For Trump, This Is a Dress Rehearsal | Ordering the National Guard to deploy in Los Angeles is a warning of what to expect when his hold on power is threatened.
For Trump, This Is a Dress Rehearsal
This country has already crossed the Rubicon after the events of January 6th in my opinion. What’s we saw in LA was the declaration of war from this administration on its own people. We need to unite, fight, and stand against this tyrannical regime. If the White House is afraid of us now just you wait you pos’s.
Remember historically successful resitances don't meet the enemy on an open front. They harrass and kill individuals. Soldiers that are alone, at home, and at the bar have historically been targets
I'm all for this
Im trying to imagine being an american warcrimer being exposed to this, stuff like french and dutch and eastern european partisans pulled in world war two, and i dont think im even getting a full picture of how much it would suck to be them.
And I think it would suck a lot. Like, even the co workers of a guy who got lured out on tinder or something and butchered would be fucked the hell up. And since everything has so much of the same stuff as home-all the traffic signs and most of the big chain stores etc, all the people look pretty much like the ones at home, there wouldn't really be any way to heal from the trauma.
Like, if you watch sargent bob get splattered all over you and got some nasty burns from an ied in front of the wal mart on mlkjr blvd in los angeles across from a poorly greebled 5over1, and you went home, i dont think you'd be cool going past the wal mart on mlk jr blvd in Tallahassee or whatever shit hole they fished hypothetical baby storm trooper you out of, or living in a poorly greebled 5over1. Doubly so if the guy who did it had been in the same frat as your father in law, and you saw pictures of him in some family photo album years later.
Even small crap would echo out for decades. They would kind of be 'over' as people.
Im not sure i would have any sympathy, but damn, that's an ugly fucking outcome. Really hoping enough of them have enough of a conscience to not press the metaphorical big red button, and we dont end up either there, or Dachau.
I worry that if it reaches a point where he's genuinely worried about being deposed, he wouldn't hesitate to drop nukes on American civilians.
I do agree but with the nukes thing idk I could see Donny declaring martial law and suspending elections till the “protesters” are gone and when that doesn’t work then it will get worse, if we allow it too.
Yeah, anyone thinking that there is even a remotely fair election in 2026 and again in 2028 really should come and take a look at that bridge in my backyard that I'm selling...
Don't worry , all of this means that somehow the stock market will rally on Monday and that's really all that matters.
How much? I only got thee fiddy
how big is it
That’s a lot of nazis.
No no no. When push comes to shove the heroic military will fight against fascism. Ignore all the fucking evidence to the contrary and support the troops.
Not wrong. At "best," we'll see a fracturing of the military...which could be much more trouble than it's worth. I'd expect a small wave of resignations/desertions (since resignation for an officer takes a long time). The remainder of good people will actively try to avoid and sea-lawyer their way out of doing any damage to civilians without violating orders. There will be a good chunk who will happily fire on US civilians, though.
It takes active recruitment if we want the military on the side of the people.
MAYBE that would have worked on the "I just want to go to college" Desert Storm kids.
We spent the better part of 20 years at continual war training an army to commit atrocities in the name of "peace keeping". Anybody joining under those circumstances either started out brainwashed ("My daddy and his daddy and his daddy were all marines!") or are basically cops who just want an excuse to wave a gun around.
At best? We are looking at the equivalent of trotting out liz cheney at the DNC. Sure there are "moderates" who might be won over. But the moment they hear that somebody doesn't like whatever "moderate" belief they have they'll go straight maga and then insist it is your fault for not winning their vote by slaughtering a few trans kids.
They should stop lying and using recruits as guinea pigs then
When push comes to shove the heroic military will fight against fascism.
He wants to machine gun Americans
Fascists only leave power one way
In addition, the Secretary of Defense may employ any other members of the regular Armed Forces as necessary to augment and support the protection of Federal functions and property in any number determined appropriate in his discretion.
Because fuck the Posse Comitatus Act
Yup, but that line was crossed when he federalized National Guard troops for domestic policing. Federalized National Guard troops are legally the same as active duty military, both are title 10 troops and are restricted in their domestic use to the same degree. There is legally no difference between federalized National Guard and any active duty military, including tier one special forces as far as posse comitatus. This is a flagrant and illegal abuse of emergency powers.
He shouldn't have even been an option
C'mon all you snooty history and politics grad school students... Figure out a way! Show us how smart you guys are and such. Remember in highschool how smart you used to think you were compared to the other kids who brought lunch because they couldn't afford it? Now a bigger asshole is shooting at them. This is your chance! Your big break! Demonstrate your clear intellectual superiority. I'm one of those poor kids and if it wasn't for things I design you wouldn't have that little shiny square of pixels thar you're reading this on. So raise up you mofos! The entire world needs you to grow balls. Bernie went to jail a few times for the good of his community. What are you gonna do? Go join up with the motorcycle and flag guy and show us real leadership.
Otherwise, please oh please let's see motorcycle and Mexican flag guy as a member of Congress. I can imagine him now. Bandana and all. Looking cholo. "Chale! I don't like this bill, I ain't signing nothing!"
If you went to school to be a politician, you owe this society a solution to remove Trump and his entire family and possy from politics. Grow balls and pay it forward!
Buy guns if you don't have any yet.
I live across the big pond and even I'm getting guns. Fascism has a nasty habit of spreading like wildfire, even before the era of Internet.
But I thought guns couldn't be used to fight the government and gun owners are stupid.
Yup. And so he can purge anyone that doesn't follow orders. This is what you voted for protest-non-voters.
Trump needs to watch Civil War
Bold of you to assume he would learn anything
He should be made to participate in one.
He is gearing up for it
You are not going to get fucknuts rump out of there by buying him a McD’s burger that is for sure.
LA is also a good opportunity to say: This and this and this high ranking officer failed and will be replaced (by a loyalist).
Can we please take this opportunity to introduce an amendment to the constitution to make it a criminal offense to issue curfews or martial law?
Yes, the solution to the powerful being protected but not bound by laws is to add more laws that will protect but not bind them.
Im always saying this, and everyone thinks im being sarcastic.
been saying it since 2021, the US will fall into a civil war. you have a radicalized right with too many armed militias to count and a liberal left which don't possess the firepower to fight back. add ethnic diversity, vast wealth inequality and political ideologies to it to cast the flame.
There are too many self-interested factions with incompatible ideologies. I don't think we're entering into civil war or some collapse but the US will definitely enshittify at a steady pace for the rest of its existence as a nation-state.
Not even his hold on power has to be threatened. This is just people he thinks are yucky. Except for the underage females…they will get an exception.
Civilians are going to be gunned down. The media will paint the victims as violent criminals. In the burbs, Frank Freeway and Mary Minivan won't care, what's on Netflix?
I don't want to downplay the alarm bells going off over this move. It's definitely as bad as many are saying. On the other hand, I do want to set some right expectations. National guardsmen are modern professional soldiers and, as such, are far more disciplined than average police officers. Civilian casualties are always a possibility, and might even be what this administration wants, but I think it's unlikely that we'll see anything like another Kent State. If anything, I'll bet most of the guardsmen are pretty frustrated with Trump for being called up for bullshit reasons.
I think the problem though is neither side is going to back down which means clashes between troops/police is going to keep escalating until someone at one of these events pushes things too far and the troops/police end up firing on people. Especially as they are most likely going to start trying to push to end the protests through arrests rather then just focusing on control which will just antagonize people more. Realistically what other end scenario is there to this if Trump keeps throwing gasoline on the fire? It's either gonna be a brutal crackdown on the protests with "less then lethal" weapons done by the military or end up being a bloodbath. Either way both outcomes would be horrifying to see happening in America, dictators use the military to put down protests and if we let that happen without any kind of severe backlash then we're pretty much fucked.
Frustrated, modern (whatever that means in this context), professional, and yet, still willing to point a gun at peaceful civilian protestors.
The jackboot is coming down on your head, but at least it's polished, neatly tied, and only coming down hard enough to knock you out, not kill you.
"Oh, you have a [baby|upcoming deadline|scheduled holiday] in your regular life? Drop everything and harass these protesters while trying not to worry about regular life "
I'd be frustrated, too.
I agree for the army. National guard? Nope. As redneck as it gets.
Do you still have misplaced faith in US institutions? Your conjecture was proven incorrect in less than 24 hours.
https://sh.itjust.works/post/39788677
https://sh.itjust.works/post/39779078
There's plenty of modern professional soldiers doing the worst shit imaginable with a smile on there face.
Lulz. The bulk of the military is 18Y old chumps.
I have trust in the generals, but they keep getting fired by this administration. The enlisted mooks will brainlessly shoot at civilians and call themselves heroes if given the chance.
The grunts and mooks aren't professional at all. That's the fucking point.
Police are those who actually study the law. Soldiers at best know they haven't studied the law. It's always the generals and officers who step in and protect us from the dumbasses, but the brains of the military are actively being drained right now.
Tin soldiers and Nixon coming
\ We're finally on our own
\ This summer I hear the drumming
\ Four dead in Ohio
Gotta get down to it, soldiers are cutting us down
\ Should have been gone long ago
\ What if you knew her and found her dead on the ground
\ How can you run when you know?
Given the general reaction to Lugi I'd be more inclined to think they just paint themselves as the villain. People, not everyone but some, are realizing what's going on. They tell their friends and so on.
People that I know who never cared about politics are taking strong stances. I know it looks grim but I feel like the people are waking up and this is the reaction to that, but in this day and age you can't stop a large shift that easy.
It might start that way, but there's 3.8 million people in just L.A. proper, I think he's deployed too little for the instability of the situation but time will tell.