Once the honeymoon ends on Harris and the vibes die down around girlbossing people are going to be left with a means-testing cop who's more than happy to continue bombing Gaza.
Do dummies actually think she's more "radical" than Biden? Maybe if we beg madam hard enough she'll give us healthcare!
Her VP staff had an enormous turnover rate because she was such a horrible manager.
Former staffers said she never prepared for meetings. She resonates with vibes based people so much she operates off them instead of the briefings prepared for her, allegedly.
had to go re-read that article for fun
Staffers who worked for Harris before she was vice president said one consistent problem was that Harris would refuse to wade into briefing materials prepared by staff members, then berate employees when she appeared unprepared.
“It’s clear that you’re not working with somebody who is willing to do the prep and the work,” one former staffer said. “With Kamala you have to put up with a constant amount of soul-destroying criticism and also her own lack of confidence. So you’re constantly sort of propping up a bully and it’s not really clear why.”
lol. lmao
She's presently a blank canvas that libs can project all of their own wants and desires on.
Funny enough the chuds pulled the same shit with Trump, still do to some extent too.
That was the cleverness of MAGA, say we’re going to make America great again, but avoid specifics about when it was last great or what made it great at that time. Let the piggies fill in the gaps for themselves.
She's not a blank canvas though. She has a record, she has positions - and more importantly we know the positions she abandoned when she ran for president in 2020. That makes radlibs thinking she's going to be any different than Biden is silly
An empty pantsuit, if you will.
They only need to gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss the public for three more months. I could see them just riding the wave of letting people project their ideals onto her.
Of course that means it’s her election to lose, just like Hillary. So I’m trying not to underestimate her ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
This feels like a repeat of 2016, and back then I genuinely thought that Hillary was going to win.
All the polls pointed to Hillary winning and then she just lost.
It's going to repeat again for kamala
1000%
It feels like it but theres a difference. Unlike 2016, not only is there no alternative. But there was and we go it. Genocide Joe was pushed out. "If you arent in the K-hive now then what were you complaining about. You were just complaining for its own sake"
There were warning signs about the polls in 2016. The only thing that got mentioned was the national polls. The HRC friendly media downplayed it though. People have learned their lessons and analysis is more nuanced these days.
The hard part of polling in 2024 is not ignoring swing states but in figuring out who is going to turn out to vote and who isnt.
Walz is the cream of mushroom soup holding together the hot dish that is the Democratic party
Man, so if she wins we watch all the libs deride the left to 'give her time to change policy direction' from brunch her entire first term... or if Trump wins we get to watch them rediscover all the Biden policies they forgot they hated and have em blame the left for not turning out to fix them...hmm I can't decide which libererun i'd rather see.
If she wins we'll be told they didn't need us anyway.
If she loses it'll be because of us.
Well actually Trump is going to do genocide+ so you commies are the ones really responsible for supporting genocide.
This take was posted seriously yesterday on .ml
Liberals after Trump wins will do Genocide Plus Pro Max
Its infuriating seeing people who should know better act like she's anything other than what we already know she is! Harris isn't an unknown quantity. We already know she is like every other neoliberal that ran in 2020, except she was even worse at running a campaign than any of them but Beto lol.
She's a complete ghoul and radlibs are pretending she might not do genocide because...? Vibes?
The year is 2032, at the end of the second Harris/Walz administration.
A new Hexbear user made a post:
“Thank goodness I found this site! I feel like I have been losing my mind with everyone telling me that Tim Walz has been the face of Progressive Democrats since 2016!
I swear it was Bernie Sanders who mounted a primary opposition against Hillary in 2016, not Walz. People keep telling me it’s the Mandela effect, somehow I misremembered. But I distinctly remember donating to Bernie’s and AOC’s campaigns back then. But now even President-elect AOC, whom I remember came out of the Bernie movement, is telling us that Tim Walz was the one who inspired her to start a political career to fight for the people.
Am I losing my mind here?!! This is the only site that still talks about Bernie, everywhere else I go I feel like I’m being gaslit.
I swear that Tim Walz is the Bernie skinwalker! We have to rise up, Bernie truthers! We have to fight back the misinformation of the mainstream media propaganda! Kamala and Tim, WHERE IS BERNIE??”
something about the sheer force of the hopium makes me think she's going to explode into a fireball in the general. this is going way too smoothly for the democrats not to find a way to fuck it up.
Only people on this site would get me when I say I’m utterly baffled how I’m watching the exact same force that “organically” coalesced to endorse Biden in 2020 when
was about to run away with it. Not like he would’ve done anything, but think about how much of a threat a negligible tax increase posed.Absolutely terrifying how organized the bourgeois are. How do people not recognize that they’re just as subservient to US capital as the people of the CPP are to socialist characteristics
How do people not recognize that they’re just as subservient to US capital as the people of the CPP are to socialist characteristics
They recognize it just fine. They simply do not care. Remember a lot of Americans think of themselves as "temporarily embarrassed billionaires." Or their adherence to the white, cisshit, male power structure means they will gladly stamp out anything that threatens that power.
Despite the obviousness of the DNC rallying around Biden during the primary, they still got more people to vote along the party line. They still had to get the majority of votes for Biden and that's exactly what happened because so-called liberals want to uphold American hegemony more than they want healthcare or education.
They don’t care about Gaza. They don’t care whether or not she’s radical. They just say she is to piss you off. At the end of the day, Harris is in her white house. All is right with the world.
It seems like the media blob has decided to remove the mandate of heaven from Trump and give it to Harris. She has managed to stay untainted by Genocide Joe's regime and now she has the advantage of being seen as a blank slate that people can project whatever they want on.
If he campaign is smart and let her say as little as possible, she can probably keep the show going long enough to win.
Once in office things will be different as nothing will fundamentally change and the decay will continue, paving the way for whatever the next iteration of American fascism is going to look like.
I think it was on Trueanon they said that lots and lots of libs are desperate to return to the good old days of not having to care about politics and that Kamala is good enough for them to be able to do so.
Well “pressure her”!! How? By saying we’ll still vote for her even after acknowledging she supports genocide!!
Them: We can push her to the left!
Me: Like the genocide protestors?
Them: No!
But don't actually pressure her, that's bad politics. Good politics is when you vote for the democrats and if you vote hard enough you get to hope they do something you want. I am a leftist just like you, which is why I spend all my time telling people that they should unconditionally support the democrats and also nothing good is possible so don't even work towards achieving anything, just sit down and shut the fuck up and vote for the democrats uhhh comrade... It's what Marx would have wanted, which I know because I am a leftist just like you.
Also you're not a leftist, you're a red fash tankie idealist naive bro
We can pull her left
We did it with Biden and it worked!
It could very well be another Obama where people find excuses to handwave the disappointment. At the same time, Kamala is a charisma sink compared to Obama.
That’s a good point. It’s one thing to post on social media or donate from home. It’s another to actually go out and vote.
Obama was a conman huckster who got in when people still believed in the empire, Kamala is giggling like a maniac in half her public appearances, I don't think she can gas up a crowd like prime Barry. She might still win, but I still think we're gonna see a repeat of '16 where people are surprised that Trumps small but fanatical and motivated base actually matters more than posting vines of chilling in cedar rapids
I've had a lot of people in my life ask what I thought about Harris. I think people want to feel optimistic, and the idea that a person "from" a marginalized group could be in power provides that hope. Yes I know idpol. But most don't.
All we can do is the same we can always do: be informed, and patient with people. Ask probing questions to get people thinking. Most of our opinions are from feeling/imposed ideology, so engaging with ideas (What do you think Kamala will do that will be so good? What makes you think that? Etc.) can force people out of that state and get them to actually consider why. Saying she's a dirty capitalist cop that should face the wall probably won't help lol.
correct. they don't give a shit
Death to America
Vibes win elections. But if she doesn't have control of the congress, people are going to get as upset as they were with biden sans the age.
If she does have control of congress, it'll be only by a small majority. And that would look even worse when she doesn't get anything done.
People are happy now. But I can't see this ending well unless she is personally ambitious.
The people excited about her are fine with that. They would've been big into
in 2016.and then libs will move on to support the next liberal candidate praising it for it's progressive tendencies and whatever nonsense
Unfortunately kamala is not nearly as hated as Hillary, so I feel like this one is in the bag
"There are ways to get people's attention. This isn't it"
Something something inevitable.
It does make me wonder why folks like that protest at Harris events but not Trump events, given what Trump has said about how he'd handle Palestine.
They think they can maybe sway Harris/the dems in general. Not unreasonable, seeing as IIRC they stand to potentially lose Michigan due to its (relatively) large muslim community which will likely have reduced turnout if her policies stay the same.
There is no convincing Trump or the repubs. Their voter base LOVES genocide. The only people who aren't onboard are some of the more extreme neo-nazis, who only disagree because they hate jews (I note here that Israel is not representative of all jews, and to claim so is anti-semitic, but these are neo-nazis) more than they hate muslims.
because Harris says one thing and does the opposite, while trump straight up says he supports the genocide.
Trump isn't courting their vote, Harris is. Trump isn't saying he wants what they want, Harris does.
Trump is a republican and as such would never be able to get the leftist vote, democrats are, which is why leftists try to reason with them.
The best way I've heard it described is like this: Republicans are werewolves outside the cabin openly howling for blood. I expect no consideration from them.
Liberals are other humans in the cabin with us who, despite professing to hate and fear the werewolves, refuse to hand over the silver bullets or lock any doors. I have been told that they want what I want, so their constant capitulation to the werewolves' demands arouses baffled frustration.
Republicans don't even try to pretend to give a fuck about anyone that's not white/cis/male/straight/ Christian/ western.
Unlike Democrats who have made it their identity