Australian state bans Nazi salutes. Guess whose side r/neoliberal is on!

Idk about y’all, but I like it when the fascists are stupid enough to out themselves to the world.

My thoughts exactly - I want my enemies to have a uniform to be pointed, named and shamed at.

remember in world war 2 when the Allies defeated the nazis by naming and shaming them?

I love how everyone's like "I like knowing who the nazis are!" and absolutely zero ideas on what to do about them
- Wait for a chosen one to show up and defeat their leader, like in Harry Potter.
- They're not the most perceptive bunch, they actually need people to seig heil in order to differentiate from themselves.
- voooooooote them out! whats that? Hitler won with 33% of the votes bc liberals enabled the fascists and would rather form a coalition w them than with the communists? nah, hitler won bc the communists went to far actually and were trying to restrict
isnt the point of outlawing it that now you can do something about fascists outing themselves to the world? ffs liberals are so spineless
- frfr. they secretly love the fascists bc who else would kill the communists?
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- Probably very hard to get a good reading in Aus because of the high level of ambient Hitler Particles.

There is hardly anything liberal about tolerating explicitly anti-liberal/anti-democratic forces.

That's... the most liberal thing imaginable.

heartbreaking

I think the most liberal thing imaginable is a universalisation of property rights (of a particular cultural pedigree) and a fetishisation of markets (unless inconvenient to those with lots of property).
- You forgot about the key factors of claiming credit for any social progress accomplished by socialists and acting really smug about it

The lame-ass libs in the comments checks out, but I also looked at the article and it gets bizarre. Feel free to correct me if I am misunderstanding. But the fascists might have been showing up to support the event that was "gatecrashed". As the person giving the speech and the event itself seem to have been anti-trans anyway. But the TERFs get completely glossed-over and the lawmakers are pissed about the hateful fascists only. "These laws are part of our unwavering commitment to challenge antisemitism and hatred whenever it occurs." Just an amazing level of contradictions being shown by liberals/conservative-liberals.

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- Here's a shorter video from Australian Tom Tanuki that takes an insider Australian perspective.

You do realize that free expression requires that you permit things as reprehensible as racism, transphobia, homophobia right? You're literally doing the "Well I dislike it, so I'm revoking their rights" thing. I frankly don't give a shit what they "call for" unless they're trying to incite imminent unlawful acts. The crutch for the weak-minded and stupid is asserting yourself as the only moral and political authority and pretending that this will not immediately blow back up in your face. If being an actual liberal with principles is right-wing, then I guess I'm right-wing. It's better than being a spineless succ with no principles and who thinks liberty is removing the liberty of others.

they just SAY it!

If being an actual liberal with principles is right-wing, then I guess I’m right-wing.

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- 8 mile, but this time it's an 8-mile walk to the pit
unless they're trying to incite imminent unlawful acts

They would have absolutely zero disagreement with a Nazi putting minorities in death camps so long as it's the law of the land.
- They might start getting a little uncomfortable after the first couple million or so are murdered, but up until then it's baby!
- They would have no problems with the camps being constructed. History begins with the first guest.
I frankly don't give a shit what they "call for" unless they're trying to incite imminent unlawful acts.

Damn that's what we've been missing. Instead of saying "Shoot the landlords (in minecraft)" we should have been saying "shoot the landlords (at sometime in the non-imminent future)."
- The thing about this that really upsets me is the BEING A NAZI is inherently calling for violence. Like, even by their own stupid qualifications this is breaking the rules
i truly could not give less of a shit about 'liberty' in the sense of political freedoms.

I bet some of these people will do a quick 180 if it came to something related to the Taliban or ISIS, since I don't think I ever saw a liberal defend someone right to like, I dunno wave the taliban flag or something? but it also just really shows how much they love nazis

All the redditors in that thread are like: "I don't like nazis but..."

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holy shit am I tired of 'free speech absolutists' showing up to defend Nazis and literally nobody else

Turns out when you are a free speech absolutist who defends communists just as much you might just end up one yourself.

Couldn't be me :^)

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Unscratched liberals siding with scratched liberals

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blah blah blah It's fun to think about free speech from different perspectives.

Still hasn't figured out it wasn't supposed to apply to him.
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Can you expect better from the people that see nothing wrong with one quarter of a magic school being dedicated to magic nazis? wizard

see nothing wrong with one quarter of a magic school being dedicated to magic nazis?

What kind of school has a quarter of its faculty dedicated to teaching magic engineering?
- magic shots fired

Absolute scum.

It's good, but honestly QLD will have VIC beaten if they pass their own which also bans displaying a Swastika (including on a tattoo) in public (VIC has that already but not the tattoo part which is neat).

"First they came for the Nazis" LOLZ

Neoliberals know they're next on the Nazi spectrum so it does make sense they'd be concerned once Nazis are targeted.

I mean, statistically the closest thing you can get to sending people to labor camps based on race is doing it by the socioeconomic status you were born into, and that's their idea of utopia.
That's a lot shorter poem than the original, no extra steps between nazis and neoliberals

Jesus, I regret reading the link. The smug assholes there raise my blood pressure like nothing else

I revoke other peoples' rights as I please, actually

i actually don't support these laws because they historically always just get used against the left and never against the right. fascism isn't defeated by the government banning it, it's defeated on the street. Also from a long time back, one of the proposed amendments to this bill was the following text (i dont know if it was in the final bill)

all other extremist groups which seek to promote fascism, communism, anarchism, bigotry and violence in our community

we also know that in places like germany where nazi symbols are banned they just invent new more obscure ones anyway

they don't need a legal mandate to oppress the left. blow up every nazi statue with public money.
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- Doesn't look too bad actually, specifically calling out a crossed out swastika as being allowed (afaik in Germany this example was used to disperse antifascist rallies)
  
  Either way though, the solution can only come from the working class.

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"Damn man, we cant even say "hi" to our friends anymore?"