World Health Organization confirms first official human death from H5N2 (Bird Flu). A Mexican man with no prior animal contact has passed away, heavily implying human-human transmission
Erm… bird flu?
Yeah buddy, they tend to do that.
Anyway, who is excited for some new unprecedented times?
Didn't the US start preemptively developing a vaccine. I may totally eat my words but I don't think the world goverments will let another plague run wild with how much it hurt capital last time.
At least it's H5N2, and not H5N1. That's the only upside. This is still a terrible development. H5N2 has a lower R0 and is more mild than H5N1, in birds at least.
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I really hate living in a world that can't respond to crises. There are a handful of countries in the world with the ability and will to do so. But their good intentions are undercut by a cruel, apathetic world.
I hate hiding my face behind a mask. I hate being scared to do simple errands. Fuck this fuckity fuckfuck.
Theoretically the more consolidated power becomes the more unstable it is. There's a reason the liberals didn't end monarchy until after absolute monarchs gained power. It might be cope but it sounds nice.
so when bodies are being stacked in the streets do you think the anti-vax people are just going to claim it's because of the covid vaccine and there is no bird flu?
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God I'm feeling like the early days of the covid pandemic, hearing about this distant epidemic with these various news stories coming out about how this thing is getting bigger and bigger as it steadily creeps closer to where it might effect me. I'll be interested to see how people react if this explodes into a full-blown pandemic though. I'm not hopeful, to say the least.
I will point out though that the story says all close contacts tested negative, which I think would mean there's no human-to-human transmission? If so, I'm interested as to how it did reach him - maybe raw milk or undercooked chicken/eggs? It also says there were farms near the patient's home, so maybe there was some contact with poultry/cows? I know it's being reported there was no contact with poultry, but I'm assuming this is just because contact can't be confirmed since he's not a farmworker or anything. But if he's living around farmland there can of course still be contact.
just because contact can't be confirmed since he's not a farmworker or anything. But if he's living around farmland there can of course still be contact
can't you get exposed just from bird shit? i doubt contact with strictly 'agricultural' animals is necessary. the super bewildering portion of the story is the patient was on bed-rest for 3 weeks. that strongly implies they weren't exposed to normal environmental vectors, but i don't know how confidently they could rule out the patient having gotten it before being bedridden.
Looking forward to the breathless Westoid articles about the Chinese pigeons conscripted to shit in people's mouths all over the world to spread their sinister bioweapon.
yeah I remember reading it can be spread just through bird shit, which is honestly horrifying. I have bird shit on my car right now and I'm scared to touch it. But yeah I think you're right, contact with birds is enough to spread it.
On 23 May 2024, the Mexico International Health Regulations (IHR) National Focal Point (NFP) reported to PAHO/WHO a confirmed fatal case of human infection with avian influenza A(H5N2) virus detected in a resident of the State of Mexico who was hospitalized in Mexico City.
Cool cool cool just in a mega city. Will libs simultaneously use this to explain why sealing the southern border is even more good while they are unmasked and brunching? Oh hell yeah
I mentioned this to people I now and was immediately hit with "weird how pandemics keep happening during election years" and "guess more non-citizens Biden let in will be voting with mail in ballots". I really need to leave the suburbs.
how does someone who was bedridden for 3 weeks bc of an unrelated illness with no exposure to poultry or animals contract the bird flu? sure, its possible they got it from an unreported animal exposure, but the information presented suggests human-human transmission was a possibility
Bird-bird transmission (EDIT: oops, of H5N1) is EXTREMELY easy and requires pretty extreme quarantine protocols. If you track bird shit on your shoes, other birds can catch it from that for like a month unless it is properly cleaned and sanitized. (Source: have friends who work for wildlife rescue organizations that include birds.)
Might be something like that? Or just a long incubation period?
The implication of catching the bird flu without having any animal contact and after being bedridden for 3 weeks implies human-human transmission, which is what I said.