Honestly if the result of the federation is just every lib instance defederating and having to write one of these "it's not for ideological reasons, it's just that supporting NATO is mandatory" announcements it's all been worth it, that shit is funny as hell
Both sides of a war can be bad. We don't have to support either. The working class are the only victims, and will continue to be victimized until peace is negotiated.
I know. I know. This makes me a woke tankie. I bring shame on our house.
I think my favorite comment on their announcement was the one that was like, "they're even on MOSCOW TIME!" If that was one of you jokers making a funny, don't tell me. Just let me enjoy it.
Lemmyworld is forever going to be referred to as the instance full of pedos, transphobes and fascists that tried its hardest not to defederate an explicitly nazi instance while pulling this shit with a soft dirtbag left instance that spawned from the chapo podcast of all things.
Like, what a fucking reputation to give yourselves so early on.
Haha, your comment is taken as example by a poster with many upvotes to why it is good to not federate with us. Since it shows people obvious dunking (so people being uncivil) aren't allowed liberal rights of the marketplace of ideas. They feel it is unfair to label them "full of pedos" (for taking to long to ban the stuff, unfair to be labeled transphobes (though there is still plenty to be found on the site, unless hexbear), unfair to be labeled being more friendly to fascists than socialists.
Funny that the unfair labeling of hexbear's userbase doesn't seem to be as unfair.
If they don't want to be labelled as "full of pedos" then they shouldn't be federated with instances serving pedo content while defederating with instances like ours.
They've made their bed, they can lie in it. They think a bunch of socialists are worse than pedos and nazis. They can have a taste of what that means in terms of reputation when thousands and thousands of people repeat it everywhere.
In fairness we are probably the largest community of actual communists and anarchists etc that have read the manifesto and the bread book.certainly in America and kkklanada and probably in much of western euroe, too.
holy shit this is great, one of them is now educating me on what communism is lmao:
This is prime example of my point.
Just so you know, we like communists (mostly, we are communists), we’re generally OK with socialists
Your statement reveals you have no knowledge of the subject or ideals you claim to believe in. Communism is a process in which to establish a Socialist utopia. It was conceived by Marx based on the Machiavellian quote “The ends justify the means.” and was laid out in the Communist Manifesto. It is a militant process in which to implement SOCIALISM by force. I am guessing you are a fan of how things worked out in China?
I like when libs talk about the Communist Manifesto like it's some sort of step by step plan on how to achieve Communism. It's a pretty easy sign there is not reason to engage with someone if they're too brain dead or disingenuous to read a 30 page pamphlet.
Did Machiavelli say the ends justify the means? He spent a lot of pages talking about Virtu in his art of war book. The Prince is kind of it's own thing and I don't think we'll ever have broad agreement on whether it's supposed to be read straight or read as satire.