“You have to see the hole in the ship. And if you don’t see the hole in the ship, we’re all going to go down.”
To use political jargon, Nikki Haley—who has lost primary contests in Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, and her home state of South Carolina—does not have a snow ball’s chance in hell of winning the GOP nomination for president. Still, she is apparently intent on not going down without a fight, and to that end, the former governor has a message for voters: Anyone who votes for Donald Trump has a death wish for America.
My state has open primaries and I voted for Haley. Not because I support her but because giving her a boost in the primaries will be a good foil for Trump.
And, if in the small chance she gets the nom, she might actually be easier to beat than Trump. Not holding my breath on that one though.
A vote for a repub is more dead Ukrainian soldiers and it pisses me off to no end. Reagan is rolling in his grave how his party is now the russian puppet party.
Well, with all the crimes he committed against the American economy, I would not put Reagan on a high pedestal, but yes, at least he had the balls to counter the Russians.
These people are spineless, they call Trump the most dangerous thing to democracy in one sentence and then endorse him in the next breathe. They are all so weak.
She's not going to endorse until the ballots for the general are printed. She's positioning herself as the only candidate who didn't resign in case Trump is legally barred from running.
That is her entire strategy and even if everything unfolded how she wanted I doubt she'd actually be a front runner.
She may be further betting that even if Trump runs, he will lose. If the Republicans lose again, that may well mean they decide to finally throw Trump under the bus. Haley would be in a strong position if that came to pass, setting her up for a 2028 run, or at least a whole lot of "told you so" speaking engagements at significant profit.
Haley is just as crazy as trump. Which is why normalizing him by running worse Dem candidates than we normally would is so terrible.
Suddenly people like Haley and Liz Cheney start being called "moderates" because they're halfway between trump and a neoliberals running with a D by their name.
I’m a conservative moderate independent. I very briefly considered Haley because I heard some good things about her. BUT, her views on abortion and pardoning Trump so we can “move on” as a country feel unconscionable to me.
I really don’t like Biden, but I can’t blame him for running for reelection. Incumbent presidents tend to have an advantage with voters. Part of the reason I dislike him is that my ideal candidate, Warren, is unlikely to run in 2028.
And the thing I admired about conservatives is no longer valid. I can respect that you have a different view than I do, and that you stand by your values. Republicans threw away their values and are set to throw away democracy to accomplish their goals.
And the thing is, I would vote for a literal flaming pile of poop over Trump and Biden certainly is better than that, as much as I don’t like him.
Honestly Biden has been pretty great, and the only really liberal thing he's doing is forgiving student debt. That's not that radical or expensive.
He doesn't go far enough, imo, but with this Congress he can't. I'd love to see a top marginal rate of 80% for earnings over 4 million per year.
I'd consider voting for someone slightly worse and younger, but that candidate doesn't exist this year. There's a hell of a lot worse, more loyal to Putin than America, fascist, and still about the same age.
I think this take is pretty bad. You can disagree with Haley and Trump on a lot of pretty core issues, but trying to say they are completely equal is just plain wrong, in my opinion.
If Haley was elected, I'm positive that I wouldn't like the direction of the country at all, and think things would regress. It also encourages Republicans to run the most extreme candidates, because there's no pull to anything rational when all candidates are treated the same.
With Trump, I'm genuinely concerned about our core institutions surviving again.
I don't view Haley as Moderate, but I don't think Trump is on a politicians spectrum. The man is just chaos and ego incarnate.
Haley's domestic policy stance is basically the same as Trump's. They do differ on foreign policy, and Haley is arguably more sane as she isn't obviously supporting Putin's goals.
It's not "extremist" to say that two candidates from the Republican party are similar - they are in fact, similar. Haley's campaign tagline is basically "not Trump".
Pointing out that the Democrats are bad is not the same as saying 'both sides are the same'. Sure, Biden is infinitely better than the alternative, but it would be really nice to have some actually good options instead of just lesser evil
Her existence is to try to keep moderate conservative voters from flipping sides, and as insurance in case the supreme court sides against trump. The pardon is for the extreme side as a consolation prize if the SC rules against him.
When the supreme court rules in his favor and the risk of him going to jail is 0, she'll support him and hope that the last minute endorsement will put the presidency on the regressive side. She's not any better than him, nor was she ever. They're cut from the same cloth, they're just pandering to two sides of the same party.
Nikki Haley and others like her keep insisting that the 'real' GOP isn't based on Trump politics, when are they are going admit that it's the REAL GOP committing a murder/suicide on America. And the Dems are just the meme of the dog in the room on fire.
And yet they treat the primaries with so little concern that the orange doofus is almost guaranteed to be the gop nominee come November. One half of the gop wants trump in the white house. The other half, it seems, just doesn't care.
She'd be only marginally better in that she wouldn't attempt to become a dictator, but she still represents the party of "Fuck you and fuck minorities, got mine".