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2w ago

Are the tankies in the room with you now?

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That's not really a thing neoliberals say...
They definitely complain about the tankies being a big part of the culture of Lemmy, and housing some of the biggest communities, but the statement in the comic isn't even remotely a thing neolibs or the .world demographic says
So this comic kinda just feels like a strange, confusing straw man...
- Nothing appears to exist if you never open your eyes
- The only times I hear of tankies is from how annoying they are in online forums, their only power being in their subreddits and lemmy instances. The only references to Marxists are from idiots repeating MAGA talking points.
- Really bro? That's what we're doing now?

the liberals got the world they fought so hard for when USSR was dissolved, against the will of the people, and they havent stopped crying about it since
- Didn't it die because everyone including Russia wanted out? Closest to the will of the people for keeping it they got was having the only referendum they ever had be about if USSR should be basically replaced with some other form of union. Which is not great.
  
  It died because after a referendum for its dissolution failed, there was a power struggle as the communists tried to prevent Yeltsin from doing it anyway, and Yeltsin ended up ordering tanks to fire on the parliament building until the communist pro-democracy forces surrendered. Then the soviet union broke up and 7 million people died from capitalist shock therapy aided by bourgeois "democratic" governments.

You know it's gotten pretty bad when even the anarchist flag usernames are meming about how ridiculous the anti tankie attitude is.
- True left unity is uniting against .world
- Imo anarchists and people who even lean that way have a big interest in making sure tankie doesn't get used as an insult for anyone to the left of liberals, real tankies grouped and killed anarchists, letting everyone be called tankies and not just real tankies means Anarchists are less safe.
  
  Soviet Union General Secretary Joseph Stalin broke the Non-Intervention Agreement and League of Nations embargo by providing material assistance to the Republican forces, becoming their only source of major weapons.
  From August 1936 onward, over one ship per day arrived at Spain's Mediterranean ports with Russian aid: munitions, rifles, machine guns, hand grenades, artillery, trucks, Soviet agents, technicians, instructors, and propagandists.
  
  Yup. Mutual aid and mutual security are closely tied. Any top down heirarchal structure, no matter how temporary you're told it will be, is against the interests of the workers/proletariat/commoner.
  Communists worked closely with fascists in Italy to have anarchists killed when Mussolini was in power.
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism_in_Italy
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_attempts_on_Benito_Mussolini
- I've been more people complaining about Tankies than anything actually based on what Tankies support. But I've seen plenty of shitlibs openly supporting for biogtry on .world
  
  Your instance probably filters them from you.

"Progressive" Shitlibs when they allow bigots on their platform and Queer people dont like them

(Im pretty sure eveyone other than world users hate world)
- .world has now moved onto banning people for calling out transphobia. It was bad when they banned users for calling out the Democrats' involvement with the genocide of Palestinians, but now they ban users for being "aggresive" with transphobes.
  
  Yea..... I am glad I have .world on my block list.
- .world user here. I also hate .world.
- I personally don't do a lot of hating
  
  I personally dont hate individual people, I hate concepts and organizations (like Neoliberalism and bigotry) :3

in order to combat leftist propaganda lemmy.flatearth is now forcing disinformation onto its communities. The red scare runs deep.
- Seriously?
  
  yup it was a recent announcement about "balanced discussions" or whatever

Extreme right want us to think that this is full of tankies to give the impression that they are a opressed minority, is in fact a nasty resource that they use when they see they are loosing a debate or simply the presence in a physic or virtual space.

I haven't been able to take the word "tankie" seriously in most cases since I asked that to someone on Reddit and they linked a meme praising anarchist Catalonia
- Yeah, it's kind of lost all meaning. I've seen Marxists call Liberals tankies, and I've seen Liberals calls Marxists tankies. I've seen right wingers call Leftists tankies, and I've seen Leftists call Centerists tankies. I know where the word came from, and who the first tankies were but I rarely know what a person's intent is with that word anymore. Maybe it's just young people slang now and I'm just too old to get it.
  Because I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was. Now what I'm with isn't it anymore and what's it seems weird and scary. And it'll happen to you!

Aside from conservatives, does anyone think the world is controlled by marxists, tankie or otherwise?
- The meme is about lemmy.world and American liberals are center-right conservatives so....
  
  American liberals are centre-left progressives* FTFY
- I guess it depends on the country. Unfortunately here in Brasil it's rather common to find people that believes in "cultural Marxism" and how our education system is Marxist or leftist or some shit. Which is total BS used to smear and drive people away from higher education.
- The closest is the PRC, though all Marxists understand that the US is the current hegemon.

Right, never start complaining about someone until they rule the world.
- I swear all the winners are messaging me from sh.itsjust.fascism
  
  It's an instance that doesn't require an interview and mostly has an absent admin so .world admins can't pressure them to ban accounts 'for the good if the fediverse'. Of course some sh.it heels use it but I plays an important roll.
  
  Would you recognize irony if you sat on it?

- Yes, American propaganda is propaganda, but also: They're both hugely powerful countries. It's a bit naive to view either without healthy scepticism.
  Just my perspective from a smaller country. I wish we weren't the US' little bitch (Australia) and think I do view China quite a lot more favourably than the average US or Australian citizen, but I think the first sentence in your meme is the healthy view here with practically any country.
- I have a brain, you know.
- Who told you not to trust anything the US said?
  This is meme is for people who are incapable of forming their own thoughts but have been told they are, aka, tools of propaganda.
  
  Who told you not to trust anything the US said?
  Living in the US is sufficient cause to distrust its government.

Basically my thoughts are, if you give slight pushback to American talking points you get called a tankie. It's kind of annoying.

THIS is why people have a problem with "tankies."

Budapest, 1956.
- My family comes from Iran and Iraq
  THIS is why I have a problem with "liberals"
  
  Baghdad, 2003
  
  I've been doing antiwar protests since Iraq- absolutely massive and totally ignored by the government. It was a bit radicalizing.
  I've always considered myself an anarchist. These days I get called a tankie just for being opposed to wars and vocally opposing my own governments complicity in genocide. Somehow the meaning of tankie got flipped to mean the people opposed to sending in the tanks. Most ml's I've known are the first people to shit on Khrushchev anyways.
  
  Yea, neoliberal ideology is fucked all around. I prefer progressives over self declared libs.
  
  Ah yes, the famous liberal, George Bush.
  
  Two things can't be bad at the same time, I guess.
- Whatever you do, don't look up the numbers of Soviet officials lynched before the tanks were sent in, or who the counter-revolutionaries set free from prison to help with the lynching and rioting (spoiler: literal Nazis).
  
  Hey dont forget who funded and equipped the counter-revolutionaires (The CIA)
- Beautiful ✨🥲
- They have a problem with stopping a fascist counter-revolution that did anti-jewish pogroms and elevated the landlord class in Hungary?
- Were you aware that Russia agreed to USSR's/CIS liberation? All of it was peaceful.
- Marxist Leninists are defined primarily by two principles:
  Anti Imperialism / Internationalism
  Defense and Construction of Socialism
  It means that the Soviet Union was chiefly responsible for ending the Holocaust and supporting liberation struggles around the world. It means Cuba was able to transform itself from a strip-farmed slave and prostitution hell into a Democratic republic governed meaningfully by the Cuban people with dignity and education for all. All across east Asia it's secured home rule and governments who meaningfully care and are comprised by regular working and peasant peoples. Marxism Leninism is the historical force which has been shown to be most able to grapple with the complex realities of our world dominated by white supremacy and capitalism, and fought back.
  It's the reason that the supposed atrocities commuted by socialist countries are minor compared to the grand historic crimes of empires like France, Britain, the US, Germany, Japan, etc. Mistakes are made and have been made by socialist countries, sure, of course; but they were the first nations to attempt to meaningfully house people for the sake of housing. They were the first projects to successfully overthrow colonialism, and to raise literacy rates to an absurd degree even higher than in the United States today. These socialist projects need to defend themselves because very few other historical forces have shown anywhere near the potential to make a better world.
  So call it whatever you like, it'll never erase the monumental good it's done for the world.
  THIS is why people have a problem with Anti-Communists
  
  Statistics from 80 days into a ~460 day genocide, Gaza, 2025

Well that's a strawman if I've ever seen one

A tankie seems to be supporting Russia, with Russians support, defending itself from NATO expansion. Many communities view US empire objective of diminishing Russia to be a supreme right, and the "virtue of democracy" that all demonism must be true.

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