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As someone who does LSD whenever she can (Which is... sadly not as often as you'd think)
This doesn't surprise me
I really want to experiment with psychedelics but I have no idea where to even start on obtaining them lol
You're on the internet. Halfway there.
*safely obtain them. I don't know how to tell apart legit sites and honeypots, and as a trans girl in Texas I am really really really worried about potentially being arrested. So I don't risk it, and I probably won't until I meet someone I can trust irl who can help me get access tbh.
Get a lysergemide analogue from a reputable chem site. Chems.ca comes to mind as the most trustworthy in the USA.
Technically not illegal as long as you say you weren't going to use it for human consumption. Research only.
Its more expensive than street L but depending on your sources most likely way, way cleaner. Its from a legitimate lab so you know its synthesized correctly.
Don't use darkweb sites of any kind in Texas if you're worried about getting in trouble. Just get the research chems they are cleaner than 100% of anything on a dark web market anyway. And also, technically legal.
Just get the research chems they are cleaner than 100% of anything on a dark web market anyway.
That's not bad advice in general, but why do you think dark web drug market traders wouldn't have an incentive to sell quality goods?
If you sell something adulterated, you're gonna get extremely bad reviews. Some modern recreational drugs users (especially ones who go so far to use dark web markets) are extremely savy about their own drugs. Testing kits and even proper lab testing is pretty common. If you live in continental Europe, it's no problem. More in some countries, less in others. But basically you can mail a sample to a lab from anywhere, for a fee. But in a lot of countries in Europe they're just available for free, for harm reduction.
You'd be kind of silly to think people who have a site who sell "novel research chemicals" haven't dabbled with illicit substances at some point or another. Having already the capacity to manufacture lysergemide analogues, they would have no trouble making a batch of LSD. And that's worth a bit more. It's just harder to get rid of sometimes, being illegal and whatnot. These legal substances pay less, but have much less risk, being technically legal (until the laws catch up basically).
I'm not trying to sound like a dick here, just it's a subject near to my heart. The illegal drug markets are so fucking vast that it's insane we as a society pretend that prohibition prevents people from getting and using drugs that we just forfeit all the money that could be made from taxing that as a trade, globally.
If I had the powers of a genie and could snap my fingers and the world just changed so that all drug purchases would have taxes on them, the amount of money gained with even a 10% tax could solve world hunger (if utilised properly.)
"With estimates of $100 billion to $110 billion for heroin, $110 billion to $130 billion for cocaine, $75 billion for cannabis and $60 billion for synthetic drugs, the probable global figure for the total illicit drug industry would be approximately $360 billion. Given the conservative bias in some of the estimates for individual substances, a turnover of around $400 billion per annum is considered realistic."
https://www.worldometers.info/drugs/
Back in July of 2021, U.N. World Food Programme Executive Director David Beasley told us it would take an estimated $40 billion each year to end world hunger by 2030.
https://www.wfpusa.org/articles/how-much-would-it-cost-to-end-world-hunger
And personally I'm of the opinion that the global drug trade value is severely underestimated. And 10% tax would be nothing. Compare for example to European alcohol tax rates, which are around 25-30%. The tax on tobacco here in Finland is around 50%.
Huuuge rant from one offhanded comment you made it. Don't take it personally lol I just like writing shit to distract myself.
If you're in Europe yes you will most likely get quality psychedelics. If you are a customer in USA and not getting international shipments (which is risky) you aren't going to get the best quality available. I'd say that's most likely true for cocaine too.
It just isn't going to happen because anyone with quality crystal L in the USA isn't going to just give it to anyone. What they would sell on the markets would be Champagne or lower quality I'd bet.
Sure you'll find people who say its needlepoint or Czech25 (lol) but it just doesn't make it true.
Also, have you ever ordered something from a vendor and it was absolutely shit but yet had glowing reviews? Its very easy to make tons of accounts and give yourself good ratings. The very nature of the sites make them anonymous. People do it to amazon reviews all the time and those can actually be traced back to a person but the market ones allegedly can not.
If you’re in Europe yes you will most likely get quality psychedelics. If you are a customer in USA and not getting international shipments (which is risky) you aren’t going to get the best quality available. I’d say that’s most likely true for cocaine too.
But you can get international shipping from anywhere, because the sellers don't care as much. They just have personal preferences pretty much. Some have packaging methods which get through certain customs reliably, others don't. The only thing that can happen for them really is that the customer says that they didn't receive the package and contests the escrow. Depending on the store, they'll solve it some way. For instance if you have a customer account with a lot of actions and one you contest, they're more likely to believe it. And some shopkeepers just send as long as you resolve escrow as soon as it is sent, so "with your own risk", basically.
So yeah, you can get quality drugs literally anywhere in the world. Honestly, customs catch a tiny amount of all the shipments made.
Its very easy to make tons of accounts and give yourself good ratings.
These online stores work quite differently. The trades you can see, the purchases, are actual purchases. Unlike in the real world, the cut for the marketplace is not in-significant, because they're the one taking the largest risk (since they're the ones who will get raided if law enforcement manages to crack the marketplace), so the trader creating fake reviews for himself would actually have to pay quite a lot, seeing as drug orders are usually quite a lot more valuable than, idk, clothing/trinkets from Asia.
Also, have you ever ordered something from a vendor and it was absolutely shit but yet had glowing reviews?
In regular online stores, yeah. On drug markets? Never. Because I filtered my traders so that they had hundreds and hundreds of reviews. Because the trade is massive. Could they fake that? Sure? Do they need to? No. Would they, seeing how little it would profit since it would be caught pretty fast, as unlike with some Temu shopkeepers who send some garbage, the customers actually put in detailed reviews of the shit they received. And if there was like a dozen reviews and even two said shit, I would never trust a trader like that.
Traders create sales by... having sales. Introductory offers. It's always a bit of a gamble, especially in the dark web, but there are people willing to do that gamble, because again, the trade is massive and people can send packages all around the world, so some people will look at some dirt cheap coke that's an introductory offer and actually receive prime quality blow. Ofc he will then put a good review. Someone else will be even more likely to gamble the same thing. Once he has a few reviews, he reigns in the offers, and is somewhat reliable, and once you've hundred(s) of reviews, you can have "regular" prices. Which still often were quite a bit lower than street prices. But that's because drugs in Finland are somewhat expensive.
As I say, people really underestimate the drug trade. It's well established and there's no putting the technology back in the box. Drug trade used to be facilitated almost purely through cartels, but now the lower level people don't have to be connected to those people at all, since online distributors are anonymous, you never meet them, and they're the ones getting bricks from importers (or importing it themselves.)
The very nature of the sites make them anonymous. People do it to amazon reviews all the time and those can actually be traced back to a person but the market ones allegedly can not.
Yeah. Isn't it ironic, then, that most of the time (aside from the shops closing/getting raided, which is a minority, but still a part of it), they're the more reliable ones? People know that anyone could be anyone, so the reviews are more significant. Which is why all those paragraphs earlier sort of explain that.
Ooo, I will keep this in mind!
a trans girl in Texas I am really really really worried about potentially being arrested
Okay, yeah, I can't definitely understand that.
I'm unsure as to how much of this I can talk about here, but what online stores have going for them is often safety and reliability. Unless the markets are "cashing out", they're usually safe.
("Cashing out" as in they have a functional market people use, then when it's been going for a while, they're decide to end it, they just stop relaying orders but keep the money that's in escrow, usually still get action for some days/weeks, leading to huge profits.)
That being said, you'd need a safe mailbox to order to, so as not to order drugs to your own home.
But yeah, IRL can be better, especially because you can then have someone who instructs you or acts as a tripsitter if you feel like you like to have one.
IRL can also be worse, because you don't really know what you're getting for a certainty. Unlike with online traders, because you can choose someone who has hundreds of positive comments and a good rating.
People honest don't know how easy getting drugs is in most parts of the world, which is what makes it hard for them, which in turn makes it easy for everyone who does know, because you can quite comfortably do your business in front of people who are totally oblivious to it.
But yeah. Don't get arrested in Texas for drugs as a trans-girl, I strongly agree with that. Hope Harris wins and the US could perhaps improve a bit. Stay safe, sister. <3
Yeah the delivery part has always been what's worried me the most. I don't know anything about getting a secure mailbox because as I understand it, any delivery point that belongs to you can be traced back to your name. And the only options I have are my house and the UPS/USPS office for delivery.
Also yeah I'll be voting for this election, hoping for a Harris win too and also for Allred to finally kick Cruz out of Texas!
as I understand it, any delivery point that belongs to you can be traced back to your name.
Pretty much yeah.
The defense I used here in Finland was that since you can't trace who sent it and there's no verified money traffic from me to a drug dealer, they can't really prove it's me.
If I knew your address, I could send you a bag of drugs. Would that make you a criminal? Even if you didn't want it? If it does, then shouldn't I just mail anyone I don't like in the US some weed, basically?
My point is I don't know how the laws about that sort of thing work over there, but I knew how they worked here, so I was at customs several times telling them I don't know shit about any drugs that came to my address. They knew that I knew that they knew that I knew that they knew. You know? But it didn't matter the slightest, because there was no way of connecting me to the drug order. I think I even bought the bitcoin from my account, but it's like if you had taken out cash at an atm. Ofc drugs are bought with cash, but factually connecting you taking cash from your account to you using it to buy drugs is something they have a hard time doing.
But yeah, I knew how these things worked here. They just always had to drop the charges despite it being extremely clear I was guilty, because no evidence. So I'm not gonna suggest anything for you, as the sentences are a bit harsher for all drug things in the US. Well, except for weed, since it's legal in some states. Even though it's still illegal on the federal level. Crazy.
Yeah it's legal in Colorado and I had some fun with it while I was there. But now in Texas even though I'm of legal age I cannot get access to weed legally (except for delta-8, but they're trying to ban that too). And that also means the quality of weed is much, much worse. The smell of good quality legal weed from the boutique dispensaries in CO are very pleasant and calming to me, but I absolutely cannot stand the smell or taste of the "skunky" stuff, which in my experience pretty much all illegal weed tends to be. So I don't have much interest in obtaining weed in Texas, especially because I don't plan on staying here. My current plan is to get a degree and get out of the country, ideally move tosomewhere in Europe. Not sure exactly where yet, but I've narrowed down a list with the Netherlands, Belgium, Spain, Estonia, and Switzerland currently at the top (and yeah ik weed isn't legal in all those places either but from what I've seen the punishments seem to be far less severe). So I'm not really chomping at the bit to get access to drugs right now, though it'd sure be nice if more things were legal here.
I've found multiple friendly employees at vape shops in both Arkansas and Oklahoma, especially in the college cities of course. But that might be a productive avenue that's worth trying out.
Best of luck from an ally not too far away!
I know they ain't quite the same, but you might be better served at finding some spores. It's the mushrooms that will get you in trouble.
Peyote might be an option given your locale.
I feel like I remember hearing bad things about Peyote? Not sure if that's what I'm thinking of. No idea how to grow spores (or really anything for that matter), I suppose I could learn at some point but for now it's not something I have the time nor resources to really sustain.
It's a different world these days. Two decades ago I'd do rails of molly out of an Altoids can which was being passed around a festival campsite. Now anything can have fent in it. Shit sucks and I kind of feel bad that kids these days have to deal with this.
True, you have to teach people how to obtain and use testing kits
do I have three days to burn on this
Your thought to yourself, probably
I would love to try LSD, but I'm too worried about serotonin syndrome because of the medications I take.
Serotonin syndrome is somewhat of a phobia more than a rational fear with modern medications.
Unless you're taking a MAOi, which I somewhat doubt (as they're not really used anymore due ti safety concerns and whatnot), you should be alright.
Serotonin syndrome is still sort of in the recreational drug users mythos, because being too careful isn't really harmful, and people don't really understand neuropharmacology that much, so they tend "not to risk it."
(MDMA and LSD are both serotonergic, but MDMA is more risky in terms of serotonin syndrome than LSD.)
I'm not suggesting anyone on medications reads this and thinks I'm saying it's a risk-free thing, but since we be adopted SSRI instead of MAOi, it's not nearly as big of a risk. MAOi and psychedelics was honestly very risky.
SSRI's tend just to blunt the effects of psychedelics/mdma. If you keep to normal recreational doses, it should be fine. From the article:
Again, the real danger lies in what both Charlotte and Nilu describe as a chase to catch up with their friends who aren’t on antidepressants.
“You won’t be getting the euphoric, psychological effects you want by taking more, but you will be getting more of the physiological effects – higher blood pressure, higher heart rate and higher temperature, which is a bummer,” says Dr Sessa. “These are not normally dangerous. MDMA is a relatively safe drug. We know that because so many people take it and come to no harm. But in excessive doses, because you’re trying to overcome the effect of being on the SSRIs, these may become dangerous.”
So no need to be that worried about the side effects, but also while you're on SSRI, the experience probably will be a bit muted and you might have some slight discomfort. Who knows, it's a bit personal and depends on your meds. If you're just on a rather low dose of SSRI, it might not really affect the trip at all.
Not trying to advice, just informing a bit as I'm pretty well versed on the subject even if I do say so myself.
It's more complicated than that and I think it's just not worth the risk. I have a nerve disorder which I take the medication for, and it's three medications: an SNRI, a GABA analogue and an anticonvulsant. I just don't know that adding LSD into a mix like that is a good idea, because even if none of those individually could cause it, collectively, who knows? It's not like it's a common mix.
But I do appreciate it.
I won't pretend to have such deep knowledge as to claim to know they're safe, but as far as I'm aware (which again, is some, but am not a medical professional), the N of the SNRI shouldn't really be affected directly. But that doesn't mean that if you get a little bit jittery when you're going up that you won't have increased norepinephrine which would then be blocked from reuptake.
So yeah, it's somewhat more complicated. Anticonvulsants are basically what you'd use to come down from a trip (depending on which type, there's a lot), so I don't see any obvious risks in that either. GABA should likewise not be a problem, as not directly affected, and like anticonvulsants, some of them are used as anti-psychotics.
However with those meds, even if I could say it's safe (whichever again, I can't, but personally believe it to be of low risk, due to the things I've read concerning), I don't know if I'd say it's worth it, really.
Like you wouldn't enjoy a night out if you had the flu, basically, but it wouldn't be that risky. Even though like getting a bad case of pneumonia and not treating it might be fatal, but quite a small risk. Probably on the same level, these risks.
collectively, who knows?
No-one, honestly. But the internet is pretty hard at work on it.
Although they started with recreational polysubstance combinations, actual meds don't appear on the list too often unless they can be uses recreationally.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_polysubstance_combinations
But yeah, safety is #1 when using drugs.
As a former recreational user of many substances(not LSD though), I understand your hesitancy. I had many great experiences on shrooms so I tend to recommend that before LSD. I just think it's not as intense and has a lower probability of negative interactions or experiences, but that's just based on what I've seen/heard/read. There are knock off versions of shrooms in vape shops but I have no idea what they are like.
I appreciate it. I've done shrooms before I got on this medication, so I do know what that's like. I just am not going to take any chances these days.
It's very much a different strokes for different folks kinda thing. People I know prefer LSD and other, closely related lysergamides because it gives a bit more of an energy boost - I've heard it described as shrooms with a shot of espresso. Others prefer shrooms because it's a little more laid back feeling.
Granted, your set and setting is really going to set the tone for whatever psych you ingest. Things can go amazingly or very, very badly with either substance depending on your headspace and how you set yourself up/structure your environment for the experience.
It comes around when it comes around. We don't pick.
I figured you'd only really be able to buy it in bulk on the dark web.
Or just go to a festival
Until very recently festivals were a major source of LSD distribution in the U.S.
Not so much regular attendees buying 10 strips but people who know each other meeting up at various festivals to exchange larger quantities of dry, crystal LSD. I don't know how much it's changed in the last decade or so, probably not that much.
True! You used to be able to track LSD in the US by looking at the grateful dead tour schedule, matter of fact lmao.
Now you have to find where the family is gathering, most festivals are too risky with research chems.