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China unveils plan to build 'strong education nation' by 2035

www.channelnewsasia.com China unveils plan to build 'strong education nation' by 2035

BEIJING: China issued its first national action plan to build a "strong education nation" by 2035, which it said would help coordinate its education development, improve efficiencies in innovation and build a "strong country". The plan, issued by the Communist Party's central committee and the State...

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China unveils plan to build 'strong education nation' by 2035

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They're just flexing on us at this point, aren't they?
- FBI Uncovers ~~Al-Quaeda~~ Chinese Plot to Just Sit Back and Enjoy Collapse of United States
- They don't need to. What they've done with high speed rail in 15 years makes me want to cry. They built an entire national HSR network since the great recession. America is such a fallen empire.
  
  That's the power of Socialism at play, when Humanity flips the power of Capital over Humanity on its head and becomes the master of Capital, it can achieve great things. Massive infrastructure projects and rapid development are just one aspect of this process, and the US would do well to follow in the footsteps of the Socialist countries to produce along a common plan. The obstacle, of course, is revolution, but rather than being impossible or easy, the truth is that revolution is just hard work.

Investing in education is the mark of a rising nation. Imposing lifelong debt for it is the mark of a falling one.

US is screwed. 4 years getting wrecked by Trump is best case scenario at this point, but if he has his way it'll all be fixed up so people don't have to vote anymore and then the country is really doomed.
Weird that I would feel safer with China as the superpower instead of a Trump America.
- If the US is unable or unwilling to be a world leader, the EU must step up. China runs concentration camps and has a totalitarian government, not a good fit for the world, especially for anyone "different" from the regime.
  
  This is some Josep Borell-level Western chauvinism, which is rich considering the support Europe has just given to an actual genocide.
  
  The EU spent the previous year actively supporting a fascist ethnostate's genocide. They're also no less "totalitarian" than China.
  
  EU is going fascist only slightly slower than the US and has been funding an actual genocide almost as hard. They will not be the world's hope.

Meanwhile, the liberals are screeching unintelligibly about… tankies?
I take increasing amounts of pleasure in watching reality take a shit on liberal faces every single time.

So tempted to go to beijing for my PhD
- Why not go, It would be an experience but I imagine you would need to speak Chinese.
  
  I would have to convince my partner
  
  My main concern with going is I can't keep my mouth shut about politics... And I don't fancy getting in trouble abroad
  
  I can barely speak two languages. I tried to learn some Mandarin but apparently I am tone deaf because I cannot hear or get the tones right when I practice.

Educated people won't stay obedient. That's why reactionary powers historically avoid aiming for truly educated masses—they prefer a controlled education system that reinforces their ideology, not one that fosters critical thinking or revolutionary action.
China’s ambitious education plan seems to promise quality and accessibility, but we must ask: what kind of education will it promote? True education awakens class consciousness and challenges power structures, but education shaped by the state can become a tool for reinforcing conformity, obedience, and the status quo.
As Marxist theory teaches us, the ruling class controls not just the means of production but also the means of ideas. The flex here is not in building 'education power,' but in demonstrating the capacity to shape minds for the future workforce, ensuring stability within their system of production and governance. In this context, the plan isn't just about making smarter citizens; it’s about making a more compliant society under the guise of progress.
- Damn sometimes I forget how intellectualizing Americans will talk about the largest socialist country on the planet. Literally doing the "at what cost" meme lol
  I'll say it, even if what you're saying is true, it's true of all states, and it's good and proper that the PRC reinforces a socialist worldview through it's education. What's the alternative?
  
  I haven’t researched how Americans talk about these topics specifically, but what I can say is that in a Marxist context, it’s essential to analyze how education serves the interests of the ruling class, regardless of the country. In reactionary states, the government controls the narrative to ensure stability and maintain political power, even if the education system appears progressive. Theory argues that true education should challenge existing power structures and develop class consciousness, but state-controlled education often aims to preserve the current system. So is there fostering of critical thinking, or merely reinforcing a controlled worldview, as any state does to maintain its authority?
- This text has the same LLM slop formulation as two days ago when you made China out to not be socialist 🥱
  
  The claim that the comment "is slop" might overlook socialism and the role of education in class struggle. According to Marxism, socialism is about dismantling class structures and empowering the working class to control production and governance. Education under socialism should awaken revolutionary consciousness, not simply train workers to serve the system.
  Marx warned that the ruling class controls both production and ideas to maintain power. A true socialist education system would encourage people to challenge these structures, not support them.
- China’s ambitious education plan seems to promise quality and accessibility, but we must ask: what kind of education will it promote?
  Why ask questions when you intend to answer them yourself and are most likely (speaking from experience) going to ignore any answers received?
  True education awakens class consciousness and challenges power structures
  The first part is true but the second part is not. The second part presupposes that whatever power structures are in place must always be challenged. You are imposing your own ideology in education. And I know that you are not talking about criticizing or improving the power structures, but rebelling against them because of your next sentence.
  but education shaped by the state can become a tool for reinforcing conformity, obedience, and the status quo.
  Basically, you want chinese education to become a tool for your euro-centric ideology to forment civil disobedience, in service of your euro-centric goals.
  As Marxist theory teaches us
  What Marxist theory theory actually teaches us is that we must be critical of everything, including our own biases and circumstances. You are applying your own ideology, developed under the experience of capitalist dictatorship to a socialist society.
  
  I think there's a misunderstanding. I’m not claiming to have any answers, and I’m being critical of my own biases too. Marxism teaches us to question everything to see if they serve the working class or just maintain power.
  When I say ‘challenge power structures,’ I mean education should help people understand class struggle and how to improve society, not just obey the system blindly. This isn’t about imposing some ‘Euro-centric’ idea but asking if education is helping build socialism or just keeping things the same. It's an universal issue.
- What is the ruling class in the PRC? Very important question to answer if you think investing in education will weaken the PRC, not strengthen it.
- Educated people won’t stay obedient. That’s why reactionary powers historically avoid aiming for truly educated masses—they prefer a controlled education system that reinforces their ideology, not one that fosters critical thinking or revolutionary action.
  Your LLM knows it. China education good
- What's your argument? That they should implement the "American Way" - crush education and paywal it so only the elite can have it while the rest of the nation lives in ignorance?
  Because if they end up with a highly educated, liberal population, mankind may actually have a chance to avoid extinction...
- They can indoctrinate for a while, but education (as opposed to vocational training) inherently encourages critical thinking skills that make people progressively more resistant to the indoctrination.

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