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'Is that a threat?' Trump stuns observers with comment about Harris voter 'getting hurt'

www.rawstory.com 'Is that a threat?' Trump stuns observers with comment about Harris voter 'getting hurt'

Donald Trump shocked observers on Sunday with a comment he made about a potential supporter of Vice President Kamala Harris at one of the former president's swing-state rallies. Trump, who has been accused of fostering violence that occurred on Jan. 6, 2021, gave a speech in Wisconsin over the w.....

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"Is there anybody here who's going to vote for lyin' Kamala?" Trump asked his rally attendees. "Actually, I should say don't raise your hand, it would be very dangerous. We don't want to see anybody get hurt. Please don't raise your hand."

Trump is fully aware that his supporters will engage in political violence, and that what he says (or refuses to say) has an impact on said violence. DoJ, take note for when he encourages another mob to engage in violence on his behalf and then acts like he wasn't doing exactly that.

Edit: In case I wasn't perfectly clear, this statement by Trump is admissible evidence that Trump knows that his speech is capable of encouraging violence, even something as otherwise harmless as "Is there anybody here who's going to vote for lyin' Kamala?"
- I'll be at my local polling place with my concealed Colt .45, with my AR in the truck.
  
  Let the red hats fuck around.
  
  Libs: Time to stop pointing fingers and clutching pearls. Be there! It will be wild!
  
  (I'm no badass, but I'm experienced, know the local laws and can shoot quite well enough. And I will be scared shitless, but I'll have some up-close conversations with anyone seeming to intimidate voters.)
  
  Please don't pull a Rittenhouse.
  
  Be careful about that. It’s not legal to conceal carry at a polling place in Florida even with a CCW. I’m not sure where you are but the gun laws in FL are relatively lax; so just double check before.
  
  Hell yeah. I'm in. I'm breaking out my gun and gonna march my ass proudly confidently all the way down to my mailbox on October 20th or so. Unless it's raining. Then like. Maybe the next day.
- "Is there anybody here who's going to vote for lyin' Kamala?" Trump asked his rally attendees. "Actually, I should say don't raise your hand, it would be very dangerous.
  
  They're at a Trump rally, of course they're all going to vote for Trump. The only reason to tell the non-existent people not to raise their hand is to normalize violence against the opposition.
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- They'll be doing the hurting
- Why don't you ever see Batman beating up Bruce Wayne?
  
  Split personality Batman who hates the rich would be amazing.
- “Some of those that burn crosses”
- Cheering him on
- Who do you think he's talking to?
- Cheering in the crowd
- Oh, Merrick is busy trying to get Trump re-elected for his Federalist society masters, you know… for tax cuts.
  
  Garland hasn’t been perfect on this but for quite a while it’s been the judiciary that’s been failing us.
- Liberals: ACAB!
  
  I know. Been there, done that. And I'm a white boy.
  
  Liberals: Fascists are taking over, right in our face!
  
  I'm well aware. Sometimes morals override personal safety. That is what it means to love your country.
  
  Liberals: Give up your guns and call the police!
  
  Well, now, hold up...
  
  I'm not sure what's up with the downvotes. I can't find a lie. Liberals don't like hearing it, but they need to have a working knowledge of firearms and firearm safety.
  
  You can't rely on the cops when shit hits the fan. They have looked the other way and ignored the aggressors before. We have to look after each other.
Stochastic Terrorism:

Stochastic terrorism is a form of political violence instigated by hostile public rhetoric directed at a group or an individual.
- You dropped the asterisk.
  
  *Except when Donald Trump does it. Then it's totes cool and legal.
A convict should watch his language regarding a former prosecutor. He hasn't been sentenced yet.
- Consequences when?
"Is there anybody here who's going to vote for lyin' Kamala?" Trump asked his rally attendees. "Actually, I should say don't raise your hand, it would be very dangerous. We don't want to see anybody get hurt. Please don't raise your hand."

I wonder if he goes full mask off if he'll lose any voters.

(I think he has already, but some people just never see things until it hits them in the face.)
- He is definitely losing supporters. I know a postal carrier in one of the worst red states and after both recent debates she's been seeing longstanding trump flags and bumper stickers disappear from houses on her route.
  
  That’s great and all, but someone taking down a sign doesn’t mean they’re not gonna vote for him. Now they can just do it without announcing it to the world.
  
  Same. Of the dozens I've seen taken down, about ⅓ to ½ have been replaced with Harris signs. It's certainly been a surprise.
It's not like he previously told his cultists repeatedly to attack people at his rallies and he'll pay their legal bills, whoops wait a minute...

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/donald-trump-incitement-violence/
Jaysus Keerist lookit that frickin mug.

Goddamn.
That picture of Trump is the most terrifying I’ve seen of him ever.
lol kinda off topic but holy shit they could not have more pointedly made an unflattering comparison in those side by side photos if they tried the rest of their lives. Hilarious.
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