I'm not trying to be rude, but this does sound like incel rhetoric minus the woman hating. I see tons of short fat guys with weak jaws or, no cheekbones or even slightly balding. Get some pretty women and even marry them.

I see these people too. They're usually older and in more conservative areas. Dating for young people is completely different and for every awkward guy I know that got a girl, I know 10 that have been single their whole lives. I'm not fatalistic, it's just not likely for this to happen.

You telling me 'oh all women seem to hate me and it's because I'm not a chad' is kind of lame to me.

I don't think women hate me, they just don't view me as a potential partner. I've made friends with a few while trying to date. They're simply human beings reacting rationally to their environment. If the situations were reversed, most men would probably choose a chance at a very attractive partner over a guarantee with an average one.

I'm happy you're not a misogynist, but you still have some warped thinking you need to work on.

Honestly I just feel gaslit by society at this point. At what point will my years of rejection be enough to show people that I'm unwanted? I worked on myself, put forth effort, made friends of both genders, got some dates, and I still haven't met a single person who even considered me on option. There isn't someone for everyone. That's cruel I think its crueler that we pretend if these people just got out more they'd all be able to find someone. It's why you shouldn't tell kids in poverty that they can become president if they work hard, the circumstances of your birth determine how far you can go.

It sucks but there's more to life than a romantic partner. Besides that I'm pretty fulfilled. Give it a few more years of trying and then I'll give up forever.

lol wtf it's because hetero women tend to date older

True, but only 3-4 years older on average.. Since "young" in this case covers 18-29, women dating older is insufficient to explain the massive discrepancy.

In all fairness, the rate of "serious relationships" is only a 10 point difference as opposed to 30 points but that doesn't conflict with my original statement. That being young women casually dating a smaller pool of men but not necessarily entering into a serious relationship.

That's probably me minus the misogyny.

I did the whole self-improvement meme, got fit, lost weight, made friends, joined social groups, cut my hair, got a skincare routine, clothes that fit, etc etc. While it did help me make become more outgoing, I'm just too unattractive to realistically get a relationship. I even got a couple of first dates after talking to some folks on Discord. We got along great, bantered, and even had a nice emotional connection. Then we meet up and they see my face and suddenly it gets awkward. There's a look in their eyes when you go from a potential partner to ugly friend that just hurts.

90% of non-misogynist incels would be good partners, but no one wants to date them. A significant reason why 2/3rds of young men are single and 1/3rd of young women are single is because a subset of women prefer to date the same man with the hope that eventually they'll be exclusive. That or they're unaware that the men they're after are casually dating other women. Unattractive men are invisible, the only chance they have is personality. But personality means very little in a dating market that's very young and using mostly apps. If these people could get dates, they'd have a relationship eventually. But getting dates as an unattractive man is almost impossible.

It does get a bit better for men when you're older but I'd be too bitter at that point. Knowing that the only reason you'd be given a chance is because everyone's old, less attractive, and wanting to settle down is a poison that would eat away at me. Even if my partner sincerely thought I was a catch after getting to know me, it still hurts to be the last of someone's options.

I'll probably never get a partner and that sucks. But I do have friends and hobbies to work towards.

It's weird reading fan-translation done by high school kids from 15 years ago. This person is talking about exams in their little blurb at the end and I'm like this person is now 35 years old.

Butter, that is peanut butter.

I eat like 5 tbps of the stuff a day and toast is a good way to eat it.

Anyone that even critically supported succdems should be fucking embarrassed rn.

I can't believe the fire-brand "left" are one of the few groups still going to bat for genocide Joe.

Okay, but also all the white "feminist" Hilldawg people would absolutely seethe for her term and that would be really funny.

Lots of younger queer groups have a discord. You can get to know people before meeting them in person. Also helps filters out groups filled with gay but shitty people.

Pop in and see if you vibe. Low risk, and they'll probably have information on meetups.

I have no idea where you're getting this from. Saying someone is a Lumpenprole isn't a moral judgement, just an economic one. Someone who grows rice and the bandits that steal it have different relations to the means of production. They are not just proles who break the law.

it's ridiculous to try to carry that notion forward to the age of cell phones and heavily armed maoist prostitutes

Engels was largely revolutionary but he was also bourgeoisie, that does not mean that the bourgeoisie as a class are revolutionary. Also, many ML theorists argue that Lumpenproles do have revolutionary potential while not denying they exist as a class.

That was unconfirmed last I heard.

Do you have a source that says one way or another?

A mix between distracting myself with media and coping with spirituality.

In the current world, we're stuck in the middle of a dark stormy ocean being thrown about by forces beyond our control. The most we can do is to attempt to build a raft and wait out the storm. Maybe you'll be picked by another's raft tomorrow and be fine. Maybe you'll drown before you even have a chance to build your own.

The only real vice I have is mayo and other condiments. Everything else is either relatively healthy or homemade and sparse. I still eat processed slop when I'm on the road but it just doesn't taste good anymore and I feel worse the next day.

Longer shower in the morning with soap to get you fresh and clean for the day. Short shower in the evening to get the dirt/sweat off so your bed stays relatively clean.

I wouldn't assume anything. That just means they voted in the Republican primary.

It's not an uncommon idea among libs to vote in the opponents primary to pick the option least-bad option.

Astrology is just a socially acceptable way to ask when your birthday is.

It used to be a bag of chips was a 3-4 bucks and it was a weeks worth of snacks. Now it significantly cuts into my food budget to get anything like that.

At some point, I just asked if I'd rather have a bag of chips or like 3-4 extra ingredients to season my regular meals.

Homemade chips rock. Get some powdered salt and vinegar flavoring and they're god tier.

I just wish they weren't still unhealthy.

The trailer is written like some off-beat PG-13 family comedy.

They should be going to the Grand Canyon with their new stepmom not fucking treasure hunting.

That's because you're drinking a bunch of tannins on an empty stomach. Operator Error, either eat something or git gud at drinking tea.

We already did this discourse, women do the exact same thing just with different traits.

If the Disney's Beast didn't have broad shoulders, large hands, and big forearms than his popularity among women would drop significantly. These traits are the male equivalent of "pretty face and big boobs." You could slap them on to anything and at least someone find them attractive.