If tankies can will the term to no longer be shameful then why can't we insist that it still is? Do the tankies have a +1 rhetoric buff that we don't or something?
Oh look, libs, the great deadening force of liberalism that steamrolls all political distinction into shapeless paste, has you suddenly concerned that your false equivalence bullshit has cheapened a term that, while already meaningless to you, relied on other people giving a shit to give it meaning and purchase while you smugged your way through life.
You got what you want and you hate it. Not my problem. Eat up, libs. You spineless stand-for-nothing cowards. I'll put the slop bowl on the floor so you can reach it
This is an Anti-Tankie reddit. The message you sent is either tankie/authoritarian "socialist" apologia or can be easily seen as such. Please, refrain from posting stuff like this in the future.
When your brand of anti-left leftism is so coherent and robust that you need an automod to delete posts that might disrupt the circlejerk
Sounds authoritarian [Where's that damn emote of the person in a well? lol]
I was literally just now saying to @emizeko@hexbear.net that this is why we need to formalise the tactic rather than just breaking down individual uses of the tactic like "tankie".
This tactic is in use in so many ways. It's being popularly referred to as "thought-terminating cliche", which might end up the name of the tactic when it's formalised. Things like calling everyone a "terrorist" to stop any thought about what they're doing or why. "Tankie". "Woke". "SJW". Etc etc. This tactic is in significant usage and any time you break down the usage of an individual word they create a new one, so you're always going to fight this battle that way.
To fight this properly we need to go one step higher, don't attack just the individual usage but attacking the tactic itself too.
In order to do this we need to formalise this tactic in language and popularise it in order to drastically undercut its ability to be used. By formalising it as a bad thing (like fallacy shit) the libs and debatebros start calling it out when they see it. This way we could weaken its ability to be used considerably.
We need the technique to be picked up and talked of by orgs and academically. We need some people to write about the phenomenon/tactic itself so that those articles can then be pointed to as sources for its existence, and then wiki and other shit can get made for it to further cement it as a recognised formal language thing. From that point onwards it's just a matter of repeatedly pointing to the articles and shit to spread it more and more and more. It'll take on a life of its own and considerably wreck the tactic.
I think this is actually really worthwhile doing as it's one of the most common tactics of the US information and thought control system.
There is a very clear process of steps we can take.
If you live in a country dominated 99.98% by the rightwing and you spend all your time online crusading against “tankies” and punching left you are just an anti-communist chud
I feel like it's a decent bet that neither the OP of that post nor the majority of people replying have ever even given food or money to a homeless person.
That reminds me, I wanted to make a right wing Twitter account that just comments on Steelers tweets, attempts to flirt with porn phishing accounts, and calls centrist liberals "tankie"
I think these modern liberals would refer to those original British Trots as tankies, the ones who coined the term. Decades of propaganda and a weakened left in the west has resulted in these oddball social democrats who claim to be far more leftist than they actually are, because revolutionary socialism is too scary or something. Or they think foreigners are scary.
Also "this influences the real world and people's movements" lmao no it does not. Calling someone a tankie on Twitter repeatedly doesn't do shit. This is really a good insight into how these bozos think, isn't it? They think debates online do anything.
I for one think both the teacher and the schoolyard recess monitor need to be made aware of the depredations of these red fash tankies. It's that serious.
God what a fucking dork. This is the political equivalent of the Tetris effect. I need to go outside, but this loser needs to GO OUTSIDE.
When we called right wingers chuds, 4chan was all "a chud worked out today, it was me." If you ever wanted to engage, it seems like it would serve you to relish in the title. A tankie is going to start a union vote today or an anarchist is going to work ALONGSIDE a tankchud, it's me. Even on some looks like my sexual pathology got the best of me. Give me your toothbrush. Someone with an axe to grind about authoritarianism can't balance that with the irony. If they could they'd probably have something better to do.
Tankies are being a threat to domestic security by naysaying the 4th reich sending more tanks into ukraine! We must eradicate these TERRORIST AUTHORITARIANS
Tanks are inherently, like, super freakin' rad. idk why anyone would ever think it is an effective insult lol i wish i was in a tank right now (or at least one of those cool 8-wheeled gun carrier/APC thingies)
Now I just reply to them that I'm an adult who wears a diaper and I hate tankies too. No matter what Stalin Big Spoon tantrum follows, I just wholesale agree with it as an adult wearing a diaper.
Love how this all relies on the belief that posting is praxis, and that by posting "tankie" you are saving the world from a future unspecified global dictator.
Lol. Feel like you should be prioritizing the legislators taking away your freedom and not some guy with a Stalin profile picture making fun of Europeans for buying marked up Russian oil from India
Left of Bernie is far too generous. I've seen Trumpsters and even other liberals called tankies by internet libs for not supporting nuking Russia. More like left of Reagan, Thatcher, and Himmler.
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