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  • Also not a plan or a solution. You're free to attack me all day - it won't change anything one way or another. I just wish I could hear SOMETHING about what you expect people to do instead of what you expect them to NOT do.

  • Every single time, it's like a broken record.

    Nobody thinks the democrats did the right thing in 2024. It's not like you're delivering some special message everyone didn't get. The primary was shit and the party is shit. I'll give you the gold star for correctly identifying that there's a problem if you want. But identifying the problem is not a SOLUTION. What's your plan? What have you got? Because all I see is endless harping on the problem, and that's nothing.

    There's microplastics in the food. So what? Am I going to stop eating?

    Any schmuck can sit there and complain and nitpick. Let me know when you've got ACTIONS TO TAKE TO SOLVE IT. Contradiction is not a plan.

    The way I'm constantly hearing complaints and observations without a lick of solutions or activity, it's like I'm listening to the mainstream media.

  • Okay, that may be the case, and that may be fair, but if you're only posting into instances that already support you, is it really helpful?

    No third party candidate will win without support. Support must be visible and passionate. And it must be visible and passionate to people who aren't already on your side, otherwise it's an echo chamber. Nobody - not Republicans, not Democrats, not Greens, not Socialists, is going to win by waiting for people to come seek THEM out.

  • Okay, it's my turn.

    The democrats don't inspire you with confidence? Fair.

    The greens? The socialists? I've looked at Jill Stein... I've looked at De La Cruz... They don't impress me either. In the same way you don't owe the democrats a vote, progressives don't owe a vote to a candidate just because they're not a republican or democrat. Find someone inspiring and take advantage of the fact the internet has unprecedented reach.

    I just looked at your post history. You've been here a year. I don't see a SINGLE post supporting a third party candidate. You're not stumping for Stein... You're not stumping for anybody. Do you want them to MAGICALLY gain support?

    Speaking of practicing what you preach.. How am I supposed to get behind a third party candidate when the people who are ostensibly on that side can't even be bothered?

  • Warning them clearly isn't doing anything. They're not going to change. They're not getting behind anything truly progressive. But I don't see the 3-9% of American voters building an alternative. That's a PRETTY big number - that's millions of people... are they all just content to criticize and not actually MAKE an alternative? The rest of us are here - surely some of you are motivated enough to give US an alternative to the democrats? Why is it the democrats that have to make an alternative that's palatable to YOU? This argument goes both ways, you know.

    And the CLINCHER is it doesn't have to be either/or. It's ENTIRELY possible to both do the bare minimum AND also build the alternative at the same time.

    But no, we're just gonna ride the worst of both worlds into hell. Fine by me, I guess.

  • The bare minimum. Admittedly it's not much, but even .0000000000000001 is infinitely larger than 0.

    I'm not any less disillusioned with the system than you are. But I also admit to myself honestly that I am not going to get out there and man the barricades. At least the minimum is SOMETHING.

    You don't like the options? Fine. You should at least be building another one. What are you, a nihilist?

  • So you're actively building the alternative right now, right? You're gonna have another party ready to go next election cycle? Link me to your projects. Surely you at least have some promising candidates lined up? And you're out there getting the word out about them?

    Or are you just going to criticize and nitpick because it's easier?

  • Everybody buckled in for at least 3 and a half more years of headlines that everyone already knows and nobody will do anything about?

  • I feel like it’d be canon for him to be Naomi Wildman’s first officer.

    Thanks. This made me spit take on my monitor.

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  • I am so sick of seeing people abuse the word "tremendous" like this following in asshat's footsteps, but at least it's a nice, straightforward way for me to identify people to hit with a baseball bat if I can ever get away with it.

  • It's a lot like the mid-late 90's non-Beavis and Butthead MTV animation in that it's unapologetic about its poor animation and art or its completely unhinged premise. It doesn't get better, but if you let yourself get into its groove you will become more open to it and enjoy it more.

    But it won't become more like something else.

  • That's the thing.... They don't want you to produce a better than average member of society. Better than average members are less likely to accept low wages in crap jobs without complaining. There are only a handful of good paying jobs in the future and those are for nepo-babies. Merit no longer matters.

  • Don't forget that if you dare take any of that knowledge and use it to exercise your free speech, the university can just deny the degree you earned and paid for at the behest of the government.

  • I mean, that's what OP is saying, but I'm saying it's too late. The Democrats COULD have prevented what's happening now, if for no other reason than they wouldn't have had the balls to attempt it, but that boat has not only sailed, it's been canonballed, torpedoed, sunk, and converted into a coral reef. There's absolutely no sense whatsoever in talking to non-voters about it anymore. It's done. There's no convincing to be done. If every one of the non-voters said today, "Hey, we'll vote for the Democrats next time"? Doesn't matter. We're still EXACTLY as screwed. So no, I don't care why someone didn't vote and I'm not wasting my breath trying to convince them they were wrong. Nobody should. If there is any path forward, it isn't at the ballot box and it won't involve people who are happy to sit on the fence. Non-voters are completely irrelevant now. They had power in November and now they don't. If they want to help in whatever asymmetric BS we're going to have to pull to just save a modicum of civilization over the next decade, they can choose to do that or not. But their political power as a group, and with it, the value of talking to them? That evaporated half a year ago.

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