Discord is nuking Nintendo Switch emulator devs and their entire servers
Discord is nuking Nintendo Switch emulator devs and their entire servers
And perhaps sidestepping its own policy in the process.
The amount of niche info that would have been found in searchable forum posts in years prior, that has now gotten sucked up into Discord where it can’t be found, fucking blows.
Absolute tragedy tbh, discord won’t be around forever. I weep for all the game knowledge that will be lost
There is, and there has never been value behind discord's closed doors. Don't waste your words there, it is like talking to the wind.
And imagine if public facing forums weren't mostly dead because of the "necroposting" hate moderator brainworm
Oops this discussion from 2017 is the number one google link for your niche topic ? Well, too bad, post in new and maybe in five years it will be #2 post on google for that topic.
Who put the nerds with no friends in charge of human social interaction ‽
Don't worry, I've got a copy and I'll host it all on my Discord!
Well, forums are not real time, and that's what most people these days want apparently.
So, on to the alternatives:
Element / Matrix:
- Lackluster moderation tools
- Voice channels not ready
- Signing up is hard / federation not well explained
Revolt Chat
- Run by very talented kiddies
- Not stable
- Not easily self-hostable
well, the problem is not that forums are not real time. the problem is that people use real time chats for things that should't be done in real time. like guides, which should stand on their own as an organized post, easily searched and found.
"real time" chats, that is, instant messengers, have their time and place. they have been around for a while, but they never really replaced forums. until discord came, which kind of then did. which i guess also resulted from facebook groups, twitter, instagram, and reddit first kind of partially replacing forums, after which then forums really fell out of favor, and discord really is way easier and better to interact with than any of the others mentioned (aside from maybe reddit). people are also just lazy and jusy use whatever works.
and people then started using discord like a forum since forums are almost dead and discord is just simple and easy. so many guides, info, announcements, etc. are put in discord like it is a forum since the admittedly amazing features for roles and bots make it convenient.
it all gets lost in a sea instant messaging organizing. to find something, one must go to one of a a bunch pinned messages in one of the bajillion channels that links to a post (i say oost, it is actually a message) which in turn links to a series of messages where someone knowledgeable posted something useful intertwined with shitpost messages fromither people. if you are lucky, someone made a google doc for a guide, but those also suck, and they are also not easily found unless you know the guy who knows the guy who knows which pinned message in which channel has the link to it.
Forums are the best? I still can get info from electronics forums from 20y ago and it's well organized.
I don't see any other alternatives, revolt chat is new and just a discord alternative that sucks as well while element is fricking bad at indexing stuff, you can't search anything there not to mention their bad encryption.
I just use chatgpt, a sufficient surrogate for the rest of humanity. At least as it pertains to knowledge before 2023.
Once again, privacy-disrespecring discord is nuking things to keep its own ass safe. FOSS devs, when will you ever learn?
Matrix is literally there.
Just host your own god damn servers alongside your webpage (assuming it's not running on Guthub pages)
And this lack of transparency is a great example of why I avoid Discourse.
I avoid Discourse
Discord. Discourse is open source forum software: https://www.discourse.org/
Well, that's a new one. I'm sure that I typed Discord, but evidently I failed. Thank you for pointing that out. I could blame auto correct, but even that is hard to check, since my keyboard recommended next word follows an evolution that I'm unable to grok.
As an aside, thanks for the link, I hadn't heard of the discourse forum software.
Similar to how GitLab can be selfhosted; Spacebarchat could be a good alternative; but at that point why not just do forums?
Like vinyl and Polaroid cameras, I want bulletin boards to make a comeback.
I want bulletin boards to make a comeback.
Why discord gets involved is stupid. This is why you self-host these things.
Fuck discord.
Go to Matrix.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Both Suyu and Sudachi began as forks of Yuzu, the emulator that Nintendo sued out of existence on March 4th.
Developers of Yuzu’s forks also claimed they were changing the code further, among other practices, in an effort to avoid pissing Nintendo off.
But it’s possible that people were sharing Nintendo’s cryptographic keys, firmware, or even entire pirated games in these servers despite those commitments.
Even if Suyu and Sudachi were infringing, Discord’s policy does not suggest it would permaban, much less nuke entire servers, on the first offense.
Discord did not answer questions about whether these users were repeat copyright infringers, had received any previous warnings, or were forwarded any takedown requests.
Nintendo isn’t just targeting Switch emulators with its latest round of takedowns but also some of the tools that aid them: it sent DMCA takedown requests to GitHub to remove 27 forks of the Sigpatch Updater, as well as Lockpick_RCM, kezplez-nx, and Incognito_RCM, which help Switch owners and developers obtain encryption keys.
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