The National Hurricane Center says Milton is one of the strongest Atlantic storms on record. The Category 5 hurricane's winds are 180 mph. Hurricane warnings are now in effect for parts of Florida. Here’s the latest. - Videos from The Weather Channel | weather.com
So apparently we are now in the find out of the fuck around part of climate change. My only question is if Florida is still going to retain it's electoral votes once it's fully submerged underwater?
that thing we relentlessly shouted and warned about and pointed to mountains of evidence of for 50+ years is finally manifesting in more destructive ways than our models could predict?
no, it is actually the democrats using cloud seeding technology to destroy a swing state a month before an election, in a bid to steal the presidency and enforce Kamalunism.
"Okay climate change was caused by us, so we're going to have to eradicate parts of our population to fix it."
I believe we're starting to see them move from point two to point three, though some of them are still insisting on one. When Florida is completely off the map and underwater, they'll start talking about point four.
And even then, only if it impacts the bottom line.
In the cold war, the Pentagon continually did calculations to see who would be better/worse off after a nuclear confrontation. There were people who thought that if the calculus favored the US at all that was enough to justify a nuclear war.
I've always suspected similar models have been used to calculate the impacts of climate change. Billions might die, but if it destabilizes China that's a worthy sacrifice to maintain US hegemony. Better to be king of a dying world than give up an iota of power.
Couple that with the corporate competitive death drive.
China out-developing the US might be the only real hope.
In the cold war, the Pentagon continually did calculations to see who would be better/worse off after a nuclear confrontation. There were people who thought that if the calculus favored the US at all that was enough to justify a nuclear war.
For Dr. Strangelove Kubrick got a lot of inspiration from the Rand Corporation and other ghoulish orgs and people who were pressing that concept. An example...
Herman Kahn (February 15, 1922 – July 7, 1983) was an American physicist and a founding member of the Hudson Institute, regarded as one of the preeminent futurists of the latter part of the twentieth century. He originally came to prominence as a military strategist and systems theorist while employed at the RAND Corporation. He analyzed the likely consequences of nuclear war and recommended ways to improve survivability during the Cold War.
Kahn posited the idea of a "winnable" nuclear exchange in his 1960 book On Thermonuclear War for which he was one of the historical inspirations for the title character of Stanley Kubrick's classic black comedy film satire Dr. Strangelove. In his commentary for Fail Safe, director Sidney Lumet remarked that the Professor Groeteschele character is also based on Herman Kahn. Kahn's theories contributed to the development of the nuclear strategy of the United States.
I believe he was the first person to use "scenario" in its modern meaning. He needed a way to describe the future in stories as if written by people in the future. He used scenarios to suggest that a nuclear war could be won.
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I just realized he was a shitposter for evil. He just made shit up to rationalize apocalyptic mass death, destruction, and suffering.
"Look, guys - if the Soviets kill x tens of millions of us but we kill y tens of millions of them - we win. Lemme explain..."
Idk if our current mode of production regardless where it’s being done really favours the environment though. I’ve read about swathes of the rainforest being cut down to mine minerals to build solar panels. We really need to rethink our relationship to technology and the earth if we want to avoid mass environmental destruction.
I think it's largely too late. When Germany is (maybe? If i read that right?) In the path of a hurricane we're facing something no one is ready for.
What I think is going to happen is that major population and industrial centers are going to be destroyed faster than they can be repaired or moved, which will create knock-on effects damaging the whole economic system. Like there will be one single vital doo-dad factory that supplies 90% of a critical doo-dad, it'll get flattened, and the doo-dad shortage will reduce the production of doohickeys by 30%, which will have it's own effects.
And meanwhile the us and gulf nations will have millions of utterly impoverished refugees fleeing from region to region ahead of storms and heat bubbles, swamping city and state resources while the feds try to find a way to means test cholera.
Many of the gulf states are already in horrible shape, and this new normal of very strong storms is going to beat them flat and send their people fleeing.
Just trying not to think much about what happens in the rest of the gulf where the economy is even worse than say mississippi. : (
Whenever some fellow Star Trek fan talks about how "Darmok" is unrealistic because they think nuanced meaning can't be derived from a simple phrase that requires broader context to understand, I just think of these emojis and memes in general. "Homer smiling, his finger raised." "Fry, his eyes narrowed." "Picard, face in hand." Once one knows the context then they become great ways to quickly convey complex thoughts.
Yeah, it's really just memes Audio Description Edition. Mofos act like they didn't spend their childhood repeating Family Guy and South Park quotes to each other.
that scene where troi is explaining to picard except instead of a mug with brown tea in it she should have used an early 21st century internet meme and asked 'well mr archeologist thefuck does this mean'
Honestly kinda wondering if there'll be any fallout on him regarding the upcoming devastation since there's very little to no actual funded prep for hurricanes in the state and insurance companies are likely going to go insolvent form this.
Unlikely, IMO. It's not so much that floridians can be made to believe that, actually, it's Biden's fault. It's that DeSantis' supporters will make the conscious choice to believe whatever they think is politically correct.
Is that because only three fifths of the state will not be submerged, or that each adult Floridian on average will have only three fifths of their own body above the water line?
I occasionally lurk on /r/collapse when big weather events crop up. (It's way too racist for me under other circumstances.) I just read a comment that Florida has only 27 hospitals listed as "level 1 trauma centers", the facilities most needed in these kinds of natural disasters. And guess where Tampa's only one is?
On an island barely above sea level, in Tampa Bay. There are two bridges onto that island, neither of them with any sort of wind barriers. There's an airport and some marina facilities but good luck making use of those in a hurricane.
If this were a movie I'd be laughing at the black comedy of it all.
Jesus I'm honestly wondering how many staff are even going to come to work? Like for real any nurse or doctor coming in knows they aren't going to get relief once that storm hits and likely will have to go well beyond 24hrs+ providing continual care (god help those working in the ICU or trauma bays...), at the same time if they leave they will get charged with patient abandonment possibly compromising their licenses.
If the nurses on staff are anything like the ones in my family, they'll probably plan to show up before the rough weather really hits and ride out the storm at the hospital to do what they can to help.
Some kind of masque of the red death shit where they build higher and higher walls to keep poor and people out and then a storm fills the walls with water.
glad to see the empire suffering the consequences too.
If the empire were to truly suffer, this would have sneaked up on Miami when the billionaires weren't watching. Or, at a minimum, hit Orlando before it hit Tampa Bay.