his life will never be the same again, and decides to kill a guy for it. Escapes one of the most surveilled cities in the world as a result of police incompetence and some good planning on his part. Gets caught because a cop lives in the mind of every American over the age of 45.

Anyway, I assume that Luigi is the guy, partly out of "nothing ever happens" brain and partly out of fear that a sophisticated gladio network could really exist, has existed other places in ways that are provable, but I want to believe it's all paranoid delusion, that the State couldn't really be that powerful, because that's too frightening to contemplate. There's that line you see skeptics trot out all the time with regard to conspiracy adjacent stuff, that conspiracy theorists are just looking to believe in something bigger than themselves that has control, because the random and chaotic nature of life can be too hard to take. I hope that's true of all the gladio shit.

This insider trading case does give me pause, though. Suddenly, with that much money on the line, shit that I would normally think is impossible doesn't sound that farfetched.
- Everyone at that level is insider trading, it's less surprising than finding out he had an affair.

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