Taking Back The Internet With The Tildeverse
For many of us of a particular vintage, the internet blossomed in the ’90s with the invention of the Web and just a few years of development. Back then, we had the convenience of expression o…
Hi. I'm the guy that tipped HaD off to these things.
Tilde communities predate the Tildes 'service.' and is effectivly a return/recreation of the pre-graphical web service model of 'you're connecting with a specific machine and using its services.'
No it isn't for everyone, and sadly no while most have email services gmail, icloud, etc refuse to interact with them.
I like it, but I'm functionally insane. It gives me a place to post static sites and my gemini based blog.
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https://ctrl-c.club/~singletona082
gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~singletona082
I'm sure absolutely nobody will confuse this with Tildes.
Tilde/Pubnix came first.
First one was a thing in 1982. SDF opened in 1989 as a unix server (was an apple IIe bbs in 1985.)
Too late, I already did.
Same. Assumed tildes from just the title.
Seems like they haven't gained traction since the reddit exodus. I wonder how the other alternatives are doing. Lemmy has a decent amount of activity at least, although I still wish more people would use it.
This is literally the first time I've heard it being mentioned since the exodus
Unfortunately, it was originally seeded with people from the meta mod community in Reddit and so they brought all that with them.
Some discussions are awesome, but anything remotely controversial is a pure echo chamber and you’ll get shouted down if you dissent.
Well, TIL
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You mean it's not?
The resurgence of a lot of pre-web protocols is interesting, but I'm not entirely sure it's going to be a sticky thing beyond a novelty.
Also 100% agree with the first comment that on an article about the small web half the content is YouTube videos being hilariously tone-deaf ironic. If only there were some other method of sharing videos with people. Perhaps some sort of tube that's peer-to-peer? A PeerTube, if you will.
And thus you miss the point that tomasino used youtube as outreach. He also posts to peertube.
https://tilvids.com/c/tomasino_channel/videos
Now me linking to youtube when telling them about it was kindof an 'on me' sort of problem, but at the same time you need to make people aware a thing exists and to do that you must get outside of the thing's bubble.
If only there was a way to communicate without videos. The Mesopotamians had something like that but the technology was unfortunately lost.
While I hate the videofication of everything as much as the next person. Looking at a regular website these days is even worse than YouTube with ads.. Cookies bro? You want to subscribe? Can we send you browser messages?? Here are 10 ads that move the text around that you were just reading..
The art of storytelling existed long before writing.
They have videos on peertube if I recall.
Reminds me of sdf.org.
SDF is kind of the grandaddy of it all. There is another system from 82, that is now under the care of SDF.
I’m loving the lore of the “tildeverse”, check out https://cosmic.voyage/ starting with the log entries. Feels like Futurama meets Unix Surrealism.
...that reminds me. I need to update the Stormsong ship logs....
Gopher. Now that's a long time since I heard that name.
Specifically check out tilde.town, it's really cool. For more general information about the tildeverse, go to tildeverse.org
I never heard about the tildeverse before, sounds really interesting. How does one choose which tilde to join, though? It seems to me like only cosmic.voyage has a specific theme, while the rest only differ in the OS running on the machine. Or are tildes just there to host your account, while all the interactions are done via irc?
Tildeverse.org seems like it got a Lemmy hug if death. I can't access it anyways.
It's back up now
Here's my old homepage hosted on a tilde on the Gemini protocol
https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/tilde.team/~smokey/
Here's my new homepage hosted on a different tilde I just got up and running yesterday since the old tilde maintainer stopped communication a few months ago
https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/envs.net/~smokey/
The new one is bare bones right now I will work on moving over some of the better logs and articles. I talk about it more in the log I wrote up last night
https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/envs.net/~smokey/logs/2024-09-16-im-back.gmi
Interesting. Please click the link, it worth your time
On a related note, I host the Guardian to gopherspace here: gopher://theunixzoo.co.uk/1/the-guardian
If one's interest isn't in learning about Linux, host anything, do storytelling, run a radio station, or play Minecraft, there's pretty much nothing to do there. 🤷♂
You just mentioned what really is available nowadays. If you could mention an example of a "web interest" that's not covered, perhaps someone could start it on the tildeverse...
Well, from my POV, things that interest me online are Typescript, React, Html, Css topics, news, tutorials. I'm interested in hosting as well, and host websites for myself and inner family, but I don't wanna go back to plain text. 🤷♂
Topics like browsers, smartphones, pc hardware, musical instruments, virtual reality, crypto.
Music production, FL Studio, and related music hardware.
So, definitely news and reviews from these fields - all that is available from regular internet, but if I could get that from other sources, alternative corners of the internet that respect user privacy, I would.