This shitpost is preventing shutdown

clicks cancel
"Rebooting"

You must have some malware at a very deep level of your system to have something like that happen.
- I mean that's just regular windows shenanigans. It often says it's waiting on some apps forever, and when you click cancel it tells you it's actually updating and that's why it's not shutting down.
- Inside the kernel, even!
- It's called Windows

Oh, I see the problem.

It's Windows 10.

Could be worse.

Could be 11.
- Ah, it seems like a race to the bottom.
  
  But I can't disagree with you there.
- Windows with copilot?
My Debian linux system hangs on shutdown about a third of the time. It's fun.
- Woah, watch out, the Linux lemmy users don't allow negative Linux posts. Thoughts and prayers for your family.
- Well ackshually I use OpenRC. You soystemd users and your stop jobs. I want my system to crash whenever I shut it down. no mercy /j
- Mine does that too. It's usually only for around 20 seconds, so it doesn't really bother me.
- RIP if you leave a Windows VM turned on and it does an update.
- Ubuntu sometimes does this to me, because of either some Snap thing or some CUPS thing.
and outlook
My work Mac refuses to restart until I force close my IDE.

Holy shit. I just remembered using windows and I think im going to be sick.

systemd-shutdown[1]: Waiting for process: ...
- shutdown && exit
  
  KDE: Broadcast message from user@hostname on pts/1 (Date and Time): The system will shutdown in 60 seconds.
- I shutdown once in a blue moon and even then don’t see this message often.
- Just don't use systemd. Use Void Linux and Runit
At work I use windows, at home I use Linux. They both have their annoyances. Linux more because of availability of apps natively running. And windows more because windows is painful to use as a power user.
- I also use Linux at home and am forced to use Windows at work. I disagree with Linux being more annoying, I've fully embraced the mindset that open source/Linux supported software is the only software that exists and I haven't had any issues since I switched years ago.
  
  Of course if you really really need some specific software for some niche that doesn't have a perfect open source equivalent that's a harder pill to swallow for some.
  
  I'm much happier on Linux, my windows work PC is nothing but a pain to use.
- Windows is harder to use as a casual user
  
  The only thing it really gets right are forced updates but the updates it gives aren’t great

i wonder what kinds of terrible and awful things are being done in the implementation of explorer.exe. i cant think of any filebrowsing task so performance heavy that it would interrupt a shutdown or cause any kind of noticeable delay when opening a new window.

Keep in mind explorer.exe is not just the file manager, but also the entire desktop itself.
- The desktop, task bar, start menu, Alt-Tab switcher, and a bunch of other stuff are in Explorer.exe. It's the second app that starts when you log in, after userinit.exe.
Caching is the only reasonable answer, but even that shouldn't be as bad as explorer.exe

If you just say yes and reboot it'll open back up all your open emails and drafts. I do the same for word.
Excel does not do that. Boo.

I hate that. Why would I want it to open 2 blank emails that only have my signatue in it? Just put it in drafts, I will empty those out in 6 months time. Same for word. I don't need to look at the guide from yesterday I didn't even edit I want a blank document please.
- Nah. It's super good. When your comp resets unexpectedly due to updates, all of the docs you were working on open back up. Extra important when a reset happens friday and you come in on monday. Even if the doc you were working on is located on an external drive that you're not currently connected to.
  
  For anyone that says to follow what IT tells me and to shut down all programs and the comp at end of day: no. That's what sleep is for.
Really? For me, Excel would try to open drafts even if I didn't change anything.

That's one thing Microsoft can't do: give us a check box that says "always do this" on some of the shut down hangs. My audio drive does it here and there...not enough of an issue to go mess with it. Still, my computer will patiently wait for me to click the damn button.

There is some kind of solution involving legacy windows tools straight from windows 7 or older. I had that issue with an early version of Nvidia Broadcast and I found a way to always kill the process when I want to shut down the computer. I remember it being an actual feature, albeit buried in the aforementioned legacy menus.
- Interesting, I'll have to take a gander. Thanks!