Green Party candidate Cornel West owes more than half a million dollars in taxes and child support: Records
Green Party candidate Cornel West owes more than half a million dollars in taxes and child support: Records
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You think Cornell West is a Republican?
He's a spolier candidate that is openly backed by interest groups on the right. He isn't personally a Republican, or ideologically conservative, but he sure has some strange friendships.
I think Cornel West not paying his child support is one of very few things I dislike about Cornel West as a person.
One of the others, of course, being that he's running as a spoiler candidate.
Depends - are you measuring by weight or volume for his capacity of shit?
As bad as that debt is, it would be worse if it just up and mysteriously disappeared one day.
I hope folks are watching it like hawks.
I like Doctor West as a person, he's a fascinating guy, and a great speaker, but nobody in that much debt should be anywhere near elected office.
I think Cornell West made great contributions to philosophy. As someone with pragmatist leanings I enjoyed his works. I don't want him in a congressional or executive government role.
It's really a spoiled vote to vote third party. People can whine about how it's unfair, but it still won't change anything. Do you really think spoiling your vote will show it to the big guys? Well guess what? Now they're no longer in power and the other side is rejoicing in their own victory. Meanwhile there are those who understand that they won't get everything that they want, but at least they won't have a side that will try to take away their rights by nominating and then confirming a right-wing justice to serve for life on the Supreme Court.
It's a fundamental problem with a first-past-the-post voting system. Third parties act as spoilers. That's why I'm a proponent of ranked choice. It's not a panacea. It doesn't fix everything, but it removes the spoiler effect. Then people can vote their conscience with their first choice.
It's not a coincidence that the leadership of both parties hate it. They can't run a traditional campaign with wedge issues. Good. I'm tired of a divided country. The party leadership can suffer through appealing to a broad part of the electorate.
If you're in most states your vote will not matter due to electoral votes being all or nothing. Voting third party expresses your dissatisfaction with the major parties and helps to legitimize the third party in the eyes of others so it can have a chance in the future. And yes, everyone will always say this is the most vital election ever.
If I'm going to have a crook in office, I'd rather they be a crook that awakens people to the issues that matter such as medicare for all and ending the drug war. The bar is just that low
Lemmy still has a small user base. There's not a lot of people posting new threads. There's like... maybe 20 people (not counting bots) that are regularly posting content to this platform right now. And for what it's worth, OP is only posting one copy of each link, to this community only, so it's not even spammy behavior. It's all relevant to the community he's posting to.
If you have an issue with it, then post the links, yourself, before OP can. Be the change you want to see, instead of just whining and being nonconstructive. Focus on the content being posted, instead of the person posting it.
Op was encouraged to post the topics he wanted people to see. He's doing that now. I see nothing wrong with that.
How much are you posting? If near nothing you should delete your post.
Guess that helps explain how he ended up on the Republican payroll.
Couple of points: I like Cornel West. I used to listen to him regularly on the Tavis Smiley Show, and while I disagree with his religion, I generally approve of his politics.
The amount he owes is concerning, because it makes him vulnerable to undue influence, in the same way that Trump was. I don't really care that he owes back taxes, the child support is a problem IMO. People should take care of their kids, period. He's got the money to do it.
That said, I don't want him running as a Green; I want him running as a Democrat. Greens are largely fringe candidates, and the votes they win are votes that would likely otherwise go to Democratic candidates. Unfortunately, in our current system, that makes it probable that, unless there's a similarly popular Libertarian candidate taking votes from the Republican candidate, that the Republican is more likely to win. I am not a fan of Democrats; I find that they are unwilling to go nearly far enough on most things, and I strongly oppose their stance on 2A rights. But I oppose Republican far, far more. Given that I have a practical choice between Dems and Republicans at a national level, I'll vote Dem 95% of the time (I think I've voted Republican once or twice, but I honestly don't remember who, or under what circumstances). If Greens can demonstrate, through local and state level wins, that they have the power to win national elections, then I'll be happy to vote Green. And I do vote Green at a local level. But so far, they just aren't winning locally or at state levels in sufficient numbers to indicate that they have a snowball's chance in hell of winning a national election, much less a presidential election. West shoudl step aside once he's made a strong showing and convinced Biden to adopt some of his platform.
the votes they win are votes that would likely otherwise go to Democratic candidates
citation needed.
Here's a source for you. Note that People's World is a socialist new organization.
From the article, "The GOP has a long history of using the Green Party as a tool to siphon votes that might go to Democrats and of playing a spoiler role in our two-party, winner-take-all electoral system. And the Green Party leadership has opportunistically embraced the support, playing the role of what some describe as 'useful idiots.' [...] In 2016, Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein garnered 30,000 votes in Wisconsin; Trump won the state by 23,000 votes."
That just makes him smart. /s
Yeah imagine if he said something that juvenile.
Did he fuck a female slave of his and lie about the paternity of their love-child ?
Because prolly only like two or three POTUS on dollar bills did that.
Amd that debt is going to magically disappear the day after the election. Just you watch.
Some Republican will gladly buy him off with that debt. The whole Green Party is a Republican front to steal votes
It worked 6 years ago and there are clearly enough suckers out there that it could work again next year.
All they have to do is create enough apathy, mistrust and hate toward the DNC to convince a small slice of people into voting for them. Siphon off a few votes to the Greens. Siphon off a few more votes to JFK Jr. Siphon off a few more votes to those who will simply stay home on elections day.
who do you think they steal votes from?
But in terms of 3rd parties that draw from a major party the libertarians draw more votes from Republicans than greens from dems
He's just the latest version of Jill Stein that the right is rolling out to take votes away from the Dem ticket. Same ole story.
That's all they can come up? So he's still exponentially cleaner than your current set of warmongering, insider trading, union busting politicians. Your upvote shows you're just a right winger.
I have a man-crush on Michael Parenti, so, not a right winger.
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Exactly my thought. They obviously published the worst thing they found about him. And being in debt is bad how? That just proves he is not a corrupt, insider trading, oligarchy favouring candidate. And what proportion of that "half a million" is missed child support payments? It could just be $10 child support + 499,990 debt = A headline that makes him look like he owes 500,000 in child support!
Exactly my thought. They obviously published the worst thing they found about him. And being in debt is bad how? That just proves he is not a corrupt, insider trading, oligarchy favouring candidate. And what proportion of that "half a million" is missed child support payments? It could just be $10 child support + 499,990 debt = A headline that makes him look like he owes 500,000 in child support!
Shitty click bait making him sound like a dead beat dad.
It's almost entirely unpaid taxes
While it's true the lion's share is unpaid taxes, he owes $50k in child support. I'd still call that a deadbeat dad.
How is that better???
A good chunk of the country thinks be a tax cheat is smart.
I don't agree. It's free loading. But as evidence from other comments here, it makes him a hero to those who are anti-tax.
who gives a fuck? this is meaningless mudslinging to anyone who supports him.
I was wondering when Democrats were going to get around to their smear campaigns against progressives. Looks like they're starting early this campaign season
You mean smearing the spoiler candidates the GOP put up to split the ticket juat about every election the past 20+ years? That's who you're worried about the left smearing?
You mean smearing the spoiler candidates the GOP put up to split the ticket juat about every election the past 20+ years?
There are smear campaigns against RFK Jr?
Is the libertarian candidate a spoiler put up by democrats every year?
The GOP? You don't know much about politics in this country.
Still better than the bloods and crips.
Here are some additional articles from past couple weeks plus:
July 12, 2023: https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/21/politics/cornel-west-green-party-president-biden-democrats-worry/index.html August 3, 2023: https://newrepublic.com/post/174819/cornel-west-owes-irs-500000-taxes August 7, 2023: https://www.thedailybeast.com/cornel-west-calls-500k-tax-lien-a-distraction August 10, 2023: https://www.thecollegefix.com/socialist-scholar-cornel-west-owes-500000-in-taxes/ August 15, 2023: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/fairness-justice/cornel-wests-tax-hypocrisy
Dr. Cornel West speaks about it on the interview below:
Interview with Third Party Candidate Dr. Cornel West | The Stephen A. Smith Show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtHIzALSrAY
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The 2 party system is horseshit, but this is your recurring reminder that the greens are not worth your vote.
Any party serious about affecting change does so at the local level first. The fact that the greens consistently try to get attention with symbolic candidacies at the national level while being fuck all out of touch with school boards and local politics paints them as diva opportunists at best and bad faith progressive spoilers at worst.
This is coming from someone who agrees with most of West's platform at face value
You know who was involved with the Green Party back in the early 2000s? Kyrsten Sinema.
I mean, you don't even need to go that far back. 2016 green presidential candidate Jill Stein literally rubbed elbows with Putin and Mike Flynn in 2015
Running for president as a 3rd party is like proposing marriage to random strangers instead of, y’know, dating people. We all know you’re doing it for attention because it’s not going to work.
except when it has worked...
I'm a green party supporter (not in the US) and couldn't agree more. I support the greens as much as I can to help spread environmental awareness, but if the election looks like it will be close, I vote for the party most likely to defeat the conservatives.
what if all the parties except greens are conservative?
Eh, the reform party nearly got it. It can be easier to get local elections after achieving national legitimacy.
They made no inroads after Hilary vs Trump. They aren't going to see any better opportunity for national legitimacy, and it wasn't enough to make a significant difference. If they want to succeed, they have to start local.
Tell that to the Tea Party, the last significant change in voting dynamics we've had as a nation, that won almost entirely at the local level and got fucking destroyed on the national stage.
The Tea Party is what eventually led to the populist surge that backed Trump.
Peace & Freedom party all the way. If you’re going to throw your vote away on a 3rd party, make it one that actually has principles. The Greens are just full of weirdos these days.
IMO still better to vote 3rd party than to waste your vote with the blues and reds.
We need to start showing them that we are not shee, just keep voting for them with no changes; Reagan/BushSr/Clinton/BushJr/Obama/Trump/Biden all they did was for the wealthy class not for the working class, do not get me wrong they do throw in crumbs here and there...
Trump admin: passes $1.5 trillion tax cut where 60% of savings go to the top 20% and slashes the corporate tax rate by 40%
Biden admin: passes $1 trillion infrastructure bill, $400 billion in climate funding, $1.9 trillion in COVID aid that temporarily boosted unemployment aid and child tax credit, and first major gun safety legislation in decades, seen here
Demand change. Demand more from the politicians that work for you. Take Biden and all elected officials to account for expiring temporary relief for the lower class. But on many important issues for the lower class there are big differences between red and blue.
We need ranked choice voting first. Funny how it's something both Democrats and Republicans can unite over why it's bad, confusing, whatever...