The average American voter

Unironically thoughts this was an onion thing

This is the moderate suburban voter Chuck Schumer thinks about while touching himself. He envisions this guy waving at the Baileys as they collect their morning papers before going back inside to live their isolated insulated ignorant lives full of bovine bliss.
- He envisions this guy waving at the Baileys
  I've been wondering for years now:
  Who are the Baileys?
  Who or what is Big Structural Bailey?
  Why is it the same name as a woman I dated in college??
  
  Baileys are a part of early medieval european castles
  Big Structural Bailey was a particularly big castle
  Are you sure you didn't date a castle?
- I wish reporters in DC weren't just empty human husks who work as dead-eyed stenographers. I wish one of them would get Schumer to put his guard down and then they'd ask him if the Baileys support Schumer's position on Israel.
  "Do they support my position on Israel? Of course they do! Of course they do! Now, listen, the Baileys are gentiles - excuse me - more politely 'they aren't Jewish'. But when Mr. Bailey goes to bible study..."

If they truly think we have to pay off our debt in order to fund healthcare, feed the poor, fund education etc. why don't we just execute the tiny percent of people who own that debt or just cancel it? Same result either way right?
By defunding these programs to pay off our debt, we are effectively killing and brutalizing millions. I think my solution is more humane.

was right. People have this weird unshakeable belief about debt.
- People have this weird unshakeable belief about debt.
  When I watch a man on the street interviewer and the interviewee says about the United States "We are living beyond our means." - I want to reach into the screen and strangle him to death. I think a huge percentage of Americans think that household debt is the same as national debt. It's a myth that will never die.
  One day I opened a tab and started watching CNN. Jake Tapper was the host at that hour but I decided to keep the tab open. Within about a minute a guy on his panel said something like "The US has a lotta debt. And you know how it is when you owe a lotta money—" and I closed the tab. For fuck's sake. I've heard such stuff before on MSNBC too. And nobody ever points out it's 100% wrong.
  
  I'm not so sure it's a myth that will never go away. Polls show that almost nobody cared about national debt until the 70s, when there was a concerted effort by the neoliberals of the world to use it to squeeze more surplus from the working class and the global south.
  As easy as this myth took root, another can. It's a matter of effort/organization.
- That's what I have been saying for like 20 years when the subject of taxing the rich comes up. "They'll just move somewhere else." Yeah okay seize what assets we can and Seal Team 6 their asses if they don't get the hint. What are they going to do, move to a country where we can't extra judicially kill them? Russia? Like Russia won't take a shit ton of their wealth in protection money. They're gonna live on the run? Hiding? With their piles of money like Pablo Escobar? Get real. They want the life wealth affords them. Without the high society garish bullshit the money isn't worth it. They won't choose to be international pariahs. They'll balk. Call their bluff and see who blinks first.
- Everyone really really really should read Debt: The Fist 5000 Years
  
  "Debt: The Fist"
  A new anime series comming to, hexbear dot net, this fall.
  
  Doing that now with some online friends for a book club
- Debt cannot be destroyed, only transferred. Like the curse ailment in Dark Souls.

when you pay teachers shit and make their jobs miserable, this is what you end up with: well groomed & college educated but incoherent bozos that made it to 35 with no DUIs or drug charges.
everybody else burns out. all that's left are these inscrutable maniacs on a mission from God to do spread those hungry, hungry brain worms.
- a mission from God
  The only time that's ever been good.
  
  I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
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Where the fuck do these wild ass ideas come from?? Like what you fucking thought Trump was going to use tariff income to fund a UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE SYSTEM as a fucking republican!?!? And this fucker is a fucking teacher who's brain is clearly suffering from early onset dementia and lead poisoning, cuss again why do these idiots keep thinking all these socialist policies are suddenly going to arrive when they weren't even promises in the first place???
- Like what you fucking thought Trump was going to use tariff income to fund a UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE SYSTEM as a fucking republican!?!?
  This is exactly as reasonable as thinking the Democrats would do it.
  
  True as well but it's even funnier/sadder when a republican thinks his party is gonna do it as well

The Midwest is full of guys like this
Think they know economics, foreign relations, climate science
What they don't know could fill all the empty factories in the Rust Belt

American Voters: We have to run the country like a business
Also American Voters: picks the guy with a repeated string of bankruptcies and failed scams to his name
Also also American Voters: Sorry we can't have anything nice right now, all the money's gone
- Its hilarious how many people don't realize that's such a terrible idea.
  Layoff millions of workers so the company is bare bones functioning.
  Company no longer functions smoothly, pass off its debt to the shell company..
  Sell it off to a sucker for billions..
  Workers get nothing, ceos get golden parachute..
  Whoops.
  
  For sale, one country, lightly used, low mileage.

“It’s a good idea to try,” Dave Abdallah said, referring to the new tariffs against other nations. They were bold, he felt, and he was a fan of daring action. “Why can’t we charge them with the same thing to get them to either lower theirs, or stop a lot of products from being imported into the United States?” Mr. Abdallah said.
The idea that the tariffs that Trump have suggested are based on tariffs imposed by other nations seems to be pretty prevalent.
- based on tariffs imposed by other nations
  I'm not surprised a lot of people think that. Right-wing media pumps out Trump/GOP propaganda 24 hours a day. I dread what lead narrative story they're going create so they don't have to cover Trump's economic chaos. My hunch is they'll go with tired-and-true but juice it to 11. Like this...
  In  [insert city names]  there's been an explosion in  [type of crimes]  by  [foreign organized crime gang name 1 and gang name 2].
  That will also help explain why Trump needs to "crack down" on the "illegals". It's frightening to me because they just accept everything as gospel that they see on the teevee and everything they read on those right-wing sewer websites.
  
  I dread what lead narrative story they're going create so they don't have to cover Trump's economic chaos.
  Start a war. Blame economic situation on that.
  Pretty much every european country has managed to blame every "tough decision" on ukraine now for years.

This image very neatly explains why the empire is collapsing.

I want to turn Williston, North Dakota into the largest labor camp known to man and send the 100+ million idiots who think like this there.
- Tell them you need to put them in the labour camp to get the nation out of debt.

Reeducation camps can't save the national debt brainworm cretins. The one's ive met literally exist on another planet and refuse to address reality at all
- The state should just put their asses to work, say they can't pay them because muh national debt and see how long it takes for them to walk off (never).
  "Corvée is the most beautiful word in the English language"
- The best are the book of revelation doomsday types. Like why does it even matter then?

The drop in the stock market didn’t concern Mr. Hunter as much as it might others — he said he had no money invested in it. Still, he said he thought short-term pain would be tolerable if the United States was headed for a boom.
Well, yeah there's gonna be a boom as in an implosion - you stupendous dipshit. I wonder what he's teaching the kids.
- Creationism
- Unfortunately he teaches social sciences https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2022/11/04/henryville-tornado-memory-leads-indiana-teacher-to-help-in-uvalde/69557401007/
  
  Emphasis mine.
  Hunter has felt devastation before in Southern Indiana. An EF-4 tornado destroyed much of his community in Henryville in March 2012.
  [...]
  Memories from that tornado more than 10 years ago have left their mark on Hunter, who was a teacher at the school when it was destroyed. Now, he said, he wants to give back to devastated communities around the world.
  [...]
  [He started to run] toward his problems instead of away from them. The longtime coach founded Cornerstone Hoops, a nonprofit organization that aims to "use the great game of basketball to connect and provide hope for those we encounter." The organization is funded by donations that help Hunter travel the world to teach kids how to play the game along with Christian values.
  "I decided that this needed to be more about something other than basketball, it needed to be about helping others," he said recently. "I was at a church service and the preacher said that feeling you get where you believe that you should do something is called conviction, and I’ve ignored that a lot in my life.”
  Sure thing, fundie Trump voter. Sure thing.
- How does this allegedly well educated individual think a bank generates interest on his savings?

See, one day each year the government collects the money that grows in the money fields and it decides what to do with that money. This year, the government had a bad money harvest, so we had to get money from elsewhere. The money just comes and goes based on random things, it's definitely not that government spending is what creates money.
- No, no you see, the government gets money from taxes. Now where did the people get the money from to pay the taxes? Not important!
  
  They got it from their employers who create money in the same place they create jobs and innovation, duh!

My brother is a transit nerd with a disability who can't drive and follows a bunch of lib NIMBY urbanism dorks on YouTube and complains there's not enough public support for disabled people and bad public transit
He's a Trump supporter because sometimes POC service industry workers are rude to him sometimes and thinks the right is nicer (he's white).
- Do you think he'll realize his mistake when he's rounded up and sent to the camps with the rest of us undesirables?
  
  Eh, he's still white. Also his disability isn't really an immediately visibly apparent one.

Huh look what I found: https://coachperryhunter.blogspot.com/?m=1
- People laugh about the average voter but this blog is like the archetypal middle aged American white guy. Enlightened centrist (Republican). Intensely prideful. Involved in high school sports drama. I think this is probably the average amount of brain worms for someone his age.
  
  Voting is the USA'ian civic religion, to abstain from casting a ballot into the firey pits of Mt. Doom is absolute heresy!
- When I get asked that question I try to nicely say "none of your business".
  But I'll give you some insight.
  I'm anti-war.
  I'm anti changing children before they can make informed decisions.
  I am pro-life.
  I am pro adoption being cheaper.
  I am pro knocking down the national debt.
  I am anti-capital punishment.
  I am pro taking care of children at all ages.
  Now, I can tell you that if I voted against someone because they're not a good person, I'd never vote for anyone because if you believe everything that is coming out, they're both worthless.
  But sometimes.
  You hold your breath.
  and you vote.
  Vote ~~Blue~~ Red No Matter Who!
  
  I'm anti changing children before they can make informed decisions.
  So you support all children getting puberty blockers for free and automatically?
- Here' a very weird post.
  Projection
  Thursday, December 19, 2024
  Projection...
  I have been slandered and libeled...a lot.
  The main culprits are those that actually do what they claim I...do.
  At first, it made me very upset.
  Now, just a little as I watch the accusers do what they claim I do, over and over, and over.
  I will slowly get over it, but my reputation has been smeared enough that many people from outside think differently of me.
  Look...you will see that nothing exists that they claim, yet they do.
  Projection...
  There's no way to leave a comment.
  
  What a strange post...
  
  According to the little press release he quoted, he only got banned from coaching for a year. I'd like to think that if they thought he was actually a pedo, it'd be more like a permanent ban and criminal charges...
- Donald Trump regained the White House last night.
  And people on the Left are responding accordingly.
  USA is racist.
  USA is sexist.
  USA is a terrible place.
  If you're happy, you're privileged.
  No looking inside.
  No accepting responsibility.
  It is his follower's and the countries fault.
  They charged him with crimes that they've committed.
  They tried to keep him off the ballot for what they've done.
  They've called him fascist.
  They've called him Hitler.
  They've called him unfit.
  They removed their democratically elected nominee for someone who was not a good candidate.
  It is their fault.
  Quit doing things for your benefit and when it explodes in your face, blaming the other side.
  I pray he does a good job, but methinks it is just more division for four more years.
  Sigh....
  Yes, it is the left who isn't looking inside and accepting responsibility. \s
  
  Oh yeah, remember when 'the left' chose Kamala Harris?
  Also, what is it with incoherent political screeds and them ending it with 'sigh'? It's such a cliche at this point.

even left leaning libs will consider themselves 100% right on this.

This is the implicit idea reinforced every time Americans talk about “taxpayer dollars”: they’re trained to believe that money is somehow created out of nothing by wealthy capitalists, and that the US federal government can only keep running as long as it gets enough “investment” from “taxpayers”. They believe the government owes the poor nothing and what little it provides them is charity, because “it wasn’t their taxes that paid for it”. They’re indignant every time the government does something they don’t personally like because they believe it has a fiduciary duty to “taxpayers” (themselves) over anything else like a publicly traded company has a fiduciary duty to shareholders.
- labor happens in labor land and has nothing to do with whether the country functions or not

Least brainwashed American socialist

How does an educator see tariffs as anything other than a regressive tax to steal even more from poor consumers?!
Good grief.
- I'm going to sound like a lib but they're in a cult. Whatever Trump believes - however irrational however illogical however nonsensical - they believe too.