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How do you separate art from its industrial ~~and commercial~~ origins?
  • Context is an important tool when determining authorial intent, but one can investigate a piece under the frame of the death of the author too should they want to understand more what they personally gain from a work or what someone else entirely gets out of it.

    Am I understanding correctly that you're suggesting an extension of death of the author to death of the industry to discern what one draws from art?

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    How do you separate art from its industrial ~~and commercial~~ origins?
  • To clarify, I'm asking in the sense of art made within larger businesses/corporations, wherein artists often give up some or all of the ownership of their work. Think of the fraught relationships between bands and their music labels, actors/directors and studios, developers/writers and publishers, etc.

  • How do you separate art from its industrial ~~and commercial~~ origins?

    In a similar vein to the question of separating art from the artist, I think it's also worth discussing how one approaches appreciating art despite its often industrial and commercial origins.

    Edited for clarity: commercial is sort of redundant, and may have given an impression of there being issue taken with any sort of money made from art, which wasn't the intent. Focus was intended more on industrial, i.e. bigger business, art output.

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    Or they go to adtech
  • [...] I just want to point out that automating things that exist purely in the digital domain is far easier than automating things like ship breaking.

    Not that you're saying otherwise, however isn't that even more of a reason more developers and resources should be allocated toward automating complex and risky physical processes?

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    Is there a meta-community for discussing ways to grow & manage Lemmy communities (not instances)?
  • That could be part of it, but I was thinking more in terms of sharing resources like what you linked in your other comment as well as other methods to encourage community activity.

    Also technical stuff like what to be aware of regarding banner/image resolutions, language settings, handling community handoffs to other moderators, etc. Basically a mix of more specific Lemmy support and general community building/outreach discussion.

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    Is there a word for when a business or other private organization unrelated to a government restricts/limits speech?
  • Right, I was wondering if there might be a distinct term so that it might be clearer that a private entity's action is not a violation of rights in the sense that a government action might be. Thinking mainly of why xkcd #1357 tends to come up a lot

  • Is there a meta-community for discussing ways to grow & manage Lemmy communities (not instances)?

    cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/24989007

    > It doesn't seem like it would necessarily fit either [email protected] or [email protected], and [email protected] I think may be more intended for Lemmy World community moderators.

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    How much of what you self-host do you keep LAN only over making accessible across the internet?
  • Each time I've read into self-hosting it often sounds like opening stuff up to the internet adds a bunch of complexity and potential headaches, but I'm not sure how much of it is practicality vs being excessively cautious.

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    What are some of today's slapstick cartoons in the vein of Looney Tunes or Tom & Jerry?
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    Which shows do you think ended too soon, or went on too long?
  • Disney knew they had a gap in their demographics for twenty-something dorks with disposable income.

    Hey, that reminds me, did you watch Mission Hill? I'm kind of split on it, but I feel like it may fall into the too soon territory. However I could also see it having outstayed its welcome if it had been more successful.

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    I'm tired with all this Big-Phone-Elitism
  • I hate hauling a small tablet around.

    Don't you mean a "phablet"? 😜 If that awful name had stuck, I wonder if it might have dissuaded the device enlargement.

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    I'm tired with all this Big-Phone-Elitism
  • While I don't disagree with most of what you mention, I do have to ask on a couple points...Isn't it probably significantly more expensive for them to make foldable screens than to make a smaller phone? Also wouldn't a larger device mean more materials involved which may mean similar or just as high costs as to engineer something more compact?

    Also these are open questions, I'm not expecting you personally to know one way or another, your comment simply inspired them. If someone else has some insight on them, would be interested to read it!

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    End of line: Last of Irelands phone boxes to be removed
  • In recent years, disused phone boxes have been donated to community groups and repurposed as defibrillator sites, tourism kiosks and even religious shrines.

    What sort of religious shrines, I wonder? Would these make for decent fae houses, or be regarded as an insult if arranged as such?

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    Lemmy has so few comments that I am now reading many more articles
  • I think it’s because nobody really wants to be the first to comment and offer an opinion that might end up going against the grain when a thread develops. There’s no ‘reading the room’ as it were.

    Why offer an opinion when one can ask something about the post instead?

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    Preservation
  • Tbh it wouldn't necessarily have to be lasers (not that I'll say no to lasers), but it followed from the OP so thought I'd ask. Do they use lasers for some tombstones...? 🤨

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    How do you go about appreciating, and keeping up with things?
  • Mm, I should clarify. I'm not really after advice so much as reading about how others go about the two to get a sense of where others may be coming from and only incidentally some stuff that I might try.

  • How do you go about appreciating, and keeping up with things?

    By appreciating I mean taking the time to take something in more thoroughly than skimming, while also not letting oneself lose track of what's happening around them.

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    What are some of the more popular *non-commercial* cultural things you're aware of?

    This could be things that once were commercialized but are now public domain, or have largely resisted commercialization to this day. In this context I mean this as aiming for profit and being sold/monetized.

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    Movies and TV Shows @lemm.ee ALostInquirer @lemm.ee
    Which shows do you think ended too soon, or went on too long?
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    What are some things you think tech people presume others know, and know how to do?

    It's helpful to take a few steps back from time to time to reassess where we're each coming from on our knowledge of tech (or anything) to better communicate.

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    How might one co-opt bad faith methods to spread helpful, good information instead?

    cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/22757703, but revised to try to find less individual focused ideas/responses.

    In thinking on the classic Sartre quote concerning the folly of arguing with anti-Semites as if they're arguing in good faith, as well as the Swift quote regarding reasoning being unable to correct an ill opinion one didn't reason themselves into...

    It's made me wonder if there might be some ways to play off of these approaches to spread beneficial information more than the harmful info they've otherwise enabled to abound. What might be some ways to pass along helpful or generally benign info without getting as caught in the weeds explaining things, continuing to allow more harmful info to flourish?

    For those unfamiliar, here are the quotes in question:

    “Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.” ― Jean-Paul Sartre

    And: "Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired." ― Jonathan Swift.

    (This second one takes on various forms.):::

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    Why does it seem that people dislike recordings of their voice more than photos of themselves?

    Personally, I'm not a fan of either, so it's always been a little interesting to me to run into people that are more averse to hearing a recording of their voice.

    (Also is there a dedicated term for audio-only voice recordings? 🤨)

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    How might one turn bad faith on its head to help rather than harm?

    In thinking on the classic Sartre quote concerning the folly of arguing with anti-Semites as if they're arguing in good faith, as well as the Swift quote regarding reasoning being unable to correct an ill opinion one didn't reason themselves into...It's left me thinking that perhaps a way to alter the path of those astray is to "play" them out of it, so to speak, but what might this look like?

    After all, despite Sartre's last somewhat optimistic sentence, you may easily find that many that argue in bad faith rarely fall silent for long, if at all, when pressed.

    For those unfamiliar, here are the quotes in question:

    “Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.” ― Jean-Paul Sartre

    And: "Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired." ― Jonathan Swift.

    (This second one takes on various forms.):::

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    What are some healthy and filling meals you enjoy regularly?

    Filling meals always seem tricky to me, healthy or otherwise, so I'm always on the lookout for more things to try.

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    If we're all caught in capitalism and inadvertently help market big business' products when discussing/suggesting them, shouldn't they be paying us for that marketing?

    I mean, sure, you can always not talk about or suggest them, but so much of what you're dealing with day to day is probably from some big business. Also I am aware of the concept of universal basic income, but I've not really seen it framed/discussed from this sort of perspective, which imo at least is morbidly funnier.

    At any rate, capitalists made this market where time's money and ya always gotta be hustling, so if they think they're owed free word o' mouth, well, who's all entitled then, eh?

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    When using AI and machine learning driven features, how much are they processing data locally vs. remotely?

    I'm sure it depends on the AI tools and features being used, but with all the "magic" obfuscation from companies surrounding them, it's not exactly clear how much of the processing is happening locally over remotely.

    With some of the text stuff, I'm relatively sure most of that involves data exchange to work, but for some of the image/video editing and audio processing? That's where things get much murkier, at least to me, and where this question is largely stemming from.

    I'm aware more processors are specifically being made to support these features, so it seems like there are efforts to make more of this happen locally, on one's own devices, but...What's the present situation look like?

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