What are your thoughts on bots and people posting only news articles on lemmy?
As the service grows, I have noticed more and more people and bots popping up, only posting links to a news article and that's that. Usually there is no post, no summary and nothing from the OP but the link.
What do you all think about this?
Do you think it's a good thing, because it is providing content? Do you maybe find it annyoing and if so, why?
I myself am happy when people take the time out of their say to try to provide content, but for me it's a bit low effort a lot of the times.
Bots I tend to block immediately and people it they make it hard for me to reader other posts between all their link-posting.
But I am more curious how you all think about this and whether you consider it good or bad.
I suppose it depends on how you define content. Usually when people post it includes some discussion. Those types of posts get drowned in the bot posts however.
Lemmy, like Reddit, operates like a link aggregator, so news article spam sorted by type into sublemmy's is sort of its "natural state". IMO there's not really anything wrong with it, because it's a good way to get conversations started.
I don't really like the lemmit.online bot that just reposts "archive" posts from Reddit.
This is just another reminder that reddit didn't start its life with comments. Reddit was just the links at first, comments came later, and yes, the first comment was complaining about there being comments and how the site would be ruined.
I used to run a news bot on my profile for my community, but some people PM'd me to mark my profile as bot. I also personally use my account so I don't want my other post/comments to be seen as bot activity; and my instance did not permit creation of a second account for the bot only, what should I do to keep the bot running without having my profile marked as bot?
I feel like it will be increasingly used for propaganda, not discussion. By cherry picking articles, these news accounts will try to shape public opinion.
Whether or not itโs posted by a bot, real users are the one commenting and voting on it. Itโs not going to be useful for spreading propaganda unless itโs something the user base already believes
As long as it's not "spammy" and there's actual engagement or discussion on the posts I don't see an issue. But if the community being posted to isn't engaging with the posts, or it's crowding out the more interesting posts, yeah that's not great and shouldn't be allowed.
Hate it. If it's a person fine, I guess, but I wish bots weren't allowed to create posts at all. I would rather see Lemmy grow very slowly than see Lemmy become a mirror of Reddit, with shit tons of scraped posts that have little to no engagement on them. That's not a community, it's a newspaper. I don't understand the "massive growth at any cost" mindset.
Counterpoint, I'm trying to find a good bot to be a matchbot for a community I made. It's more effort than I have time to devote to posting a Pre-Match, Match, and Post-Match thread to the community with lineups, match events, and game summary. I wish a bot could take care of that so I could simply comment on the game in each thread.
I don't mind the news, I absolutely hate the bots.
I said in another comment before, there's an "AITA" bot reposting everything from Reddit, but, who are we supposed to answer if it's a bot that's asking? It doesn't make any sense...
If there is no engagement (or at least something that's educational or informational), then what's the point?
If it was a "TIL" bot I'd probably have a harder time hating on it, but still.
My problem with it's poor quality sources and/or content. For example: yellow journalism.
I want to be informed and have good discussions, not being outraged or click baited.
I get news from the fediverse so I'm very happy with others posting news.
I don't like repost bots though because they tend to be programmed to let non-fedizens control the agenda. Eg scraping what the people of Reddit upvoted.
I used to get most of my news from Reddit, now that I donโt use Reddit I get them from here. I post pretty frequently news articles on my countryโs community and think that they are a good source for a discussion.
I am also replacing reddit for news. I currently find it a bit tedious to see the same post on 2 or 3 different sites, however, there are not too many subscribers so I go with it.
I have noticed more interactions with some of the bot posts. If I see at least one comment I check it out and have started engaging that way.
Everything has to find the right rhythm. This takes time (and sometimes duplicate posts).
For sure, duplicate posts are annoying but thatโs the nature of the fediverse, I think some apps are trying to combat this but it would take time. Overall Iโm pretty happy with my new home here!
I hate it. Some communities just fill up my feed with links to news articles with zero (or zero quality) comments. I either unsubscribe from these communities, or block the poster. In some cases they are so frequent, and with images that are effectively advertising. That and the zero comments, they just remind me of Reddit ads. I don't think you can hope to build a community by drowning out any discussion with a flood of posts from news sites. If you're the mod of a community with so little interaction, then you should be curating content and adding comments yourself.
It really annoys me, especially as there seems to be at least two lemmy instances that are 99% just a bot reposting everything from reddit.. Really wish I could block whole instances
I'm generally opposed to spambots and unnecessary bots.
If these bots are just, like, CNN wrote a bot to post every CNN article to a news community, that's annoying.
But as long as the bots aren't spammers / advertisers / just annoying as shit, it seems like they're doing something pretty useful without causing any harm. Not opposed to it.
Oh, and the other problem on reddit ends up being that these bots farm karma to make themselves look more legitimate, as though they're people. That's probably something we should keep an eye on long-term.
At the end of the day I'd argue that the majority of people want a "Reddit like" experience, with dozens or posts with heaps of engagement. I'm happy to have news / repost bots if the end result is a more engaging comment thread / discussion.
When looking at older Reddit posts, I never enjoyed the comments where the discussion was OP focused. I'm keen to have them phrase the original question / link and then step back and let the discussion naturally form
Not only do I think bots should be banned from making posts, I also think that people that display bot-like behavior should be warned and then banned if they don't stop.
As the service grows, I have noticed more and more people and bots popping up, only posting links to a news article and thatโs that. Usually there is no post, no summary and nothing from the OP but the link.
I am 100% fine with this.
Not crazy about bots reposting shit from Reddit though.
I am a mod of !t_mobile@lemmy.ml and do a decent amount of article posting. Once the community has some organic traffic i will slow down or totally stop doing it. The community has 109 subs but only once in a while is there ever a comment and there may be one post that i didnt make.
I have learned that the downside of moderating a political community (magazine in my case since I'm on kbin) is that I can't/shouldn't block bad actors because I need to be able to see their content if I'm to moderate effectively.
I don't mind it, as long as they're keeping it relevant to the communities they're posting in. There's a couple I've noticed that don't seem to respect the intent of the communities too much, but most of the bots I've seen seem to be pretty well-curated so far.
I'd rather it be people than bots. If it's someone posting an article of something they're interested in, I don't necessarily need an initial comment from them, but if I post one, it's be nice to get a response back from OP.
Especially if it's something non-US I like learning how things work on other parts if the world. I didn't really want a US take on world events when I could get it from someone there.
I find most of the "news" and "technology" communities useless and boring for this reason and usually end up unsubscribing when a slew of blaaahhhhh fills up my feed. Lots of articles, stories etc just copied and pasted (or scraped) with no context, explanation, insight, commentary. Why does this matter? Why did you posts it? Why should I care?
If you texted a link to this article to a family member or friend...what would you say to explain WHY you're sending it? Would you just send the link and the title with no other details? They would find it weird. Share it with me like we're friends.
so far I've seen some bots post articles that setup some pretty decent conversation. I am slightly annoyed that it floods but, I just keep my sorting by stuff that's hot and it's usually good.
Depends on the community and the articles I guess. Not a fan of bots making posts unless it's in comments for something useful like auto TLDR or something.
Sorting by new is swarmed with bot posts. Switched to top - 6H on Sync and the difference is huge. But, any activity on lemmy is good in my books. If a space is to be a pinnacle of perfection, it would be too off putting, like tildes. I rarely visit that site anymore.
On the occasions I visited, I felt like the discussions were very serious, something a tightly wound community would have and god forbid if I posted something stupid. Also I believe the users cannot create their own communities which left only a handful of things I was interested to browse there. Tildes refuses to be an alternative for reddit with such an adamant stance on quality
Sounds good to me but also i can get my news from google news so I hope the bot is posting non-mainstream stuff. reddit felt like democrat astroturfing. like too much majory taylor greene. I like to laugh at em too but it just felt.... bought out. HA. bot out. bought out.
Google news is actually fantastic. I picked it up when Reddit dropped and itโs been a great time killer. Encouraged me to sub to a news site and read articles and less comments. Kbin/lemmy have been like a nicotine patch to get off Reddit.
It would be up to moderators of individual communities to proactively ban bots. It's not impossible, but it is unlikely that every community will have that level of moderation.