The fact that this is a real image is infuriating
The fact that this is a real image is infuriating
20-01-2025. This is a real image
The fact that this is a real image is infuriating
20-01-2025. This is a real image
"MildlyInfuriating"
Nah, this belongs in "ActuallyHorrifying"
Yeah I figured we had a year or two at least before slowly taking off the mask and showing the true fascism. This was just right out of the gate.
The mask has been slowly coming off for at least 15 years. If you haven’t noticed and this seems like a surprise, I honestly don’t know what to say.
The nazis are wasting no time gloating.
Why not? There's been no penalty. No widespread social ostracizing, no legal justice, no political punishment... This is who they are, and enough Americans are okay with that that they don't have to pretend otherwise.
I guess don't visit the new https://www.whitehouse.gov/ then.
Is that a fucking movie trailer? Wtaf
I wish I could say we just gotta wait 4 years but I wouldn't believe if I said it. The US is past a fucking joke. Just... Fucking dammit...
Jebus.
Can we just go to the old whitehouse.com?
You know what the worst part of this is? This run of western fascism doesn't even have the aesthetics to make it palatable. That "seig heil" was so fucking uncoordinated it made the Australian break dancing lady look like a prima ballerina. Everyone is dressed like they bought clothes from the bargain bin at Ross. The decorations are giving mid-budget state fair.
We're gonna be ethnically cleansed by old, poorly dressed, unatheltic losers 😭
I feel like the worst part of this was the ADL defended him.
The ADL calling the keffiyeh a symbol for antisemitism while defending Elon "throwing his heart to the audience" solidifies what many progressives have already known about them.
Lol, of course they did. It's not like he called for a free Palestine or anything
We’re gonna be ethnically cleansed by old, poorly dressed, unatheltic losers 😭
Specifically because they have accumulated so much wealth that they can pay people to do terrible things in seemingly unterrible ways.
People forget that a large portion of the original Nazis were hardened WWI vets, not soft plutocrat tech bros.
Nah, there's gonna be bodies on both sides if they think they're gonna try any of that shit. Something the KKK Nazi Russian Mafia lover fucks forgot, they aren't the only ones packing heat.
My biggest fear now, is the Republicans trying to do something so outrageous, that someone of some importance finally fucking snaps. And there's a legitimate coup. Like Military action on Panama or Greenland, that is legitimate civil war sparking stuff.
I think the cheap decorations were on purpose. All that money for his inauguration and he's going to pocket as much as possible. So Tim Cook, Schmuckerburg, and whoever else that donated $1 million EACH to his fund, and they're going to skimp on as much as possible and cut as many corners as possible so he can put that money in the bank. Don't forget there are several cities and organizations that he still hasn't paid for his rallies.
He pocketed $170 million today
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/corporate-donors-trump-inauguration-1.7430028
Schmuckerburg is a great name omg
TBH they will probably send their murder drones to do the dirty work.
We're going to have to develop anti-drone tactics.
Hugo Boss is still around, I'm sure they would be willing to reprise their previous role 👍🏻
Fashion 2: Electric Boogaloo
Palatable fascism based on looks?
Yeah. Fuck this take. You're watering it down and fuck that viewpoint.
Both the censorship and promotion of specific art and aesthetics were a big part Hitler's plans to make fascism palatable in Germany and Italy, if you take one art history course you'd know this. Many public works you can tour to this day in those countries come from that era.
This isn't a support of fascism, it's a critique on how empty and vapid the new technocratic class is and how that's a reflection of our society in general at this moment.
He did a second one that seemed far more coordinated in terms of its posture.
Is this supposed to be funny, or are you a bot trying to normalize how fucked up this is?
Calling me a bot for a dark observation when I clearly state I'm one of the people slated to be in line for the ethnic cleansing sure is a choice. But I'll explain my reasoning and give you the good faith you didn't give me.
Art and aesthetics were a big part of Nazi Germany. Many Nazi Party Germans got to look at beautiful works of art and enjoy public works in the Greco-Roman style as they were supporting shipping of Jewish people and minorities to concentration camps. The technocrats this time around haven't even given their supporters that. Instead we get infighting and outrage on social media.
That's what my comment was making fun of.
Looked this up as I optimistically thought it might be an unfortunate still that looked nothing like a nazi salute on video, but nope.
Well, he must have fallen out of the headlines for a day.
I'm calling it, to keep outdoing himself he's going to openly and seriously start suggesting nuking things.
I am actually speechless.
he adds "my heart goes out to you", so it was actually just Elon being really fucking stupid again
Here's a gif
I litterly followed the same train But bro it's undeniable
Gotta love the Murdoch media...
If he did it once, sure could be argued to be accidental, but he did it pretty forcefully, multiple times, and he baaaaarely has plausible deniability that he didn't mean this as a wink wink to the neo-nazis.
Just... blatant. Plenty of time lingering on it. No cute pretending-to-fix-the-hair. Just an obvious, blatant nazi salute.
what was he saluting when he turned around? Trump? I cant find a better angle.
He's saluting the crowd for their support
Some of the audience was behind him. He just really wanted to get the message across 😒
I wish. 😞
What was the context, in terms of his speech? Did he say something right before this or after it?
"Thank you. My heart goes out to you. It is thanks to you that the future of civilization is assured, thanks to you." - Elon Musk
Then he did the seig heil salute. Just in case people are still confused, here's Hitler's own words from Mein Kampf on saving civilization.
"All the great civilizations of the past became decadent because the originally creative race died out, as a result of contamination of the blood." - Hitler
What a dumb fucking cunt. I hope he dies a terrible death. Rather sooner than later.
Let's hope somebody pulls a Luigi one.
The world would be an objectively better place if someone took this subhuman scum out. Half a fucking trillion dollars and it's still not enough for him. These scumbags always need more and more.
I'm betting on an overdose. Ketamine, cocaine, amphetamine... whatever the shit is, I'm not an expert.
Can we get him to hire Micheal Jackson's old doctor?
Ideally in his malfunctioning Tesla for chefs kiss
Remember when everyone hated on regular Russian citizens for not forming a rebellious revolution against Putin and assassinating him in his sleep? For not shooting every Russian oligarch and everyone who rubber stamped the invasion of Ukraine? Remember when people called them cowards and “as good as nazis” for being complacent and not getting up and doing something about it?
Where are you keyboard warriors now that the USA needs you?
Just sayin’
Welp! I didn’t have “President gives Nazi salute” on my bingo card…
You didn't?
He's not the president.
So people told me I was being an overdramatic dick when I pointed the multiple similarities between the rise of Hitler and Trump and how the Nazis are coming back.
They're back, out and disgustingly proud.
I'll be showing them the footage and awaiting their bullshittery gymnastics. Wonder how they will spin it.
In the meantime while everyone is looking at Elon Donald is signing executive orders to
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/20/us/politics/trump-executive-orders-list.html
Bro, where have you been?
And trump saying elon rigged the ballots in Pennsylvania. Even if it were true it's exactly what I've been saying. We are done with free and fair elections and the sooner you dweeebs stop running to the dems to save you the better off we will be.
the sooner you dweeebs stop running to the dems to save you the better off we will be.
Yeah let me just vote for.... oh wait there's only 2 god damn parties.
Third parties aren’t an answer and will only strengthen republicans. The only possible course is to steer the democrats out of the ditch. Unfortunately they have built a masonry bunker down in there and this will take some doing. We need about 20-30 more young people to do what AOC did and we’ll be getting somewhere.
Bernie Sanders ran as a Democratic socialist.
The real rigging wasn't at the polls, Democratic and Independent poll watchers didn't report any significant election irregularities.
The real rigging was via unlimited billionaire funds to fill the media with propaganda (see Firehose of Falsehood), exacerbated by voter roll purges.
Why even manipulate the vote count itself, when you can just effectively brainwash the voters themselves via unlimited propaganda.
I didn't claim that it was. Trump is signaling his intention, though. He's going to let the liberal media work themselves up about how you cannot rig elections then do just that. Sorry you're so nieve to not understand how this works yet. Good luck to you.
I'm not American, so I'm all words and no action in this case. But yeah, we're all sensing the dread coming from your side of the pond. The tension is so high, you're basically a camel with the biggest amount of straws on it's back that I've ever seen. And there's a new straw every week.
It's an avalanche of straws at this point it's pretty wild honestly.
the sooner you dweeebs stop running to the dems to save you the better off we will be.
Fucking THANK YOU. Been saying this since 2016.
I gave them the benefit of the doubt for 8 years. 8 fucking years. To see their performance during the last election. For me lending them all my support and walking away with nothing to show for it. Trump back in office and the party still coalescing around some of their most inept members after being so badly defeated in every way shape and form. It's pathetic. Also it doesn't matter anymore. Moving forward we should expect elections won't be free or fair. If there is a way out it's not through any available route and a new path will have to be made.
not mildly infuriating. it's very infuriating
Seriously, I'm actually pacing I'm so fucking pissed. Dude throws two heils with conviction and everyone there just claps and chears?
Frustrating but predictable.
Personally I'm pretty happy with how fucking awkward Elon was while doing it. The whole gif is really cringe.
It's a long way to 2026 folks. We are going to have a lot of Federal Level damage in the next couple of years. Even if Democrats get elected in 2026+ we will have absurd debts to pay and likely be forced to raise taxes and be the bad guy again.
You do know it isn't mandatory to let it happen, right?
Seriously, we do not have to abandon our right to revolution
americans abandoned that a long time ago.
You do know it isn't mandatory to let it happen, right?
Did anyone tell the DNC? Because they're sure as hell ACTING like it is..
Seriously, we do not have to abandon our right to revolution
A couple weeks late now. For a popular revolt facing an overwhelming power imbalance, you need to rely on anyone in government being squeamish about massacring civilians.
The new government would rather kill a thousand innocent people than concede the God-Emperor ever being wrong about anything, and the new Senate minority would rather let them than violate procedural norms.
Ah yes, wait for the do nothing democrats to save you, that sounds like a totally viable plan 🙄
Ever think about what’s in the middle of a swastika?
Why is it backwards
Because dude isn't up and familiar with Nazi stuff. Normal people don't care to know.
I didn’t notice. I don’t know, it’s the first one in DuckDuckGo search lol
I watched the clip assuming this was taken way out of context, nope, he did it twice...
he has an amazing ability to be incredibly rizzless. can't even pull off a nazi salute without looking like an absolute dork
That was the first one, and then another one a few seconds later. Nothing accidental here.
Don't forget the second one he threw immediately afterward
Everyone smiling, cheering in the background. EVERYONE ! 😬 !
Where are all the people that said calling the MAGA people NAZIs was disregarding the history of "real NAZIs" ?
Where are all those MFers now ?
They are busy responding to other comments on other social media saying saying "It's because he is autistic, he was just stimming" or "He was showing how his heart goes out to them" or "It's totally just the Roman solute, learn your history bro"
"Noooo bro, it's not a Nazi salute. He did something that looks exactly the same and with the same intention, but it's not a Nazi salute."
10000000%
I'm p sure they're all still stewing and complaining about the people who weren't motivated to vote for a Republican campaign led by a Democrat.
Ngl, I was sceptical since still images are not a good representation of what's really going on when people are moving around, but then I checked out the video. Good lord, he even did it twice.
I think this was a distraction. Trump already started the policies.
As always, the smokescreen strategy. But both facts are actually pretty disturbing
if drowning out other things was the intention, its probably working
that same image is in 6 of the top 10 posts on lemmy rn
What an insufferable twat. (Donald)
Who’s that and what’s the context
N.B. : from a removed post ( in which that comment was ) since the post was based on a photograph and that it was posted in /c/WorldNews ... which does not allow post if it is not linked to a news article ... :::
I'm austrian, and i have seen better nazi salutes by drunk edgy teenagers in the 90s. Are you americans in here sure he actually knows how a nazi salute should look like or do all of the Y'all Quaeda first grip their steroid induced mantits before they half-dab?
This and what Putin's presidency turned out to become in the long run is what I now happen to imagine largely felt like to witness the Nazis rise to power.
You just don't know what's coming before it's actually there. The historical evidence even shows that the Nazis weren't that out-of-touch with reality at first, at least in terms of what was largely acceptable back in their day - like rights to land, borders, with many countries and nations being in a very turbulent state after the first World War. It's only after they got the power and set up the frameworks, like gradually oppressive laws and manipulating opinions and values through propaganda, that they went to do what we ultimately associate them with.
Putin spoke very high of "the west" and democracy and such at first, but quickly showed his true self when the Kursk sank, then with Beslan (the Nord Ost), then many more times, but back in the day, without today's hindsight, it seemed so... plausibly deniable? Like people could just vote him out the next time or excuse some things with the same traumas and biases that still brewed in the generations born in or shorty after the USSR. Now a full-blown tyrant, modernized to dictate through deceit, looking wild compared to his first days - a proper example of boiling the proverbial frog; turning the dial little by little, either compounding into some greater evil or simply revealing its true self, both equally inconsequential in the end.
Trump and Musk, similarly, have for the most part been interesting characters, so bizarre that excepting anything more felt naive, beyond the realm of possible. And yet again, unless there is enough backlash early on, people like this will keep pushing, until they lead us to the edge.
I never wanted to see for myself how something so terrible can rise to power, seemingly past everyone's attention. It's dreadful to think that the lessons of history are bets learned on one's own mistakes, that the Germany's experience is not enough to generate the unrest that keeps such people out of power.
I'm not even on the same continent as these two, but I know they'll be influencing a whole lot of change around the world, change that will never benefit any way.
The more things change...
Wow, no ambiguity or anything. Jesus Fucking Christ
Wtf I was expecting that to be taken out of context or something. But nope, that's just a straight up Heil Hitler salute.
I'm not American, so I'm just now catching up with what happened over there yesterday. The first time I saw this image (elsewhere), I was praying that this was AI-generated. And I hate seeing AI-generated stuff and I'm not religious either. I still wish it was AI but now I know it's not and... jesus christ.
So this is how I'm gonna get radicalized huh
I expect the American pro-Israel politicians who threw hissy fits for «free Palestine» slogans to take appropriate stances for a literal fucking nazi salute on Inauguration day.
Of course also the Israeli government, the German government, etc.
Come on, you fucking assholes. Dare you fucking speak up?
The ADL is already fucking apologizing on his behalf and saying he was just being "Enthusiastic" and then went on to say “In this moment, all sides should give one another a bit of grace, perhaps even the benefit of the doubt, and take a breath. This is a new beginning. Let’s hope for healing and work toward unity in the months and years ahead,”
Absolutely spineless fucking cowards, the lot of them.
They are friend. All they care is taking that land and other thing ain't matter to them.
Why would they, I'd be surprised if Israel didn't admire the Nazis. They're certainly doing their best to emulate them.
He kissed the wall, Trump will do shit like this to feed his ego while sending weapons to Israel to feed the war economy.
Fuck Trump, Elon, the other oligarchs, and all of the short-sighted moronic voters and non-voters who put them back in power.
This may not be what America wants, but this is what Americans deserve for being so fucking stupid.
Yeah that’s bad but I just feel sorry for the marine who got hit in the face with a flag and had his hat knocked back lol
Well, that's just poetic.
In Austria, he'd already be arrested... twice!
It is amazing people are still making excuses for this.
This won’t embolden white supremacists at all…
Mildly?
You know, like that irritating Mr. Hitler.