no one under 50 gives a rat's ass about great grandma's "look at me i'm victorian high society" china cabinet. when i managed an antique store we had more old people coming in trying to sell their shit than we had anyone coming in to buy. went out of business because antiques are dead for the next who knows how many generations
It certainly depends on the item but I agree that no one cares about the junk grammy bought twenty years ago from Sears that was meant to look like the real stuff. At the same time, though, I've been on a real Meissen binge for the past few months. Good china definitely has some value and is beautiful to look at and display
It's an interesting market. Some individual pieces on Missing Pieces go for more than an almost complete set would to someone walking into a thrift shop.
everyone's got something they'll spend extra money on just for its looks. increasingly though, people are realizing that the $150 plates aren't doing any better of a job holding their dinner than the $20 walmart plates
not only that, but the idea that you need a different plate for bread, a plate for entree, a plate for salad, a plate for pasta--it's asinine. gotta be one of the bigger scams of the industrial age. same thing with utensils: you've got your dinner fork, dessert fork, fish fork, salad fork, fruit fork, and on and on. um excuse me, fuck all that noise, give me 1 plate and 1 fork, and call me an uncultured philistine if it makes everyone feel better, but i'm not buying all that crap
It is weird to think that there is (or was) and industry entirely based around trying to sell things that aren't in style or simply not as functional compared to modern stuff.
Never made sense to me to keep cutlery and plates and stuff that never gets used to show "yes this is the place where eating happens."
“and according to my new wall art, this is the room where we live, laugh, and/or love. Namaste”
back in the day bored housewives used to love to throw dinner parties just to show off their fancy serveware, pretending that they're downton abbey or something. i've experienced it, since it's the same shit at every holiday get together. it's almost surreal, sitting in the midst of a perpetual conversation about dinner plates, very similar to dudes at a superbowl party, except the plates are the superbowls
I read Second Hand by Adam Minter. Apparently it’s all the rage in some developing nations. To the point where the antique store owners he interviews in the Midwest have a direct line to some dude in Africa.
Idk I found some royal doultan that I really like but it’s simple not flowery
too expensive, ikea is $20
Complete nonsense.
Not to sound too harsh but this is just so silly, blanket assuming that everybody on the planet under the age of 50 are not interested in something that's been pretty commonly popular, just because your individual experience of running a shop in one town in one country happens to suggest that cool stuff like this isn't popular.
How do you know your town's demographics were a completely average in every way representation of you own nation's demographics (nevermind the world) - not skewed by age ranges, gender, wealth, occupational discrepancies, etc?
How do you know your failed business is due to your product being unpopular, Vs your business being poorly advertised to its target demographic (who you think doesn't exist...), or maybe overpriced compared to the available expendable income of the local population, or in a location that wasn't ideal for target demos to travel to, or they didn't like the vibe of the place, etc etc.
There's so many possibilities that it's ridiculous to make such a sweeping blanket statement about everyone's tastes based on your extremely subjective and limited experience.
For example, myself and many of my friends, colleagues and acquaintances would kill for that collection, it's rad, and we're decades away from 50 haha, many of us are in our 20s! We're slowly building our own collections up as we go through life and loving it :-)
I myself just recently got a lovely porcelain teapot that now sits on the mantle next to my other Victorian porcelain, glassware, etc, and I love my display and storage cabinetry, I plan to build my own eventually using traditional joinery <3 I'm on the lookout for more tea china still too, not enough for High Tea with more guests yet, and that simply won't do! :-D
I know I come across a bit harsh here and I'm sure you're lovely, just consider not making blanket assumptions about the interests and tastes of the 5,500,000,000~ people who are under the age of 50, you know? :-)
My job is to declutter homes and we would most likely throw everything away you can see on this picture. Old peoples homes are often filled with these things and no one will buy it if we try to sell it at our second hand store for a cheap price.
ok. you and your friends give a rat's ass about it.
no one else does.
https://blogs.deloitte.co.uk/mondaybriefing/2021/08/whatever-happened-to-the-antiques-market.html
https://www.joshuakennon.com/antique-furniture-prices-have-collapsed/
https://www.antiquers.com/threads/what-has-happened-to-the-pottery-market.5906/
https://www.antiquesage.com/collectibles-market-dying/
the only old stuff that's actually worth a high price is quality furniture: storage chests, tables, cabinets, shelves, etc-- made from old growth wood and built like a tank. that stuff will last generations and will probably still be cheaper than a modern piece of comparable quality (aka custom made by an artisan)
My mom has 3 different china cabinets and more glasses than the royal family. We only use the ones in the kitchen and maybe 4 in the new years.
The other day she said ahe would sell one of the sets, a very old time like tea set, but see that set was the last gift my granpa gave my grandma before he died and they are both gone...and my mom is getting older... and I had a anxiety attack thinking that she would get rid of that and started crying.
I think stuff Is just stuff, but idk man, it did hurt. Boy I'll have a bad time the day i have to get rid of those fucking glasses.
Definitely use them. Every time you do, you’ll think of them, and it will bring you joy.
I bought a set of 4 matched plates off eBay. It may be shallow consolation but some of those plates and what-not go to loving homes. My plates are classy AF and I love them
When my mother dies and I have to deal with all her crystal, I'll get roaring drunk and spend the night smashing those useless fucking things in the fire, cackling like a madman. I fucking hated looking at all that money spent on utterly worthless sparkly shit.
Oh gawd, don't remind me. My mom already tried selling it and couldn't find anyone to buy it. Of course, she blames kids these days for not valuing her obviously valuable collection...
you can't reason with them. no matter how much you try to tell my mom it's not the 90s anymore, she absolutely refuses to accept any reality other than her 10 giant plastic bins stuffed with beanie babies is a priceless collection
Well, if the market so undervalues that stuff, the logical step would be to go buy other people's beanie babies for cheap, before people realize how much they are actually worth. And then sell heaps of them for profit, once people come to their senses.
That's obviously a very stupid idea, that you could pose to her, and let her argue why she doesn't do that. Maybe it triggers a realization about how value is constructed.
But maybe it's not worth the risk of her taking up on this very stupid idea.My grandma got into snowbabies lol
Grammy needs to lay off the synthol
When my mother dies and I have to deal with all her crystal, I’ll get roaring drunk and spend the night smashing those useless fucking things in the fire, cackling like a madman. I fucking hated looking at all that money spent on utterly worthless sparkly shit.
There are websites that buy this stuff, this is just one example, and there are others. You can get a bit of cash without a ton of effort, just pack it up nicely and send it in.
Spoiler alert: they're probably not buying mass produced China sets even if they are nice.
Source: me exhausting all avenues of trying to part with vintage China set(s) and replacements.com telling me to politely fuck off.
and never use
Just like my degree
My grandad labelled all his tat with little coloured stickers. After he died, his children went round peeling most of their own stickers off so they wouldn't get lumbered with it.
Nobody really wants a bunch of nicotine stained nick-knacks. Most of it ended up at the charity shop.
These teacups are much more charming than stacks of mass-produced printed mugs.
On the other hand, Grandma, you'd better not know that I'll be washing them in the dishwasher on a daily basis.
In 40 years time there's going to be a bunch of 30 year old Gen-Betas going "What the fuck am I supposed to do with all my grandmother's Rae Dunn crap? All this tacky white porcelain, just huck it in the ocean and let it erode."
"I've been trying to complete my Dad's collection of games on steam, in the last year I've completed 365 games and gotten up to 1%!"
After my mom died, my dad sold her China to her friend for a nickel. Which is great, because I would have just taken it to the VV Boutique and donated it.
I kind of miss some of the things my mom had around the house my whole life, but also I'd I kept it all, there wouldn't be room for my stuff. And I'm not putting Trypticon in a box so I can display some Franklin Mint goose plate.
I wonder to this day what happened to mom's Lladro figurines and the Royal Dalton tea cups. I'm sure my sister got Nana's sterling and Mom's plate. It's really sad that the Danish modern furniture had to go before she moved up here but she was happy with IKEA and CostPlus replacements.
I got her pots, which was all that mattered to me. There's something symmetrical in making Boeff Bourguignon in the same pot you learned to make beef stew at age 14.
Your mom sounds awesome
Boeuf
I got my maternal grandma's ancient le creuset enamel pots when she died. They're in perfect condition and we use them all the time.
She loved to cook, my mum hates to cook, and as luck would have it I married a woman who loves to cook. So the pots are in good hands 🥰
One or two pieces, sure. A whole fucking cabinet? No thanks.
Ok I am an outlier here but honestly I kinda like stuff like that. I'm not gonna pretend it's worth a million dollars (like they would be cool with you selling it anyway) but real China is actually really pretty and sturdy if you take care of it and has a lot of neat little pieces of history and stories related to it. I like antiques and the look of old stuff.
However
My mom once tried to give us old pilsner glasses, and the story was "Grandpa bought them and didn't like them so they've been in this cupboard since then", and then got really disappointed when I was seeing if a friend of mine wanted one since he's a real beer guy who might like fancy glasses.
So yeah if you already have plates, and your family history isn't as great or interesting to you, don't feel obligated to keep stuff you don't like. Donate it (to anything other than goodwill or salvation army) or whatever.
Edit; the irony was that night I got some china dishes that I didn't care about. Thanks irony gods
Thing is everybody's gramma has a cabinet full of china because it's mass produced. Just like diamond engagement rings or high school proms people in the mid-20th century made up a tradition of gifting sets of china to young women because of all the fancy dinners every single middle class woman would be hosting throughout her life.
What happened is a bunch of fancy looking plates sat in cupboards in dining rooms for decades while actual meals were eaten off other also mass-produced but slightly cheaper plates that were stored in the kitchen cabinets.
Why granny so jacked though?
Stirring cake mixes is no joke.
She's got some serious bingo wings right there.
My family moved my grandam out. So much glassware that they thought was going to be worth gold since its "local made back when this town meant something an had an industry and hard working people". Probably had a dozen different sets. I don't have the heart to tell her no one wants sets of old ass cups made in hick-town USA even if they are nice. Only took a few for memories.
Not to mention all my dads old toys they held onto thinking some one was going to make bank selling them. Just a trash heap unless you got someone who wants to make it there life's work selling smelly toys on ebay. The top we priced out was worth $60 minus the dry-rotting in a basement for 60ish years.
Hell, I got glassware from the house I moved into they just left behind and I can't get rid of it. May just leave it for the next sucker.
My aunt was losing her shit, that all stuff dropped in price from when she collected it in the nineties...
Tastes change.
I have to know, what sort of toys are you talking about? That your dad had?
Old beat up matchbox cars that barely survived his childhood, and these army action figures in space capsules(can't remember the specific brand, think it was big in the 80s GI Joe?). Looked them up and in great condition could get $100 but these were ok at best. Most of the toys just went to my sisters kids if they were interested, not sure whats still around.
I don't see the difference
Of course you don’t, you dido!
Babushka boy
Did you plan to leave WITHOUT EATING?
I go all out for Halloween. I've learned it's cheaper to buy Garage sale/thrift store stuff like this for creepy decorations, than it is to get stuff from Halloween stores or even the dollar store sometimes. I have the coolest "potion" bottles made of old decanters. The massive influx of stuff that came into thrift stores after covid started, was awesome, in the most morbid way.
after covid started
Because of Marie Kondo right?
in the most morbid way
... oh 💀
What, the curtains?
She's got huuuge tracts o China
Been there. I inherited my maternal grandfather's machinist toolbox. Had exactly one micrometer and two leveling blocks. The box itself was worth more. Old wooden kennedy. Wound up hockin it for gas money a couple years after getting it
Actually, i wish i had something from my grandparents. I found my grandfathers dvds in a second hand store.
What's the problem? Just do with those what you did to the dishes when the babysitter died.
Right on top of that, Rose!
Buy it and use it. It's fun kitch, don't let it collect dust. If it breaks, no worries, lots of it around.
What, the cabinet?
Tastes change. As Millennials get older, have kids, buy large houses, they'll want to fill them. All it'll take is a couple of social media influences to bring back such kitch. I can't believe that redneck beards have been in vogue for so long, but they came back from the slimy grave of the 70s.
Throw a giant kitch party!
Both parents died. I was left to clean out their house. Advertised a yard sale and then was willing to give away almost anything for free. Had to get the furniture out of the house to put it on the market. There were few takers for free stuff. Had to pay "Got Junk" to cart the stuff away
The trick is to put a sign up saying "any two items $5" and then turn away. Hopefully somebody steals it if they think it's worth something.
I just set stuff at the curb and people eventually took it. Even the IKEA particle board bed that sat in the rain for 2 weeks.
But some asshole put their shit in the pile.
