The AI revolution is coming
The AI revolution is coming
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You know, I used to worry about China taking over the world, but honestly they look like a much better choice for a super power than the US is now.
I for one welcome our new communist overlords.
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Yeah, come to China
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Not long until those articles are written about the USA.
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The techbro authoritarian society is coming.
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Every sane person working in tech saw that coming, lol. Not saying that AI is bullshit, but it doesn't do anything that marketing want you to believe.
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Deepseek is good locally.
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As someone who is rather new to the topic: I have a GPU with 16 GB VRAM and only recently installed Ollama. Which size should I use for Deepseek R1?🤔
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It'll require us to create an actual AI first, but yeah when that day comes shit's gonna get real wild real fast.
And no, the glorified spellchecker-on-steroids we're all calling AI but isn't actual intelligence isn't gonna cut it. Fun toy though.
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It's artificial as in fake, not man-made and it's been that way since the 70's. It's only the pop-sci definition that's inaccurate. AI has always been about faking decision making whether it is an adversarial AI in a video game or a chat bot. You can hate the overhyped wallstreet buzz around LLMs, but this semantic argument crap has just been annoying.
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It’s artificial as in fake, not man-made and it’s been that way since the 70’s
'Artificial' isn't the part of it that's in question, lol. And computing has been around since way before the 70s.
AI has always been about faking decision making
That isn't intelligence.
adversarial AI in a video game or a chat bot
are examples of A but not I.
this semantic argument crap has just been annoying.
Agreed. Words have meanings, and while we fuck it up a lot by not understanding the meaning or by some marketing department deliberately using the wrong words to sell something to people who don't know any better, none of that means the words don't have meanings.
Unless we're going with the whole "we've used it incorrectly long enough that that's what it means now cuz language evooooolves!" shit, and honestly, maybe we have crossed that line, but that shit's above my paygrade.
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Change happens very slowly then all at once - unknown, to me. I didn't want to go down that rabbit hole, it's 0330
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What am I looking at? What's the reason behind this collapse?
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My horrible take only based on a few snippets:
Chinese open source AI releases, wipes the floor with US AI. Exposes AI as massively overvalued. Not surprising considering how big tech is just taking everything. Nvidia loses like half a trillion in value.
I’m happy to see a home run against the fascists that hurt them more than violence, at least to start. And I’m not a fan of AI (as hyped), but if it’s going to happen I’d rather it be with an open source performer as a base than the venture capitalists that abandoned us.
And really the US is no more trustworthy than China for those of us under the shadow of the big dick energy stuporpowers.
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Not overvalued exactly. I believe the main point is they claimed to have used much much less power to train it, and that it demonstrates equivalent capability on much much less power.
There’s been a huge stock bubble on speculation of near infinite demand for datacenters, and NVidia processors. If DeepSeek’s claims are true, they just popped that bubble. We don’t suddenly need so many new datacenters. Demand for NVidia processors is not infinite, and their stock price is excessive compared to reality
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Chinese ChatGPT outperforms American models, on cheaper and less powerful chips as well. Leading to speculations of overvalued tech stocks in the US on an already very high valued market
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Chinese ChatGPT outperforms
On par with
on cheaper and less powerful chips as well.
Trained for less money on weaker hardware
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It also open source.
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Only some tech companies took a L, this is not a real image (unfortunately). The reason being that a chinese company managed to surpass OpenAI's best models with 6 million funding and limited access to hardware, proving that Nvidia's hardware isn't all that necessary, and OpenAI is throwing money out the window
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Loss in trust in the US economy under Trump along with the appearance of a new "Hail Mary" by investors who can look outside of the US' national borders unlike Trump and his followers.
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It’s not a collapse (yet). This is the first of many market corrections as AI drops back into the realm of reality.
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Some of you seriously need to stop living and dying by a daily heat map. We're at levels that we were at months ago. Anybody who bought months ago is doing fine. Learn to zoom out.
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After this one?
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What application is this?
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CHAINA
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Is now a good time to invest in stocks?
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Now is just as speculative a time to buy as yesterday. Stocks are unstable. Maybe someone will prove DeepSeek lied and stocks will explode again. Maybe they’ll be proven true and stocks will drop much more.
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Do you have money to throw away?
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Buy the dip
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Funnily enough, this actually worked the first time GME crashed.
Just not the second.
Buy the dip, not the others.
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The best time is yesterday. The second best time is today.
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Bur I don't write Mandarin.
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Don't worry they write in English for you
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