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Hogwarts Legacy players frustrated as Starfield and Baldur’s Gate 3 outshine Harry Potter game - Dexerto | Ghostarchive

Whiny nerds who haven't read a new book in over two decades shed tears over the fact their boring-ass game sucks and is getting swirlied in the toilet bowl by actual cool games

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- im hesitant to call Starfield actually "cool" yet.
  I've been tearing into it a lot, but it is genuinely the best thing Bethesda's put out in the past 20 years. It's still tepid Bethesda mush but the writing quality has varied wildly. The quest I posted about yesterday was just awful, but I did a questline today that entailed hunting down every member of a fascist militia and ultimately led to being able to just summarily execute a CEO for his crimes (but mostly for resisting arrest, because he was very dumb too).
  
  hunting down every member of a fascist militia
  I get to kill Vanguard???
  
  Yeah that's a good one. The crimson fleet stuff rules too. I want to make a mod that adds more communism flavor to the crimson fleet (or takes out all the individualist bs from freestar collective). Pirates are cool but building communism in space capitalism is way cooler
- If you tell me I have to play either Harry Potter games or No man skies but Bethesda, I'd choose the latter in a heartbeat.
- BG3 is legitimately one of the best games I've ever played. They have to iron out the bugs still, frankly, but it was a pure blast to play through the game. One of the most impressive games I think I've ever seen, narratively, because of the sheer amount of choices with actual consequence there are in the game.
- I'm waiting on the mods. That's what makes most Bethesda games good, lol.
- It gets much better, but its a really shit first 15-20 levels. The game wants you to play it in a specific way and my god it's going to hurt you with boredom until you do.
isn't it just like a once-and-done single player game? of course other newer games are gonna overtake it
- By, like, C-list devs iirc. Not exactly AAA title material, even with the IP.
  
  How you gonna diss the Hannah Montana: Spotlight World Tour devs that way?
  
  Not even c-list, that's too generous. They were a half-step above shovelware devs. Everything they ever released was kids movie tie-in garbage.
- If I wanted to play a good shitty wizard game I'd re-install Magicka
Remember all the streamers throwing a fit about how they had to play it even if it meant shoveling more money at a transphobe because it was the biggest game of the year (in February lol)
- pizza tower dev is iffy af tho from what i hear
  
  I might need to make an antistreamer aktion emoji
  
  pizza tower is too expensive
BG3 is unmatchable, not only for hogwarts legacy but for every other game.
Starfield on the other end.. is the same oblivion stuff but in 2023 and without 2023 capabilities
- from what i head the systems are worse than a bunch of their own previous work let alone contemporary products. maybe someday i'll play more than 10 minutes and find out for myself ¯(ツ)_/¯
  
  I was a fan of both DOS 1 and 2 and I’m finding the systems in BG3 much more fun. I like the action economy of 5e much more than the pips of their earlier games.
- Pretty much. Bet if they re-released oblivion, prior to BG3, it'd still roflstomp horkboris legacy
- and without 2023 capabilities
  They've gotta rewrite the engine from the ground up if they want to bring it up to modern standards. There are fundamental problems with it at its core that can't be resolved without a rewrite that addresses limiting decisions that were made with its overall design a very very long time ago.
  
  Gamebryo really needs to be thrown in the trash. It's just absurd that they're still using it. They don't even have to, can't they use the Idtech engines?
  
  You are right, they should rewrite the engine, but they didn't and they preferred enforce the development on the re-re-re-re-re release of titles like skyrim for every possible platform on the plant.
  Look at what Larian did instead.. Took 6 years, added beta access and listened to the players. BG3 is far from being bug-free or "perfect" but they released a game that give almost total freedom on how you can play it, and doesn't feel like you are on rails every time.
  The problem is bethesda and others "AAA" software houses for years just did the lazy job and now that a software house showed what 6 years of real development should look like everyone is doing the Pikachu face and crying because "We don't want BG3 to set a new standard". The issue is us, the players, that keep buying shit for too much money.
I'm waiting for the modding community to overhaul Starfield in 1 - 3 years before I'll even touch it.
BG3 is a blast and I can't get enough. It's the first game I've played that's felt like I'm a part of a fantasy novel. IMO it's because unlike a lot of other CRPG's it's really good about pacing out it's lore and not info dumping all over the player.
- I'm waiting for the modding community to overhaul Starfield in 1 - 3 years before I'll even touch it.
  I'll still hold some interest on the next TES game exactly because of this.
  But for starfield based on the reviews I've seen the issues are pretty much fundamental to the game as designed, e.g exploration limitations doesn't seem like something that can be easily modded so I'm not holding any hopes that mods will fix this.
I remember around the time of the HP game release chuds were rallying around it to own the libs or whatever.
I'm glad that the HP game is going to be forgotten in favor of two games that let you choose pronouns, one of which lets you choose a penis or vulva.
Even before release, Hogwarts Legacy looked like an extremely by the numbers TrIpLe A game by some developers who'd never made anything good. It was totally carried by the license and being released at a quiet time for big bideo bames, no wonder even the biggest Rowling fart hufflepuffers don't care about it anymore
If it's any consolation to the HP libs, your game got an all-time concurrent player peak of 879,308 while BG3 only got 875,343. But also the games this year are stacked and Harry Potter sucks, so get owned.
- You just reminded me that I need to hop back on BG3.
  
  Still on my first playthrough and I want to do several more eventually. 😭
- 879,308
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It's wild to get angry over pronouns in SF materials, in particular. If I'm reading some spacefarring material and there isn't at least one alien race or human being bucking a gender binary, I'll be dissapointed as hell.
- Especially since aliens have little reason to follow human ideas of gender and sex
Why would one get mad that some people enjoy another game more than they enjoy the game one enjoys more than the game they enjoy more?
- I asked myself the same thing. If you enjoy your slop, what do you care about what the other piggies eat?
  
  Because you want to feel validated that your slop is especially good
I would simply not attach my personality into triple A by the numbers garbage made from the IP of Terf-Queen.
- bg3 boring? did we play the same game lol
  
  There are people who just equate anything turn based with boredom. I'm not one of them, but they exist.
- I think it's more that the transitions are jarring. If they'd made jumps and inter planetary transitions first person cutscene loads like a lot of space games like freelancer, there'd be less complaining. And occasionally they are that and they decided not to make it the only way.
  Anyway script extender is now out, so open cities and better transitions are likely a monthbor two away.
Why would anyone give a shit if one game is more.popular than another? Just play what.you like, God.

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