Children is bugs
Children is bugs
Children is bugs
If you married an entomologist and get upset about that, it's kinda on you.
Are entomologists known for withholding information from their SO?
Bug related information? Yes
He probably should have been honest and upfront about it, but he also named their kid after something he obviously loves, and I think that's great. If she loved the name before knowing its origin, she should love it even more for being associated with something that at least one parent thinks is beautiful.
The issue there is that she loved Moana. He thought she would get bullied for that name, so instead named her after a bug. He put his love for insects over his wife's love, and tried to rationalize it to himself. But his rationalization doesn't hold under the least bit of scrutiny, because more kids would tease her after being named after an insect than a Disney movie. The saving grace here is that the cicada doesn't come up in Urban Dictionary (kids love that shit), and it comes up after the Brazilian municipality.
Overall, I'd say he is the butt head, but it's not a huge deal.
literally nothing wrong with that it's just a name
Am I The Butt Face?
Damn did Reddit go and censor "Am I The Asshole?"
Nah, there are just a bunch of alternate subs that people made after disliking the moderation.
I had to google that abbreviation and only came up with
Adventures In The Beetroot Field (booking agency; London, UK)
I eventually clicked on the reddit link though, after putting on some rubber gloves and taking a few anti-nausea pills. There i found the right explanation
Maua. Maua is what bwings us togeva today.
Man and Wife! Say man and wife!
In Maori, Maua means "we", or "both of us". It's also shorthand for "we share similar beliefs".
Could have gone that route.
I mean I have said I would want to name my kid Nodo-Chinko. It's the Japanese word for the Uvula but it more directly translates to "throat penis"....
So he could have done way worse.
throat penis
I now have a new term for the uvula, thanks Japan!
I've always been partial to the name Pubert myself. It's pronounced "Pube-air."
I mean チンコ (chinko) is still censored on at least TV, so I think it's a little disingenuous to say it's the word. The actual word is 口蓋垂 ( こうがいすい - kougaisui) whose kanji mean something like mouth, cover, and zig-zaggy thing (specifically a type of Shinto zig-zag paper design, according to my dictionary).
Nodo hwhat?
Oh it means "throat penis"? I don't know if that's better.
Idk it's not the worst name ever. Definitely sounds like a "kooky millennial parents wanted an interesting name" name. But there's worse. Much worse. He should've told her where it came from though, kinda a dumb thing to not involve your wife in. You know. The name of her child.
TBH I don't know how the relationship got this far if she hates bugs so much.
More precisely, how has the relationship come this far without him knowing she hates all bugs?
That's where your reading comprehension took you huh
I wonder if they are aware that in Europe the Disney character is called Vaiana, because there is a porn star named Moana.
I got downvoted to hell for stating the same thing on reddit a couple of years ago!
Also, the choice was not just to avoid association with the porn star. The name Moana was not legally available to Disney in several European countries so they had to find a different name
i love the idea that disney would for some reason care about a porn star that barely anyone has ever heard about, as if search results for the name wouldn't instantly be overwhelmed by the disney movie..
the legal issues have to like 97% of the reason for the name change
Thank you kind sir for the vintage research material.
Apparently there were legitimate trademark issues also at play. Apparently its an Ice cream brand in Romania and a perfume brand in Spain.
Wife should have Googled it, she's the buttface.
The Cicada species doesn't pop up in the first 3 pages though
All the less reason to be upset about naming your kid after a bug. If the bug isn't even Google's first association, why should it be yours?
Wife doesn’t seem to like cicadas but still read through his work notes?
She didn't one day googe it for some reason, she read through his papers and found it for some reason.
People make such a big deal of naming their kids. Just give them regular old names and call it a day. How about Paul? I guarantee everyone will feel indifferent to it, so it's a winner.
I wonder how Maua would feel if they named her Paul instead.
call it a day
If they were afraid that the name Moana might be bullied at school, then Day would maybe be even worse
Atreides
Pesky Paul and the bene geserits doing weird shit in the dessert.
Ya know, I never really processed it before, but that's Frank Herbert making a Greek mythology pun/spoiler: the atreides
Not dave cuz fuckdave
deep cut right here
So many good names to reuse. I say we pull out some victorian names, we've gotten past the "that's my grandma" part of the cycle so it's about due pretty soon.
Who the fuck names their kid without googling it
People who trust their husband, shame on them
Bullshit.
You're making a joint decision that will last a lifetime. Both are expected to contribute and understand
I'd still be looking it up as the husband. I wouldn't want to risk giving my kid a name that sounds good but has a terrible etymology.
It's really hard to put myself in the shoes of someone so against cicadas... Like I get that it's possible to not like them so intensely you wouldn't want your name to be inspired by them, but I'm just not sure how I'd have that person in my life.
Children do descend upon large amounts of sweets in the same way that insects do. That's all I'm saying.
They buzz around too. Sometimes in swarms. They can be adorable and fuzzy, as well as annoying and gross. They can be vampires and drain your energy. They can be essential to our life/enviroment too.
I'd be mad if my child was named after a cicada instead of a cooler bug. If you name the child after something more dangerous they will be ready to dominate the playground. No toddler would have the courage to mess with a kid named Yellowjacket.
I mean depending on their ethnic background naming the kid Moana would have been an issue for reasons besides being teased for being named after a disney princess.
If you can only name kids after your own ethnic background there's a lot of Richards/ Riciardos/Jeans/Jans/Johns/Stephen/Joris/Mubaraks/Etiennes out there that are mislabelings.
All of those examples are linguistic drift though.
Naming a white girl moana isn't the same as some guy named Peter and his russian buddy Pyotr realizing that their names derive from the same origin in Greek (or Aramaic depending on how much you wanna argue Kefa should count as the origin since Petros was a direct translation of it as a name)
Are you saying that if one ethnicity uses a name another can't? If so, someone should inform all the Japanese people named after various white Disney characters (not that it's a huge group, but particularly around Frozen there were some Elsas and such).
No, just that it'll pretty offensive for the white folks that have made polynesian life hell since just after they found the Pacific to suddenly begin jacking their names and cultural aesthetics because of a fun movie.
This is the same shit as the dreadlocks debate, people are still getting discriminated against for this stuff, it ain't kosher to wear it like a costume while the people it originates from can't wear it without catching shit when it was theirs from the start.
Would some Polynesian person naming their kid Richard or some other white bread name be problematic?
What's wrong with bugs? They're cool, while a made up string of characters (that sounds good) might be better I don't see what's wrong with using an uncommon scientific name. Then again being honest is likely helpful.
There's nothing wrong with bugs. It's all about intent, and he clearly intended to hide this from her because he knew (correctly) it would be a problem for her. So it was a lie by withholding relevant information. About their daughters name. Its messed up. It's also dumb because it's so easy to look up the origin of a name that this "secret" isn't really one at all.
It would be, but he did say he thought it was a harmless secret. That could be read as though he didn't know it would bother her.
Like, my name allegedly means things, but unless my mom really hates the Irish, I don't think many of them would set her off.
I was questioning why it became so problematic. It's still a good name and could totally have been a coincidence. The name being related to work seems like the main issue to me.
Because having a weird name makes you a target for bullying. Also the name of a loud and annoying beetle is worse.
In my experience having a common name has that effect too. I feel like every name has the potential for bullies to target it. Also this is only one subcategory of beetle (that most people likely don't know) if I read it correctly.
Could’ve been any of the million awful names that have popped up over the last decade…
Aliviyah, Ashlynn, Brynlee, Andreanna, Alyviana, Camdyn
Need I go on?
Rise of the -dens:
Edit:
Bonus: Rise of the -leighs:
no one is going to know unless you tell them. there are worse things to be called.
Lmfao u married a snowflake
Time to bug out of this relationship.
I mean, it's a beautiful name...
What person would find that out like that through google...
I was expecting there to be something more wrong with it while reading that, like its a particularly weird or ugly cicada or something 😂
Tbh though I think kids would be more likely to tease her about being named after a cicada than moana 😂
Yes, but chances are kids won't figure out the meaning until late middle-high school. At that point the young adult should be less sensitive to childish bullying (although the way some kids are these days, she might have trouble)
She basically has until Karal the bug nerd figures it out, but chances are he's got his own troubles to deal with.
Do people expect 13-16 year-olds to be more resilient to bullying than younger kids? Are they?
I’d expect that to be the most vulnerable age, but I don’t know. 17-18, I can see, but only because they’re more likely to have more varied social circles, and may be able to find more accepting groups on their own (though that could be a dnd group or an alt-right group, so that’s not necessarily a good thing). Again, I don’t really know anything about childhood development though.
Moana is literally ocean.
This way you can call her bug or something else cute
"If it makes you feel any better, I considered the scenario in which you found the impetus for the name Maua. So a few weeks ago I Googled the name to find what else it means, and apparently it's also a municipality in Brazil, pretty cool huh? Maybe we can take her there one day!"
A rose by any other name?
i mean, this is fine. i wanted to name my kid Skeletor Starscream. it's the hiding it that's the problem + why would you marry someone who'd appear to hate the thing you're passionate about?
swap the u for a w and call it a wwdits reference.
I feel like if I could remove my connotations from the word, Cicada itself would be an awesome name.
Naming your child is serious business and both parents need to be fully informed.
Everyone sucks here. Dad is a liar who abused his wife's trust. Mum didn't bother to google her own child's name and clearly hates her husband's passion. Those two should never have had a child together.
Also they are referring to their baby with gendered pronouns before they're even old enough to speak. I don't believe Maua chose their own pronouns, I think their parents forced feminine gender roles onto them.