4d ago

J.D. Vance lashes out at Denmark: 'Not a good ally'

www.bt.dk J.D. Vance langer ud efter Danmark: 'Ikke en god allieret'

»Donald Trump ville selvfølgelig have en anden tilgang, hvis han var Grønlands leder,« siger vicepræsidenten.

In an interview with Fox News Sunday, J.D. Vance that “it is possible” that the United States will take over Greenland.

At the same time, Donald Trump's vice president is lashing out at Denmark.

“There’s something that I think a lot of people don’t understand about Greenland. This is really important for our national security.”

“There are seaways that the Chinese and Russians use, and frankly, Denmark, which controls Greenland, does not do its job. It's not a good ally," J.D. Vance for Fox News.

“So you have to ask yourself how we should solve that problem, solve our national security, and if that means that we have to take more territorial interests in Greenland, that’s what President Trump will do, because he doesn’t care what the Europeans are crying out to us. He cares to put the interests of the American people first," J.D. continues. Vance.

The vice president of the United States also highlights another point that “people are not aware of.”

“There are probably 55,000 people living in Greenland who are not actually happy with the Danish government,” J.D. Vance.

“They have great natural resources there, they have an incredibly rich country that the Danes don’t let them develop and explore.”

"Donald Trump, of course, would have a different approach if he was Greenland's leader," the vice president said.

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The words "piss-stained lying sack of shit" are thrown around a lot these days.
- ...in some cases with an abundance of merit.

There’s something that I think a lot of people don’t understand about America. They're currently making a lot of unwise economic decisions and destabilizing the world. They're not a good ally.
So you have to ask yourself how we should solve that problem, solve our national security, and if that means that we have to invade the USA, that’s what [insert country here] should do. (Plus we can take their resources.)
- I'd love to be liberated by Denmark
  
  Not the worst choice. They're the second-happiest country in the world. They have freedom, look down on bigotry. They have nice pastry...
- "There are probably 330,000,000 people living in The United States who are not actually happy with the American government,” J.D. Vance fails to admit.
- The second the US attempts to take Greenland we’ll be sanctioned to oblivion by the treaty we helped create. It’s beyond humiliating, but absolutely necessary.
  
  I certainly hope this is just big talk of a delusional megalomaniac who wants to be emperor and some vice president with an intellectual impairment chiming in to either please him and lick boots, or because this is some elaborate strategy to spread fear and ask way too much, and then get a better "compromise". But yeah, sad to see the civilized world becoming smaller. I hope we stay strong, don't give in and in the end the good will prevail. We're going to find out either way.

Day one: Greenland loses universal healthcare and their entire social safety net.
You would have to be dumber than a republican to be a Greenlander who supports United States taking over.
- And all 55.000 are sent to the mines

Jesus that’s some scary dictator / aggressor ready talk, holy crap.
- We're either going to see the EU/NATO lay flat while USA takes territory, or we're going to see USA annex and invade EU territory and be met with war.
  Probably the former, but it won't be good.
  Vance is also intentionally ignoring the fact that 85% of Greenlanders were negative to Americans seizing their country. He throws out the unhappy 55,000 Greenlanders speculation as if they haven't already been asked about the situation directly. He does not care what the Greenlanders think, he just wants to seize Greenland.
  
  It's the same rhetoric that Russia has used to annex land. "They aren't happy, the people voted and supported us" and "they have always been Russian, the land was Russia's historically. We are just taking our land back"
  
  Honestly I hope we'll see neither of those scenarios but in the hypothetical event of a US invasion, the EU project would fall apart if it wasn't met with a direct answer.

The amount of FUD is insane and I’m afraid people are gonna eat it all right up!
https://www.berlingske.dk/politik/new-poll-shows-overwhelming-majority-of-greenlanders-reject-trump
Only 6 percent of Greenlanders want to leave the Danish Realm in favour of the US, and 9 percent are undecided.
The US can just build more bases in Greenland, instead of closing them down. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pituffik_Space_Base
I don’t think this is about national security. This is about exploiting the natural resources in Greenland.
- It's fascist imperialism, because the US is a fascist dictatorship now, and should be treated as such.
  
  The US is on a anti-democratic trajectory. But no, calling it a dictatorship, at this moment, is wrong.
- Always has been, also for Denmark
- This is not about natural resources or national security, but Russian influence in the US government, and trying to normalize imperialism.
- That's ok, the ones who don't want to join will get deported as illegal immigrants once they barge in. That, or put into remote reservations in land nobody wants.
  
  "Dump em in a crevasse, it'll spit them out in 10, 20 years"

the Danes don’t let them develop and explore
Lmao, it's not the Danes that aren't letting the resources be explored, it's the Greenlanders themselves
- Yup. Rare earth minerals are profitable, but ecologically apocalyptic. They don't want their island to become an ecological disaster zone.
  
  They're not even profitable currently, given the arctic conditions. Greenland has been begging for outside investment for a decade, but it's just not viable.
  Ironically, the Danish state might have wanted to invest, but are bound by a clause in out cooperation agreement (Selvstyreloven) which forbids Denmark from investing more in Greenland than they did when the agreement was signed in 2009. This clause was insisted on by the Greenlandic parliament, as they wanted to bind themselves to move more towards independence than cooperation with Denmark, but it's been a real problem when it comes to developing Greenland.
  Like, the trouble Denmark had to go to in order to build an more modern airport on Greenland....
  If we come away from this with our relationship intact (Greenland & Denmark), the Selvstyrelov needs to be renegotiated to allow more Danish investment into Greenlandic infrastructure and business.

He keeps saying that USA has an interest in it because they have an interest in it.
There's no reasoning except for daddy Trump saying he wants it.
- Well he did mention the resources..
  
  The resources have not been mined because it's not financially feasible, yet.
  China who are otherwise masters of long term planning discarded the idea about 15 years ago. They wanted to invest in Greenland by building airports and make a transport hub on Greenland for both cargo and passengers in exchange for mining permissions. They backed out because it's simply not a good business.
  Despite the ice melting, it's going to take a long time for it to be worth the effort. Perhaps 30-50 years or so, assuming they're still worth anything in the future and if transport can be done cheaply by boats. Donald Trump would be long gone by then anyway.

God, these fucking American politicians are the definition of vomit.
Fuckoff Vance.

Sorry who is this person?
- A weasel that likes hiding in couches.
- The one who likes to fuck his couch

Bro, in the US-Denmark relationship, you're saying WITH A STRAIGHT FACE that DENMARK is the problematic one? Bro.

What happens if a NATO member invades another NATO members territory?
- Technically “an attack on one is an attack on all” would apply still, since the us would be attacking. Though I doubt the actual agreements are written so simply.
- I think the closest thing to an example we have is the direct conflict between Turkey and Greece, though that occured over Cyprus which isn't NATO territory.
  
  The "conflict" being Greece was run by a fascist junta that couped the Cyprian government in an annexation attempt, and Turkey fought back the way NATO should have done against the junta from the start.
  (And then tried to keep it for themselves, as you do)
- I think that’s the reason why NATO members have been at peace with each other since it started.

Kid that wants to take everyone else's toys, after being told no by a grown-up: "I hate you! You're not my friend anymore!"

They are not doing their country right, so we have to take it over and fix it, says nation where eggs are prohibitively expensive.

O no the 55k people not happy. How about the tens of millions in murica that are not happy or can Canada start taking those northern states?

As an American citizen I can say that this dipshit freak only speaks for the dumbest among us. This guy's daddy is going to make America lose all its allies. So I don't think this loser should be talking about this subject.

What does the bit about the sea lanes even mean? What does he think the Danish are supposed to be doing?
- As global warming increases the waters around Greenland will become more important strategically.
- Violate UNCLOS obviously.

As an European citizen, I prefer having Danish people as friend than US ones right now (and maybe for the next 4 years)... Reliable friends are always better than unreliable ones...

Annexing land for mineral/energy interests, claimed as a security concern... I guess Putin is so far up Trump's ass we can hear him speaking now.

Denmark might not be a good ally to the US in Mr Vance's bigoted little mind, but for what the US are to Denmark and Greenland, there is a far better term describing a state that wants to annex another state's territory: Enemy.

And this should explain very well, what the US understands to be an "ally".

Shut up Vance. Nobody cares what the vice says.
- The Musk cuck wants attention too hahaha

So, just because some residents aren't happy with Denmark, that means they would be happy with the USA? Lol.

I sincerely hate snow. It's boring. It's white. The sun reflecting off it can burn your retinas. It's wet. You have to wear your entire wardrobe, at the same time, and still be cold. It sticks to your face. It piles too high, you have to shovel it, just to start again, when you're just done.
But for this?
Get me a sled, a team of dogs and a club. I'm more than willing to go to Greenland and stand against the american invader to defend my fellow european.
Can I get to sample that weird cured shark while I'm there? Or am I getting my references mixed up?
- The weird shark is an Iceland thing, although confusingly it is made from Greenland shark. It's called hákarl
  
  I apologize for the confusion. The animals are also endangered, to what I know, right?
  So... what else can I sample in Greenland? I'm fond of unusual cullinary.

Oh yeah, forgot about this guy. As did everybody else.

Denmark needs nukes
- But what would the Swedes do when the little pond freezes over next time!?

We need European armed forces for yesterday
- These next few decades will suck at least as much as the ones 100 years ago.
  I get the feeling we'll let the fascists win this time.