AOC wants to impeach SCOTUS justices following Trump immunity ruling
AOC wants to impeach SCOTUS justices following Trump immunity ruling
The congresswoman said the Supreme Court has become "consumed by a corruption crisis beyond its control."
Somebody needs to fucking do more than say "hey this should happen! "
For once, I just want Democrats to take a fucking bold brazen move. Seriously. This is why Democrats never control the narrative because they're always too gun-shy to do the right thing and stand by their own beliefs.
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Ditch the 81-year-old clearly suffering cognitive decline; run what would be a viral media frenzy that is an open convention and an American Idol contest for the American people.
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Or fuck it: AOC will be old enough to be President this year. Even if she can't get the nomination, she should start campaigning literally today until 2028, just like Trump does.
Edit: Sorry, going to move this to the top of the thread because it's too important:
Before going forward, let me be clear: I want to be convinced that we're not fucked. I really do. The past three days I've gone into detail about how I think we're fucked and looking for anyone to make a sound, data-driven argument that shows we are not. I've yet to be convinced by one, and bear in mind I voted for Biden once and would vote for a corpse if it meant preventing the convicted felon getting keys to the WH again.
There is ample evidence that a not insignificant amount of swing voters either saw past the old man voice to what he was actually saying and standing for, as well as recognized how badly Trump did, even though literally everyone only focuses on Biden, just like always.
Please show me these! Because these are all the surveys I've so far seen:
Post-Debate: "72 Percent Say Biden Unfit Mentally, Cognitively."
Post-Debate: "Voters think Harris is more fit than Biden to run the country"
Post-Debate: "Swing state voters react to presidential debate, Biden’s weak performance"
Post-Debate Focus Group: "Undecided voter focus group leans toward Trump after debate"
Let's face reality:
- Biden is 10.5 points nationally below where he was at this time in 2020 in polling versus Trump.
- Biden is currently losing in nearly every single battleground state.
- Biden is losing a significant number of Black and Latino voters compared to his 2020 run.
- Biden's aggregate approval ratings for Presidency are 37.9% with 56.3% disapproval.
To me I view it as a known loss versus a known risky chance. At this point, personally and given all the data I've thus far presented, I am that convinced that we will lose. Polling shows people deeply unsatisfied with the current candidate. I think critical swing-state voters would just be happy to vote for a fresh face that is younger. Like Mehdi Hasan said, "Americans like new shit."
So I don't know how how you can say with a straight face that Biden is more successful while simultaneously dodging the obvious fact that there is a significant decline in physical and cognitive performance. So let's recap:
We can downplay all we want, but this wasn't "one bad debate," for it wasn't even about the debat eitself but the revelation of Biden's senility piercing through echo-chambers. For the exact same reason Biden ASKED for this debate to reach important voters and show he's mentally fit (akin to the SOTU) and show Trump is not, it backfired 100% and there will not be another chance to reach 50 million voters at prime-tme. Trump has no obligation to take another debate; ending on that note is all that is needed.
- Biden took this debate because he is currently losing and needed to break the stagnant, steadily-declining polls.
- Biden's performance is worse than his 2020 run and in fact, worse than Hillary's losing run in 2016 by every single metric I can find.
- There is a MASSIVE amount of risk that Biden's condition deteriorates more rapidly between now and November, and following the convention there is no more backing out.
If I was a Republican strategist, I'd be doing everything in my power to keep Biden in the race because I know he'd be the weakest opponent compared to a fresh, younger face. Nate Silver, Ezra Klein, even former Obama/Biden staffers from PSA clearly agree.
Now if you agree with this and you say, "okay I see your points, but how can anyone else do better?" then we'll move on to that.
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The statement:
The Supreme Court has become consumed by a corruption crisis beyond its control.
Today’s ruling represents an assault on American democracy. It is up to Congress to defend our nation from this authoritarian capture.
I intend on filing articles of impeachment upon our return.
This is what leadership is, what voters want, and what wins elections.
Doesn't matter if it works, it's trying and highlighting that issues can be fixed. We might not succeed the first time, but we'll keep fucking trying till we do.
Put the votes on record and show voters where people stand.
"Hey everyone, things are NOT going our way in the Supreme Court, and we need to change everything about our judicial, political, and constitutional system!" - Sincerely, Democrats.
Fuck yes.
Okay I say we get behind AOC. This is important. WTF!
WHY DOESN'T BIDEN IMMEDIATELY USE HIS NEW POWERS TO DO IT
WHY DOESN'T BIDEN IMMEDIATELY USE HIS NEW POWERS TO DO IT
WHY DOESN'T BIDEN IMMEDIATELY USE HIS NEW POWERS TO DO IT
WHY DOESN'T BIDEN IMMEDIATELY USE HIS NEW POWERS TO DO IT
WHY DOESN'T BIDEN IMMEDIATELY USE HIS NEW POWERS TO DO IT
WHY DOESN'T BIDEN IMMEDIATELY USE HIS NEW POWERS TO DO IT
WHY DOESN'T BIDEN IMMEDIATELY USE HIS NEW POWERS TO DO IT
WHY DOESN'T BIDEN IMMEDIATELY USE HIS NEW POWERS TO DO IT
Lol we are so fucked.
DO IT! DO IT NOW! You have to show them the checks and balances. There is no god king, there is no one that is not accountable for their actions. Impeach every single one that was nominated by him. Illegitimate court.
Articles of impeachment is fine as this process stinks and I think this court failed, but we really, long-term, we need a constitutional amendment to make it clear that this is not okay.
I love the constitution, wonderful framework, but it needs the following amendments:
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Anti-corruption measures on the judiciary (looking at you Thomas). Provide some teeth to enforce recusal and avoid conflicts of interest.
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Term limits for justices and age limits on all elected/appointed officials at the highest level (justices, pres/VP, congress). Tie those to either the retirement age or a percentage of life expectancy (as we get older as a society, and work into our later years, federal officials should be able to remain longer too).
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Divestment requirements for all federal elected and appointed officials. i.e. no more insider trading, sorry.
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Replace the electoral college with a popular vote.
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Replace the filibuster with nothing. Fuck that thing. Let the legislators legislate. If, whatever it is, is a bad idea, it'll be shown to be a bad idea and the next congress will fix it. This is especially important now that Chevron is no more. The court just replaced rules created by executive offices with the most dysfunctional branch of government (congress) without any prospect of undysfuctionalizing themselves.
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Congress shouldn't be allowed to block supreme court justices without a vote. Once they are announced, they have X days to approve/deny or they are auto-approved.
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(edit) I can't believe this has to be done, but the President is not above the law. The president must follow the law while in office, following "official acts" or not. This is a fucking democracy, not a dictatorship.
While I know there are other ways to approach a lot of these and those ways are easier is not the point of my post. These are things that the constitution is currently WRONG about and it should just be fixed.
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They won't do shiiiiiiiit.
They should not only be impeached, but charged with 340 million counts of violating the civil rights of the American people (multiplied by dozens of rulings). Life in prison for those criminals.
You go get 'em, AOC. Personally, I'd like to see the Declaration of Independence rewritten so that it doesn't give this false impression about our form of government and kings.
I'm a little confused. Isn't their ruling just a deferral back to lower courts?
They didn't grant him absolute immunity, they just reaffirmed the incredibly broad language in Article II Section 3 of the Constitution.
They're not giving him immunity for everything he did as president, they just aren't interested in being the authority that decides what is or isn't an "official act". They are letting lower courts decide that.
If there's something I'm missing here, I would love to know, but it feels like people are misunderstanding this decision en masse.
It has become a necessity at this point. That is, if anyone wants to maintain any semblance of sanity
FUCK YES
Man, this country has turned into a fat joke. I'm just done
Yes pls
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The Democrat from New York wrote that the court has become "consumed by a corruption crisis beyond its control" and that it's "up to Congress to defend our nation from this authoritarian capture."
The Supreme Court has become consumed by a corruption crisis beyond its control.Today’s ruling represents an assault on American democracy.
It is up to Congress to defend our nation from this authoritarian capture.I intend on filing articles of impeachment upon our return.
In a statement after the ruling, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries said that Democrats would "engage in aggressive oversight and legislative activity with respect to the Supreme Court to ensure that the extreme, far-right justices in the majority are brought into compliance with the Constitution."
But the act of filing impeachment articles represents a significant escalation in Democrats' efforts to exercise greater oversight over the high court, which has faced numerous ethics scandals in recent years while issuing a spate of conservative opinions that have upended decades of precedent, including the overturning of Roe v. Wade in 2022.
The last (and only) time a Supreme Court Justice has been impeached was 220 years ago, when Samuel Chase survived an effort to remove him in 1804 over his handling of two politically sensitive trials.
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If they tank biden she should run heh
She's made this claim already, so far nothing
WHY DOESN'T BIDEN IMMEDIATELY USE HIS NEW POWERS TO DO IT WHY DOESN'T BIDEN IMMEDIATELY USE HIS NEW POWERS TO DO IT WHY DOESN'T BIDEN IMMEDIATELY USE HIS NEW POWERS TO DO IT WHY DOESN'T BIDEN IMMEDIATELY USE HIS NEW POWERS TO DO IT WHY DOESN'T BIDEN IMMEDIATELY USE HIS NEW POWERS TO DO IT
Too late. The damage is done. It will take years to reverse this decision.
She's just grandstanding.
Impeachment starts in the House of Representatives, which is controlled by Republicans.
It goes to the Senate for conviction and removal, which, thanks to the Republican minority, requires a 60 vote majority to move anything forward.
This is why I've been saying since the Trump impeachments, we have to control the House and the Senate first, then we can talk impeachment.
House - 219 Republicans, 213 Democrats, 3 vacancies.
https://pressgallery.house.gov/member-data/party-breakdown
*Rep. Ken Buck (R-CO) resigned effective 3/22/2024.
*Rep. Donald Payne Jr. (D-NJ) died 4/24/2024.
*Rep. Mike Gallagher (R-WI) resigned effective 4/25/2024.
Senate - 49 Republicans, 47 Democrats, 4 Independents that caucus with Democrats.
https://www.senate.gov/senators/SenatorsRepresentingThirdorMinorParties.htm
Joe Manchin III (WV)
Kyrsten Sinema (AZ)
Angus S. King, Jr. (ME)
Bernard Sanders (VT)
Okay, let's suppose this plan succeeds... Then what? Are we going to replace the court? Who said the new judges are going to be more or less the same regardless of political affiliation? And what exactly is there to stop the opposition from doing the same thing?
There seems to be more systematic issues involved.