Too many non-working holidays in America
Too many non-working holidays in America
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Why do we use the fall of civilization period known as the middle ages as a standard? Most of human history was hunter-gatherers. One of the better moments was during the age of Rome.
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Is that in project 2025 ? I dont remember but they are on track for sure.
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This isn't entirely true - someone calculated that, on a good year, a peasant could only work 150 days a year towards the rent of their own farmland. Then they have to actually work that land, take care of their animals, and manually do basically every industrial process we take for granted to get food in their belly. They didn't work 150 days a year then go off with a cheque that will sort them out for the rest of the year.
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wasn't this confirmed false?
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Thinly veiled attempt to get rid of juneteenth. So just the usual rightwing racism.
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The mans an idiot
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Happens in Germany too right now. People really need to find back to Unions and take more Power over their rights, before they just Cut it off
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Happening all over the globe. The capitalist hegemony is getting scared because their system is collapsing in on itself and, through the imperial boomerang, are beginning to employ practices only performed abroad on the interior in order to maintain their power. The US is just far ahead of the curve due to its lack of a functioning political leftwing keeping things in check.
Now is most certainly the time for people to unionize and start relearning why unions formed in the first place: so workers can band together to exert their political will and take ownership over their workplace from a parasitic class that has only ever existed to exploit our labor.
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Says the obese pig to whom EVERY day is a holiday and a reason to golf. I never knew that POTUS was a part time position. America is fucked if there's ever a crisis before 11:00am, on a week end, or on a golfing day......
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11 am? Hey he gets up daily at 4 am and "truths" on his website for a couple hours while on the toilet
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Nah F that, most Americans barley get any paid time off if any. If anything we need MORE.
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They mostly don't get any of those "holidays" paid anyway which is why they don't like them. You're lucky if you get Christmas and Thanksgiving paid on top of your two weeks of PTO. The rest are days the banks close and some other places give their people unpaid days off.
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Yeah, it's hilarious to hear "workers want less" when what they really mean is less forced unpaid time off, obviously if they want money they'd want to work. I'm sure those people would prefer paid time off to having to work.
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Afaik, what he does is called manufacturing consent.
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maybe there are too many non-working presidents right now?
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Translation: we shouldn’t give black people in america a federal holiday because i am a racist and demented old man who is increasingly irrelevant in society.
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demented old man who is increasingly irrelevant in society.
Trump: And I will make sure I go out with a bang and take everybody with me!
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If he takes all of his cronies with him, that'd be great.
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This guy LITERALLY raped a 13 year old back in the day, and only golfs.
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Don't these holidays cost owners rather than workers, though?
I used to love working holidays as a single guy for that double pay. 🤑
No holidays means only 1x pay 👎 nevermind if you just wanted to take the day off without getting docked.
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I've been meaning to ask how donald trump intends to "make america great again" when it stopped being "great" shortly after he became president.
You can't make it worse on purpose and then make it better again and say "see! I made it great again"
But i suppose he did do that with the price of eggs. So maybe thats the plan.
Oh well! Like his cognitive function, the plan is failing,
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See, he thinks what's happening IS great, so he's winning his battle. It was never to make it great for us, it was only ever to make it great for him and his ilk. Always has been, always will be.
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Technically, there is no law requiring a company to provide PTO or close on Holidays. Its up to the company, not this stupid bastard.
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The government is however required to give most employees several days off throughout the year which might be what he’s bitching about
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Biggest problem with non-working "holidays" is that they only apply to certain more privileged people who also get paid to not work. Everyone else either sits at home unpaid for the day, or has to work (most often without any additional compensation) to support those who do get the paid day off.
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It’s not actually a privilege to have paid time off and paid holidays, it’s the norm across the developed world. United States is just creepy
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“The workers don’t want it”. He had about as much sense of this as he does of a concept of health care plan.
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Workers. Hate. Paid. Holidays.
We've been saying it for years, but nobody listens. The liberal nanny state keeps forcing me to stay home, spend time with my family, or even go on vacation, when all I really want to do is stare at spreadsheets for another eight hours.
Enough is enough!
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Before resting, I go to work tired tomorrow. After resting, I go to work angry tomorrow.
Without tasting freedom for a day or two I would not be angry about losing it.
Defund weekends, they are some DEI bullshit!
/sarcasm
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I know right? ALL I want is to make money and not for me but for some idiot who has control of the market and that means that if my labor is worth $200 an hours all I want is to work work work and especially for a fraction of that.
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In all fairness, Trump is just a moldy, hollowed-out Golem. Every Juneteenth, Stephen Miller shmooshes his shiny dome straight into Trump's rear end and starts flicking and vibrating his tongue across Donnie's prostate like it's a musical instrument carved from rotting cheese, inducing a flurry of nerve impulses that spread through Trump's spine and into his abnormally short, sticky sausage fingers, where they smear out the latest batch of vile racist garbage.
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This is the worst thing to read first thing in the morning 🤮
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The workers don't want it. What workers actually want is an end to holidays, weekends, and time off in general. I mean, what good is being a "worker" if you're not working every waking minute of your life? /s
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I know several, they're type that base their whole identity around their job, and the type to die very quickly after retirement. They also vote conservative.
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bring back the 168 hour workweek
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Like everything he says/does there is a slight truth buried deep in there.
Some 'workers' really don't want it. They are called corporate middle management. They don't want the wage slaves to disrupt profit or crowd the spaces that they will be using because management will still take the day off.
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Nah, the people who don't want it are hourly workers who are living paycheck to paycheck, which is tens of millions of workers.
The sad truth is he's right, but the reason is that for these people, missing out on $80 could be the difference between paying the water bill or not this month.
It's not that people love to work so much that they hate missing a day, it's that they can't afford to not work a day.
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I don’t think you are seeing the issue clearly. If you don’t want a day off it’s because your wages are not high enough.
You are wrong. There is zero truth in this post.
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As a Dane, I have always been fucking shocked at the slave-like working conditions Americans work under. They barely get any time off as it is. What do you mean too many holidays?
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The worst part is... If you've ever had the pleasure of working with an American company you'll notice just how unproductive they are.
Obviously the two are closely connected, but it's always fascinating to me
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Yeah there's that myth that if you make people work more hours more work will be done. It all makes sense on the spreadsheet!
Reality is the workers are human, humans get tired and you aren't getting more work out of anyone by making them work more hours. You're just making someone be at a place longer because you can.
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So true. True efficiency can only be achieved when human labour is finite. Look at the small countries of norther europe. /my first comment on lemmee :D
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The problem is that in Germany, our Chancellor is currently on the same trip saying that 'the people don't work enough' even though most people (who have a full time job) already work about 40 hours and many woman would like to work more but can't because there are not enough daycare centres and retirement homes.
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My wife worked for Siemens-Gamesa for a long time, and German managers were always surprised how the Danes would just straight up decline meetings after 16 and leave early if they had to pick up kids.
They didn't worry about that at all, of course, because their wives generally didn't work full time.
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That's what they get when you don't fight for your rights.
Look at it now, semi-fascist for half a year and they're still basically singing Kumbaya.
They get what they deserve.
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Ah yes. The obligatory racist whinging on Juneteenth. Fat lazy bastard who doesn't get to work before 11 am because he requires "executive time" (tv time).
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Meanwhile the US have the fewest paid leave days of any country on the planet (source).
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Quel con !
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Didn't he just create like two new holidays?
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And here we see this buffoon once again viciously attacking his political enemies...(Flips papers)...
..."Anyone with half a brain who works for a living."
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He says on the holiday dedicated to the freeing of the slaves. It’s no coincidence this the one he complains about.
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And here I thought I would get away without seeing trump bitch about juneteenth..
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Kind of telling to be complaining about this on a day which celebrates the end of slavery.
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The fucker is actively cratering the once biggest economy in the world
and his constituents cheer.
I hope every one of you 'genocide joe' objecters who stayed home feel crushing guilt as you watch the country collapse due to your misplaced ideologies
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Look, on the one hand, I understand your sentiment. On the other hand, these are the voters you have, blaming them won't get them to the polls, "teaching them a lesson" won't get them to the polls. As hard as it may be to primary the Dems who are voting for Trump's picks, who are voting for genocide, who are even trying to pull Trump towards war right now, it is still easier than getting new voters if you're not into domestic genocide like Trump.
I understand you're frustrated with voters, but it's something that you can't change. Some people will not vote if the options are "one genocide or two genocides". You can change the politicians, try to get more people like AOC and Bernie and less people like Schumer though.
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LOL still seething about the well deserved loss.
As a European nothing gives me more pleasure than watching your country collapse.-
I'm always amazed at the sheer ignorance displayed by citizens of the dead empires. You should have learned what a dying empire does from your own history.
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They should have the day they voted for. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Good thing that at least the genocide stopped immediately, Palestinians now have their own country, the Ukraine war was negotiated on day one, eggs are a buck a dozen and everybody has Healthcare now.
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Here's why everyone is angry. Seemingly at people like you, I'm assuming, who decided not to vote. Democrats weren't the ones committing the genocide!! They were absolutely enabling it. Supporting it. Israel was committing the genocide and we weren't voting for their government. And then, on top of that, it was absolutely evident that Trump would make the genocide worse and not voting against him was effectively voting for him. And that's on you. You did that. There was a slim chance that Kamala could improve the situation and Palestinian lives. Instead, your lack of vote ensured that wouldn't happen, ensured that more Ukrainians would die, ensured that Africans would die, ensured that American women would die, ensured that millions of Americans will die if there's a pandemic. And now instead of just fixing the Democratic party for the future, we're also fighting fascism. So fucking congrats. Your short-sighted high horse didn't take a harm reduction strategy and many human lives are now gone. You need to fucking own that.
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They both have the same sponsors and work for them, not the public.
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fuck off bot
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$BILLIONS
I mentally read this in the same voice I read $VARIABLE with.
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🤓
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And he seriously said this, what the actual fuck. It seemed so absurd that i had to look up, and yeah its there...
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Go play golf and change your diaper grandpa, you’re getting crabby.
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I do hate holidays as a working stiff:
They exist only as a foil to working days- once working days are eliminated, so too will holidays be.
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Yeah, non working holidays only take away time for me to serve my corporate billionaire masters. 😤
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"the workers don't want it"
The fuck we don't
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That's one of the fundamental strategies from the trump playbook: just claim the people want something and if it's repeated loud and often enough, people will start to believe it. Hopefully not for something as egregious as this, but it has worked in the past.
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Cadlillac agrees with Trump. Slave labour is what makes America great and the slaves love it apparently.
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And then he went golfing. True story.
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And he flew using US government plane. He has spent millions on just plane rides.
Who is wasting tax payer's money.
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We have the least mandated PTO in the developed world and a good portion of the underdeveloped world.
Our federal holidays aren't even days off for most people. Lol
My opinion of him can't be lower but man I keep realizing how fucking stupid his supporters are with every one of his asinine comments.
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Yeah I called Juneteenth getting axed over a month ago and one of my co-workers chimed in that Juneteenth was a Trump holiday. It isn't, it was signed into law by Biden his first year in office. Trump lied about it while campaigning.
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Yeah I’ll be shocked if it still exists next year. He’ll call it “woke DEI” and his bitches in congress will scramble to be on the wrong side of history yet again.
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Says the man that golf's more than work
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King Cuck says no more holidays while golfing his presidency away.
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See, it's fine when he goes golfing as he doesn't directly contribute anything to his or his pals' wealth. But those workers actually creating wealth, how dare they take days off.
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I hate paid time off. It’s one of the greatest crimes of modern life. I think I’ll campaign to have my union dismantled and my pay cut in half because the current model is clearly ripping off my employer.
Keep in mind that the guy complaining about PTO hasn’t worked a day in his life.
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"Yeah, PTO is gay!" - Guy who works part-time at Dollar General.
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I actually have coworkers who were complaining about a day off, and saying "everybody's lazy, nobody wants to work anymore". Take the day off, and shut up!
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How old are they? I feel like old people have nothing other than their jobs. They never had many hobbies and they never had to raise their kids.
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Tell those coworkers to pick up the slack and work on their day-off. Take the off time for you and others so the aggravted workers feel good and pat their backs.
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Also we should bring back prima nocta for the holy job creators, and really just bring back slavery. I mean, people can't afford their own homes and such anyway, imagine how much more EFFECIENT it would be if we could cut through the red tape and get similar results.
-Republicans, unironically^
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One of the country with the least amount of paid vacation in the world. And that's the hill he decides to climb on. He excels at making himself look increasingly moronic.
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The only reason they don't have a lower amount of mandatory paid vacation is because it is impossible to go below 0.
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Don't give them ideas.
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It would be fun to make Trump work a job for 90 days. Nothing major. Maybe answering phones for a help line.
9 to 5 desk job.
Monday through Friday.
If he misses a day he has to "find a new job" and start over.
The dude would fucking CRACK like he was being waterboarded!
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And then for evenings and weekends, he has to: do chores around the house, fix shit instead of hiring someone else to do it, pay bills, contact businesses because they billed you incorrectly and you can't afford to pay the extra hundred they're charging you, go grocery shopping, meal prep, do taxes, and all the while be a good husband, father, and person who takes care of themselves.
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This should be a requirement for holding public office.
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Which is why it's absolutely insane they use aoc's prior job as a bartender as an insult. Motherfuckers, she's probably the only person in office who actually understands what it means to work.
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Should be a requirement for life. My SO always says everyone should be required to work retail for one week during the holidays. I have to agree.
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Yeah, like how he "worked" at McDee's as a fry cook for 2 minutes and then smiled and waved at people for the rest of his "shift".
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He's right. This year, everybody's gotta work Christmas.
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What a fucking moron along with all his voters
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They need that tax revenue to make up for all the tax cuts for the wealthy.
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It's likely he doesn't actually believe it, but instead he's starting a disinformation campaign so that he can let his lackeys start to start doing some illegal shit because it will benefit him.
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And the fact he posted this on Juneteenth is just coincidence, right?
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"The workers don't want it!"
Some people said basically the exact same thing about slaves. That they liked being slaves.
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America produces way more than enough to allow everyone to live comfortably and enjoy life. But the fruits of all that extra productivity is being hoarded by a tiny portion of the population while workers are being increasingly stretched and strained to extract as much value from then as possible while paying them as least as possible.
The scarcity of wealth and the need to always work harder and longer hours to barely make it is an illusion maintained to exploit the workers.
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I doubt he cares about holidays at all, but he very much cares about removing a holiday that is specifically relevant to not white people.
I was taking with a family member yesterday and said I'd be shocked if Juneteenth is still a holiday next year.
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life is not created for an economy
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Almost!
The economy is not made for living beings.
Life exists, and there is no will nor force that can make it compatible with "the economy". Certainly not in all the ways that its deranged acolytes are calling for.
But the other way around? Let's give it an honest try, shall we?
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Said the guy who spends 1/3 of his time golfing
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Doesn't tourism help the economy? You gotta give people time off to be the consumers you want them to be.
I know nurses and other government employees who wouldn't want less mandatory holidays off, you're either off or get holiday pay to work on a Monday!
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Remember back in the middle ages, when everyone was sporting an axe and knew where the boss's house was?
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They also had more days off back then, more time to sharpen that axe.
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More holidays, but when you're a subsistence farmer, those aren't really days off, just days you don't have to work for the rent.
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A lot less workers too to be fair (the plague more than did its work...), so it was a workers market
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And worked a lot less than 40 hours a week
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well, worked less than 40hrs a week for an employer. They had a ton of shit to do at home, and if they weren't married, doubly so.
My grandma used to tell me stories of how long it would take to forage for food before refridgerators
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All righty then Ebeneezer...
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Oh yes, all eleven federal holidays will turn into 365 real soon.
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...i'm down for cancelling fcking christmas; federal holidays should be secular...
...give us the solstices, equinoxes, and earth day and i'm pretty good; throw in labor day and memorial day if you want to bump it up to the private-sector seven...
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As a Pagan, if you want federal holidays to be secular then solstices and equinoxes couldn't be counted. Many Pagans (not all) observe them as holy days along with Feb 1-2 (Imbolc), May 1 (Bealtaine - there are multiple spellings this one), August 1 (Lammas/Lughnasadh), and Halloween (Samhain). And I'm sure Pagans that celebrate non-European traditions have other days, I just can't speak to them personally.
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I think any European politician who said anything remotely close to this would see their careers instantly over. How is it possible that saying something like this doesn't cost them votes in the US?
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His voters love the taste of the boot and the democrats are so shitty that most people just don’t bother to vote
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Because republicans have no integrity and have cultivated a base of gibbering idiots who are happy watching others suffer even if it hurts them too
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Because they've spent decades demonising and dismantling unions. There's no voice for the workers.
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There's a voice for the workers at least every 4 years, and workers demonstrated in November they really want this guy back.
I wish them to have the day they voted for.
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Any non-republican in America who said this would also instantly have their careers end. “Would end a political career” happens multiple times a day for trump though and I’m still waiting for him to be held accountable for anything. Unfortunately, they made “holding people accountable” a bipartisan issue and only one party has any interest in doing it…unless it’s a democrat that needs to be held accountable, then it’s usually bipartisan.
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No one is forcing anyone to be closed on holidays! There's no law or rule or anything!
Banks don't have to close and work absolute shit hours because they handle money!
You wanna make more money stay open on holidays.
I work in appliance repair I get the 4th of July, thanksgiving and Christmas and new years.
It sucks. But we make more money.
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My sleep deprived brain trying to process the 4th thanksgiving. Like, I only get one and this guy gets 4. I’m going to go to sleep now, you should also invest in some commas. :)
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I was thinking he only took Thanksgiving off every 4 years.
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Come for the racism, stay for the contempt of working people in general.
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But the economy!
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Soon we'll end up having a holiday for every once working day of the year
Damn! Not that the whole bleat isn't awful, but that's one of the stupidest sentences ever in ALL of the ways! 🤦
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He's just very forward thinking. In 14000 years you'll be sorry for not heading this warning!
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OK, start with Christmas Day. I'll wait.
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lol if he actually tried this, the speed in which big companies would lobby the fuck out of it would be insane.
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You know those tropes in old cartoons where overworked factory workers are given a union-mandated 3-minute lunch break? That's the future of America.
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Back to the days of peasants petitioning the lord to restore their holy days
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If I remember something from r/ask_historians, is that peasants had a shit ton of holidays and festivals.
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Working with people in other countries it really make me jealous they have a notional holiday, seeming every month where the business is closed. Really wish the US had more days like that
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As far as I can tell the US has only slightly less than an average number of public holidays, but the amount of PTO is close to zero for a lot of people.
EU working time directive requires 28 paid days off per year (including public holidays) as a minimum.
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Just to be slightly clearer (unless it's changed since Brexit) those 28 days may or may not include public holidays at the company's discretion.
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We have fewer holidays than medieval peasants. Economic historians vary between 150 and 250 work days vs 261 for a Mon-Fri job.
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Yeah Americans have way too many holidays, like two hole weeks per year!
I mean, compare that to the Europeans with their lousy 5 weeks per year, they never take off!
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Europeans don't have 5 weeks of holidays. It of course depends on the country, region, and sometimes city, but usually is between 8 and 11 days of holidays (that everyone gets on the same day, like new years or the respective independence day) and between 4 and 6 weeks of PTO, which every person chooses when to take.
Plus no sick days, if you are sick you stay at home, no quota. Optionally some paperwork if the sickness lasts a bunch of time.
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Fair enough, I don't know the vacation days in all European countries, but many definitely do
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300 million people can't have a single fucking day off every once in a while because it will "cost billions", while less than 10 people are hoarding over a TRILLION in wealth.
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Too many non-working presidents and billionaires in your country.
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They had the option of Bernie, Harris and Walz just in the last decade, they, they chose the president they chose.
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Truer words have not been spoken.
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I didn't even get to take off yesterday. Fuck this guy.
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Hoffa and JFK got whacked for less than this.
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"MAKE LINE GO UP FOR YOUR OWNERS"
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Remind me how "all these businesses" can be closed if it's really only the federal government actually takes the day off for federal holidays? Like sure some banks do as well, but most companies just stay open
Here in the real US (I.E not has make up fantasy land that he wants his user base to believe in), most companies were business as usual. As most companies only really close for Christmas and maybe Thanksgiving and Easter.
Not to mention that most Federal workers are salary, and their pay includes holidays, if he were to remove the holidays as part of the package, he would need to spend /more/ money on the workers, so it's not like it would be a plus even in his imaginary world. This is ignoring the fact that a good portion of the federal government is also unionized. so this entire plan would fall short before it even hit the water.
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Yeah I wanna say the majority of people have less holidays off these days already. Hell even paid holidays (where the business doesn't close but you get 1.5x pay) seem to be shrinking.
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Sounds like the WH chef staff ran out of chicken nuggies
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Golf.
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someone do the fuckin deed already, I'm so fuckin sick of this jackass and all his Republican dumbfucks
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keep up the talk fat man and we'll have a paid holiday for every finger and toe we cut off.
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fuck him
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Don’t worry, Don, the “essential workers” won’t be affected.
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Nepal enters chat
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_public_holidays?wprov=sfla1
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They work 6 days a week though. So subtract 52 days a year from that 35 and they are 11 days short of the US with 6. They are worse off.
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Where's Cuba?
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South of Florida but North of Jamaica.
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Okay, grandpa. Time for bed.
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What the hell is a non working holiday? Last I checked everyone with a real job works every holiday.
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What are these "real jobs" you speak of? At the absolutely very least, teachers typically also have off for many federal holidays, are you saying that isn't a "real job"?
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If abusing kids was a job the unemployment rate would be damn near 0.
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This is the first trump post where I saw the members of r/conservative unanimously against the president.
Too bad they'll still support him anyway..
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Orangeboi staying true to form and leaning into the idiotic, inaccurate, archaic, and racist “lazy people of color” trope, I see. And on Juneteenth, too. I’m sure that’s part of the subtext he was going for.
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You guys are getting days off?
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American workers is this true?
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true that our president is an illiterate, racist, asshole? Yup.
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If Trump tries to take away a federal holiday, that might be what makes somebody finally do it.
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How the fuck does it cost money to keep businesses closed.
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If you want to prevent this from happening get involved in protests and contact your representatives. #nokings #50501
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...where there's a whip, there's a way where there's a whip, there's a way. We don't wanna go to war today But the lord of the land says NAY NAY NAY we gonna march alll day, all day, all day.... for where there's a whip there's a way
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