Zelenskyy straight-up said Ukraine is going to lose if Congress doesn't send more aid
Zelenskyy straight-up said Ukraine is going to lose if Congress doesn't send more aid
In his starkest warning yet, President Zelenskyy said that "Ukraine will lose the war" to Russia if Congress does not act to send it more aid.
- President Zelenskyy warned that Ukraine would lose the war if the US didn't send it more aid.
- House Republicans have been stalling on a $60 billion aid package for Ukraine.
- "It is necessary to specifically tell Congress that if Congress does not help Ukraine, Ukraine will lose," he said.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said on Sunday that his country "will lose the war" against Russia if Congress does not act to send it more aid, Agence France-Presse reported.
"It is necessary to specifically tell Congress that if Congress does not help Ukraine, Ukraine will lose the war," he said, per AFP.
For months, House Republicans have stalled on a bill containing $60 billion in aid for Ukraine, stipulating that it should also include increased funding for security at the US southern border.
As an American, it is infuriating and heartbreaking to see these psychotic dipshits in Congress actively working to consign an entire fucking country of 60 million people who WANT to integrate more closely with the US and Europe to being one of Putin’s puppet states.
I sincerely hope the GOP either lets this go through or loses power in the next couple weeks. Both outcomes are actually realistic possibilities at this point.
Ukraine can't win without foreign troops on the ground.
Any additional aid is a sunk cost if you think Ukraine can defend itself or take back lost territory.
The only reason we send aid to Ukraine is to weaken Russia and strengthen the MIC.
We gave the Republicans a version with everyone they asked for, and they still voted against it.
Republicans are going to cost this country and theirs fucking everything . Whatever happens to Ukraine I hope the GOP receives 10 fold
Wait a minute. Ukraine never had a chance of winning without foreign troops on the ground.
Did you also think they had a chance at taking back Crimea?
It's Zelenskyy's job to say that. But if he doesn't get it he'll be in a tough situation with his troops assuming he tries to backpedal that and encourage them to keep fighting.
I don't understand why Europe isn't more involved in shutting this situation down. It's your goddamn borders at risk if this smoldering fire isn't put out.
Europe CANT do more. They don’t have the military strength due to perpetual underfunding. It’s precisely what every US President since Bill Clinton has been bitching about. The wolf is at the door and they’re every bit as unprepared as has been claimed for the last 30 years.
We've relied too heavily on NATO and the US and it's biting is in the ass right now. A European army would be great in this exact kind of situation. But then everyone in Europe will be "but muh sovereignty", like Europe didn't do in 50 years what people tried to do for centuries, which is preventing us from killing each other.
He’s not joking. They need more ammo but the truth is the United States can’t produce it fast enough.
Europe is doing a lot but they don’t want to risk nuclear war for Ukraine.
Really this showed nato can’t sustain long term military operations without running out of ammo. I’m pro-military but damn , I didn’t realize how little we could produce.
you do realize that Nato is not at war, right?
I'm not saying Europe shouldn't do more, but at the moment we provide Ukraine with ammunition and equipment while we also have to make sure that our own forces have enough for a possible war with russia.
If this would be an actual war, Russia would loose it in a few weeks, no need for a long time military operation....
Truth is that Russia had more time to prepare and the USSR stockpile to fall back on. They also do heavily rely on unguided shell artillery because of the Soviet heritage, as does Ukraine, which makes it the weapon of choice. So Russia can outpace the West in this one item, dumb artillery shells, for a year.
Europe and the US are ramping up production, and are scheduled to outpace Russia by the end of the year. The truth is, the West was not preparing to fight this war, it was preparing to fight a war where it has overwhelming air superiority, but air capabilities take a ton of time to build with training pilots and whatnot.
Point is, Russia has this year to push this edge as much as possible, if nothing else changes, 2025 will be heavily stacked against them. That said, shit can happen, like with the US election, but on their side as well - remember Prigozhin?
Well, I mean I'm not 100% sure, but I would bet that the USA has more ammunition than anyone else on the planet. We are just hoarding it.
As conservatives cheer.
Conservatism is death.
Republicans doing typical Republican things to no one's benefit.
That said, I don't think aid in the form of sending more arms over is right. The proper humanitarian course of action would have been to send a coalition of troops over to Ukraine to forcefully shut the situation down. So many lives would have been saved had we done this earlier.
Instead we have chosen to let the war drag on by sending weapons and supplies, letting both Ukrainians and Russians(many of which who aren't there by choice) slaughter each other.
Sending troops over runs a huge risk of causing the war to spread, bring more, wider-spread suffering. The us would love to do just that, but it comes with such a massive risk which is why they aren't.
The USA sending troops would basically cause WWIII to kick off. No one wants that.
Could help Palestine in the same fashion. Send in a coalition from everywhere except key players. Get serious with retaliatory attacks on aggressors.
It's possible yes, but you also have to consider that perhaps Russia might not have ever invaded if we had shown that we were willing to fight.
A large part of the invasion was the fact that they knew they could get away with it. They know that we're just going to watch on the sidelines, providing some support from time to time. The people scared of a World War seem to forget that World War II started while the major powers at the time allowed Poland to be conquered before doing anything.
Sending in troops would be extremely risky as that would be a direct war between Russia and the west, basically the start for WWIII with Nike's and other fun things.
Edith: nukes, not Nike's
basically the start for WWIII with Nike's and other fun things.
"WWIII: Just do it."
These are Russian talking points under the guise of practical middle path. Fuck you. Slava Ukraine. Don't blame them for fighting back and ignoring the fact foreign boots equal Putin's finger on the button. "Just give them a little farming land, the locals want it"
Can't tell if you're being ingenuine intentionally or just misunderstanding.
This is far from a middle path. This is the path of aggressively standing between Russia and Ukraine. No where did I ever say that I blame Ukraine for fighting back either. They're doing what is necessary, but the fighting shouldn't have ever been necessary if other countries from around the world were willing to put their troops down and tell Russia no.
As for Putin and the nukes, I really don't get it. It's always going to be this way with Russia. Are you just going to let them take more and more? If Russia invades the rest of Europe are they just not going to fight back because Putin has the capacity to nuke them? At some point there will be a confrontation between Russia and other countries from the world. How much are people going to be willing to give up out of fear that nuclear weapons will be used?
No shit.
Russia's already lost. They traded their entire military export market for a piece of land.
Their trade with China, Iran and North Korea is through the roof. It may not be as diverse or lucrative as western trade, but it's good enough to keep them in decent shape.
Physical destruction needs to be visited upon Putin. The financial pressure will not be enough.
More weapo… aid
Weaponaid? Is that what Chuck Norris drank instead of Gaatorade? ;)
How long until either Hamas or Russia decides to go for the snake’s head?
EDIT: why the downvotes? Y’all too young to remember 9/11?
Russia's new strategy is to take it slow. Hence why they just created two new army for defense in Ukraine. They aren't looking to risk trying to finish this quickly.
Makes complete sense. If they get Trump soon then all support will be pulled from Ukraine, possibly US Removal from NATO, and if they are super lucky they might even get US intelligence passed on to help them...
I hope quickly, so the world can finally rest easy when Putin is dead.
They be teasing us with the news he had cancer a while back
The hard truth is it doesn't matter how much aid we send, Ukraine is in a losing position. They need more than aid to win and that's the problem
The war could have ended if we gave Ukraine all the weapons it needed. We just gave them enough, not to win, but rather, not to lose in fear russian escalation (whatever that means). Russia has declared it's at war with NATO and we're just pussyfooting around and not taking it seriously.
Yep the problem is that people don't play enough Age of Empires. Basically the worst thing you can do in that game is to send a knight to the enemy's base, wait a bit, then send another knight, wait, send next one, ... etc. One by one each of the knights dies without achieving anything because he will be massively outnumbered. The correct thing to do is to muster a group of the knights and then send them all at once. That way you will have the advantage and have an actual chance of winning.
Going back to the real world Ukraine "The West" is almost comically stupid. They are arguing over how much help should be sent to Ukraine and always sending just enough to get by but not enough to give Ukraine an advantage. Instead of spending a lot of money during a short period of time to actually get some results, "The West" decided to slowly throw away money in the infinite pit of frozen conflict.
The way I, the self proclaimed internet war expert, see it, there are 3 possible solutions for "The West" to the Ukraine problem.
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Decide to send a lot of money to flip the tides. (that won't happen)
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Decide that they aren't stupid to feed an endless war and decide to exchange half of Ukraine's territory for Ukraine's membership in NATO. Kinda crap but honestly better than the 3rd option.
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A nothing burger. AKA doing what they are doing right now. The optimistic vision is that over the next decade "The West" will get rich enough that even with these small scraps here and there Ukraine will be able to win in the end. The realistic one is that the scraps won't be enough and Ukraine will slowly but surely lose territory, ending with some kind of crap treaty including Ukraine both losing a lot of territory and not being in NATO. "a lose-lose"
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No it couldn't have and it's sad you're going to go through life thinking otherwise.
Let me say this louder for the people in the back: Ukraine has no chance of winning without foreign troops on the ground.
The most likely best case scenario is a frozen conflict. But Zelensky doesn't want this because such an outcome would call into question everything he did politically up to now. As for Putin, I'm not sure.
I think there's a widespread implicit hope among Western policy makers that if they keep propping Ukraine up, and get Ukrainians to hold out long enough, Russia will suffer a sudden internal collapse and be forced to withdraw. That may be, but it seems equally (more?) probable that Ukraine will be the one that suffers a collapse.
Yes, it's a hard truth and those indoctrinated by propaganda refuse to realize it.
Anyone who acknowledges reality in this situation is a 'tankie'. That's how bad the tribalism has gotten among these idiots.