Pornhub Is Pulling Out of France
Pornhub Is Pulling Out of France
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Pornhub Is Pulling Out of France
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“Adults are free to consume porn, but not at the expense of protecting our children,” Chappaz said in a tweet Tuesday, according to an English language translation. “Asking pornographic sites to verify the age of their users is not about stigmatizing adults, but about protecting our children.”
These fuckers always throw around the term "protecting our children" when they want to do something shitty. Companies like Pornhub actually have strick controls to actually protect children with their anti-CP policies. By forcing them to adopt these bullshit government controls, it only moves users to less legitimate sites without anti-CP policies.
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Yeah, using kids as a baseball bat to bash their way forward
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<every authoritarian government on earth and in human history>
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Companies like Pornhub actually have strick controls to actually protect children with their anti-CP policies.
To be fair, that's a more recent thing. It had some terrible content in the past. Then around 2020 that got some publicity so Visa, Mastercard and Discover all threatened blacklist them if they didn't start moderating properly.
Although your point still stands, the whole "Wont somebody think of the children!?!11" lamentation is a dead giveaway. And I'm sad that more people don't realize.
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I was an active user of pornhub when I was 14 years old
I was a teenager before the modern internet, so at 14 I got my porn from BBSes and friends sharing floppy disks. There was plenty of awful/illegal shit on BBSes. But they weren't regulated, so no one did anything about it.
You cannot ban teenagers from accessing porn. Full stop.
You can ban teenagers from using safe sites that follow the rules. That will force teenagers off responsible sites like PornHub and move them to shady sites that don't follow rules and have shit like child pornography.
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Parental responsibility? Plenty of resources on the internet to block adult sites at the router and on device. If that's to technical they can get device lockers and only let their kids use them in communal areas of the home and lock them up otherwise.
There are so many options for parents that actually care that the idea the only solution is a government nanny on the internet is the height of ridiculous.
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I didn't downvote but the reason is probably because you're blaming porn for your issues like it was only an issue because of your age.
If you became an addict because of porn at 14, not seeing porn until you're 18 wouldn't have changed anything, except delay that problem for 4 years. That's it. People don't just become addicts if they're only a certain age range, the problem is much deeper than that.
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Yes, it is okay for teenagers to watch porn. Pretty much everyone did, at least everyone I know. None of these people have any problems because of it. There certainly are people with unhealthy relationships to porn, but the same can be said about basically all things. You wouldn't ban video games because gaming addicts exist, would you?
A ban such as this only makes sense for things without any upside, like gambling. But exploring your own sexuality is a natural and healthy thing to do. Porn is an easy way to do that.
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There will always be a way to access it. The more they try to stop it, the less legal it becomes and the more illegal the content might become.
There is only one true solution and that is to hold parents accountable and to educate the kids on the risks. Everything else is just bullshit and only helps to destroy the privacy of adults.
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Why do you wish it was less accessible? I was in the same boat but I feel it was largely a source of sexual satisfaction and even education in some cases. And today I have many and very healthy relationships with women, just to preempt those questions.
Despite decades-long moral panic around this topic, I haven’t found much evidence for pornography harming young people, maybe aside from some niche issues that are not well-addressed with this type of legislation.
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Tell us how your guilt and shame forces you to make decisions for others.
- do you think it'll make you feel better about yourself?
- if rules must be made so you feel better about your choices, can we enforces rules on you when it would make us feel better about ourselves?
This is a strange matrix of control you're suggesting, and I want to understand it.
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If porn does any damage to the psyche, surely it's less than videos you can find showing torture and murder, right? At least in porn, people are shown having a good time. I'll also note that no porn is burned into my brain, but there are sure some other videos that are.
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(Just light headed talk here) because I was born before internet, I remember the first porn magazine I saw (at 11, I think), the first porn magazine I bought (at 14, because fuck the rules) and the first porn film I watched (at 13 because my father had a video store). Those are definitely burned in my brain.
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Yeah, I remember watching scrambled TV for hours waiting for the few brief seconds it came in clear.
It only happened twice but it is also seared into my brain.
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I can't deny that there are both awful violent videos and excellent porn burned into my brain. (Shouting out you, Scarlet Chase, Alexis Texas, and Anna Claire Clouds)
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There is a certain video about some people and a cup burned into memory, but that video wouldn't be found on the sites owned by Pornhub, but more the shitty alternative sites who will never comply with rules and regulations.
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While consuming porn your body is producing the feelgood hormones, like dopamine, just like every other drug, including social media. Do it often enough and your brain gets used to it, and can't do without.
And it's just as harmful. Have a look at "Your brain on porn" which is a book about problematic porn consumption, but can be expanded to every other dopamine creating vice out there.
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Wait, we aren't supposed to have daily dopamine?
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This is Wikipedia on the guy who started the site:
Wilson argued, counter to relevant experts in the subject, that porn addiction is a public health issue,[11] and said it led to negative effects such as depression and erectile dysfunction.[13] According to Jason Winters, a lecturer on human sexuality in the department of psychology at the University of British Columbia "There is no research showing that Internet pornography causes mental disorders — none".[14]
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There's people with addictive tendencies and such without / with less of them. That said, your generic statement is bullshit. Many people can enjoy porn frequently without any addiction symptoms.
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Just educate kids on sex. The sites from Pornhub are way better than the virus filled alternatives with way worse kinds of porn.
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I remember going on sketchy sotes to get logins and passwords to log into even sketchier porn sites.
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Are we not doing “Phrasing!” anymore?
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And can be driven starting at 16 years old
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If they wanted parental controls they'd use the ones already available and ask their ISPs to provide additional and more accessible ones per SIM card, per contract (though manually setting up limitations on each device works better and should suffice). Mandatory age and ID verification for websites is an authoritarian policy through and through, and goes far past anything that would protect children in any way (in fact, it would harm them).
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It's kinda weird seeing this from Germany: Around here porn websites always required a proper age check ("are you 18" banners don't suffice), which in effect means that the few porn sites that are hosted in Germany are paid (if you're paying, an age check is trivial). That doesn't mean that the rest is inaccessible, but it certainly doesn''t have a .de TLD. It's just how laws written for the offline age translated to online.
What's stopping pornhub from having a similar strategy in France? Continue to accept French IPs for the international version, paywall the French version.
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What's stopping pornhub from having a similar strategy in France? Continue to accept French IPs for the international version, paywall the French version.
Pornhub is ideologically against having to collect and verify data on their users for the government. They block traffic in all areas that pass these kinds of laws as a protest.
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Rare corporate W.
Edit: I take that back. Apparently, they want device level verification
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Doesn't seem like a real requirement if Pornhub and similar sites can get away with their "only click if you're 18"-banners just the same. Making a distinction between sites hosted inside Germany and outside Germany doesn't seem like smart lawmaking to me.
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It's also "sites directed at a German audience", but using that as a justification for DNS bans is rare. I guess practically more relevant is that German google isn't serving up those international sites.
German law doesn't require 100% security when it comes to youth protection stuff, not only would that be impossible but it's also not the intent, because once kids are old enough to actively seek something out, they're by and large old enough to consume it. What youth protection really cares about is not having kids just stumble over things they have no reference frame for.
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Pulling out 🤭
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Pornhub Is Pulling Out of France
So, Coitus Interruptus?
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One day porn will have to be made by two friends with a tripod, a camera and a couch. They'll have to edit their own video and share it ptp. People will go to state sales trying to buy old hard drives to try to locate classical bdsm porn and rare gangbang art work.
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Dial-up BBS’s watching GIFs download at 2400 baud?
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Aylo was purchased by private equity firm Ethical Capital Partners in 2023, whose partner Solomon Friedman told reporters in a call Tuesday that the law is “ineffective” and “dangerous,” noting concerns over privacy. “It’s a matter of putting our values first, and that means communicating directly with the French people to tell them what their government is refusing to tell them,” Friedman said, according to Politico.
Despite the name, of course they would be against this. I mean they are right in their reasoning, but laws like these will hurt their revenue as well, which might as well be the reason for their stance on this after all.
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Yeah, this is 100% self-preservation. The article says they are in favor of age verification but want it done at the device level which is a much larger threat to privacy.
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Depends on how it is done. You know those 2FA fobs that just pass a code every 30 seconds, right? What if you made some kind of fob or chip that you can only get from the government when you are 18+ (here in NL that would be easy because most things are 18plus locked) then if you could use that for online gambling, porn, buying alcohol online, etc. it wouldn't be linked to your person. If the government doesn't keep track of who has which fob/card. Which is easy to check if you get an accountant to do a formal audit on them, keeping track or not. I know PureVPN had done an audit like that checking if they kept themselves on their own no logs policy.
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How is this going to work? They'll ban all French IPs?
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Yes. They already do this to some states in the USA that have similar laws.
VPNs get around this just fine.
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That's what I thought. What a dumb law.
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