If outing conservatives for their projection materially changes anything, it will be a first. That said, I fully support this endeavor.
The Roy Cohns of the world deserve to get exposed, IMHO.
"Straight"
Still relevant onion
https://theonion.com/why-do-all-these-homosexuals-keep-sucking-my-cock-1819583529/
That'll be $9,999
Hey $20 is $20
Conservative forums are talking about rounding up immigrants, letting women die in clinics and stripping people of their rights and dismantling Democracy.
Here on the "left" lemmy, we're arguing whether calling out hypocrites is a step too far we've got to be respectful after all!
This is why the left sucks as organising and actually voting for change in unison. A simple thing as outing assholes starts a 10h discussion, meanwhile on the right they are building cages....
Oh I'm sorry, not cages, enclosures without exists, we don't want to offend people identifying as cages!
"If a society extends tolerance to those who are intolerant, it risks enabling the eventual dominance of intolerance, thereby undermining the very principle of tolerance"
So yeah, call these intolerant hypocritical assholes out!
This is why the left sucks as organising and actually voting for change in unison. A simple thing as outing assholes starts a 10h discussion, meanwhile on the right they are building cages…
"The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts and the stupid ones are full of confidence."
— Charles Bukowski
Oh I’m sorry, not cages, enclosures without exists, we don’t want to offend people identifying as cages!
This made me think of this 20s clip from Thor: Ragnarok.
Sounds like Ole Chuck was paraphrasing possibly my favorite poem which is also totally appropriate for our times. That is "The Second Coming".
I'm not gay, but the idea of outing ANYONE in the LGBTQIA+ community has long been a cardinal sin, enough so that it destroys careers and forces them to be almost globally shunned. I would imagine that for many there is a deep-set conflict between outing someone that has wronged them, and not outing someone that would likely want to be accepted elsewhere where they don't need to pretend to be something they aren't.
The problem with outing someone is that it risks subjecting them to discrimination and bigotry by homophobic assholes. Shunning it as a cardinal sin is a defense mechanism to protect each other.
If right-wing bigots hide behind those protections, while being part of the problem that necessitates them in the first place, they deserve no protections.
Just do what I do.
Step one be bicurious
Step two enable "everyone" as love interests on your dating apps
Step 3 match with cops, servicemen and tons of Latin men ( Latin men like me idk why)
Step 4 get my hole wrecked by said matches due to bi curious
Step 5.... profit???? Idk i can't really move cuz wrecked hole
The scariest part of this movement for me is being targeted because somebody thought I was conservative. *shudder*
I've been getting this for the last few years because I look conservative. Sigh. Seems like it will soon get worse.
I'm 6'3, 300 pounds, built like a linebacker. Shaved head. There aren't a lot of clothes that look good on me and actually fit (finding a shirt long enough is hell). I tend to wear jeans and wife beater with an unbuttoned collared shirt in the summer, and flannel in the winter. I also tend to wear the shoes the podiatrist gives me (for now. So long medical insurance after 2025).
I have 100 percent been confused for a skin head on numerous occasions. If I'm leaving Walmart after dark, women will rush to their cars if I have to pass close by. I don't blame them. It sucks, but I'm glad they're acting on their safety over my feelings. But it does still hurt my feelings. :/
Kenneth jumpscare
If a closeted person is passing laws, making policy, or using their platform to the LGBTQIA+ community, then outing is self-defense.
i've never been comfortable with the usage of the term "outing gay men" in this specific fairly negative context.
their fallacy isn't being gay -- that by itself is nothing wrong and should never be associated with a public shaming exercise.
no, the problem in this scenario is their hypocrisy in denigrating other gay men for their activities while indulging in those activities themselves.
this whole series of events should be called "exposing the hypocrisy of loud-mouths" instead of "outing gay men".
It’s not outing gay men, it’s outing gay conservatives, which already has the loud mouth hypocrite angle covered.
People are turning on each other. Like those saying Latinos should out each other to be deported. Nothing but more examples of how divisive the Trump regime is. I suppose I don't have to look up how this kind of thing has happened before in times of fascism. I'll bet it's gotta be true.
Fucking for democracy. Now that’s the kind of civil war I can get behind.
Oh, no. Do NOT fuck them.
Well, since 4B is trending, someone has to do it 😅
Make love, not war?
Fight for love!
Careful now. Outing people against their will is how you get Peter Thiel.
He was already a piece of shit before he was outed.
True, but I don't think he was "weaponize Hulk Hogan" level.
I can assure you that Mr. Thiel has always been a horrible person.
TIL Thiel is gay. Yay for representation?
Thank you for your service, gay men. o7
One of us has a wrong definition of the word straight. Gay to for that matter
It's all a spectrum.
Won't it kind of lose it's effectiveness if some start doing it falsely? After a while it'll just be slander, unless there's something like conclusive proof in this highly faked environment.
Yes.
It'd just be another accusation.
This has always kind of confused me. I remember back a few years ago on Reddit seeing posts about The kind of stuff that would be on craigslist and a lot of it was straight white men saying they are straight but asking for head or oral sex, and it really made me scratch my head. Like, how can you be completely straight but you want to have sex with someone else of the same gender? It was baffling honestly
Straight, in this situation, is code for too conservative to admit to having sex with men.
I'll never understand why people use conservatives for anything but pump and dumps.
The Dicks - Saturday Night at the Bookstore
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ux5Ma9BzRA
Edit: shit I didn't know Gary died
I hate trumpers and all, but this is gonna lead to suicides and is essentially just outing gay people to cause them harm, even bodily harm. I was raised to think that was wrong, but I guess if it's done by you it's ok?
Ah yes, but republican gay people. So only gay people who support things like Project 2025, which basically wants to eradicate the entire concept of homosexuality.
As far as I understood it at least
Sucks that being anything other than straight is a health risk for large segments of the population.
That being said, enabling or fostering that same risk isn’t in their best interest. If they’re unable to be the change they want to see in the world, then who do they expect to stand up for them?
I don't think there is any valid excuse to force somebody to "come out of the closet" against their will, even hypocrisy. It's their choice to come out, not anybody else's.
I would expect that gay men, given the massive prosecution that they've been subject to in the past (and still are in many countries nowadays), would share that feeling, but maybe it's because I'm from a generation that grew up at a time when homophobia was absolutely normal and later lived in places which weren't like that at all were I've met gay men who had left their own countries in order to be able to be with the people they loved, and were I figured out just how unfair and casually nasty I had been in the years before.
Doing this kind of thing thinking you're holding a high moral ground because the other person is in some way immoral is exactly the kind of thinking extreme religious types have when they go after, amongst others, homosexuals.
As much as I dislike conservatives, I dislike even more doing this shit to somebody and the kind of person who would do so.
Fuck that. People have a right to know if the people that make being gay illegal are also then criminals themselves.
If a bloke supports stripping of my rights, why would I respect his? Let him see what it's like. May be he'll learn a lesson, or at least be an example for others.
Alternate take: Don't vote for hate and ask for love.
yeah, fuck that. if you're spewing hatred and trying to control women directly or indirectly, you get what you fucking deserve. you couldnt leave people alone to live their lives without forcing your way in, so fuck you, open that closet door and expose them for their hypocrisy and bigotry.
them being gay isn't the problem, they could have chosen happiness also and treated people the way they wanted to be treated, but injecting your hatred to a topic that you yourself are in? some single digit IQ moves.
In the world of ten years ago I would have agreed with you. In today's world those closeted homophobes are calling for the extermination of other lgbt people, so calling out their hypocrisy is the only right thing to do.
And if they get swept up in the current of hate and murder they are calling for, then they 100% deserve their fate.
I don't think that outing people is a good idea though. It's fine to point out that they're being hypocritical, or refuse them for their views, but outing them seems a step too far, especially if it's retaliatory.
Their being in the closet oughtn't be conditional.
The inverse wouldn't be acceptable, why would this?
The reverse in this situation would be a closeted queer person outing someone for being...NOT shitty and detrimental to other people?
Nah, don't out people who aren't shitty. But if you're an active republican, ESPECIALLY if you're a political configure, and you trash the gay community you belong to? Fuck em. They aren't under the umbrella of protection the moment they try to push people out from under it.
