Is The 1975 'new' punk after the kiss in Malaysia?
Is The 1975 'new' punk after the kiss in Malaysia?
From https://promusicianhub.com/what-is-punk-music/
In its most basic definition, Punk music is a manifestation of the rebellious, anti-authority punk subculture that peaked in the second half of the 1970s, primarily in the US and the UK. Not just a music genre, but punk is more of an attitude, a philosophy, and a whole way of being.
Sure it doesn't sound like punk music, but they sure as hell ripped a massive middle finger at authority.
It's worth noting that the act has been criticized by Malasia's queer community as exacerbating tensions and reinforcing negative stereotypes. I don't have a strong opinion but it's generally best to listen to the concerns of the community you're trying to stick up for before doing a political stunt on their behalf (I'm queer btw)
It's almost like any kind of advocacy done in name of a marginalized group without actually including and consulting said group is performative, masturbatory and counterproductive.
This applies to most things well-meaning "progressive" libs choose to champion: race, indigenous peoples, immigrants, you name it.
And from what I hear, the lead singer is just a loose cannon personally, and probably put zero planning into it.
Really sounds like he wasn't standing up for them at all
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Yep that sounds about right after getting the full context. Disappointing.
What the fuck is that title?
As someone who has never heard of neither the band The 1975 nor their kissing stunts, it took me a couple of reads for sure.
The guitarist, Matty Healy, is a racist piece of shit and nothing he ever does is punk. He masturbates to black women being degraded and dehumanized. Fuck him and fuck anyone bringing him or his band up.
Do you have a source for that?
I hadn't even heard of these guys before the Malaysia news so cool your jets there buddy.
It's not.
Punk is a musical tradition. Rock and roll was always about rebellion. What made punk different was the back to basic, do it yourself attitude to the music. It's rebellion, not only against society, but also against increasingly polished music in the 70s with everyone trying to be Zeppelin.
It arguably started with the Dolls and the Stooges, and grew like wildfire in CBGB. It spread to England when forming members of the Clash and Sex Pistols attended a single Ramones show. It got commercialised through the Pistols and political through the Clash. It got hardened in California, from Black Flag to the Kennedys. The US saw an inspired hardcore scene for a few years.
After that I'd argue it died. Plenty of people would probably pour a beer over me for that.
If it doesn't draw from this musical tradition at all, calling it punk is just completely misleading. Ray Charles wasn't punk just because he refused to play for a segregated audience. He was a complete badass, but that's a different thing entirely. And even when drawing from punk as a tradition, whether or not post punk and pop punk should be considered punk is already a debate not worth having.
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Dude, nice link! < 1000 subs! These guys are all good. I'd see them if they ever came to NZ.
In return, here's a NZ punk band I just saw live (fucking excellent) and they have only 20 subs on youtube!
Here's the bandcamp for the full discography. I recommend Surf the Streets to get the feel.
I blame the internet, my generation was pissed off and we were going to change things.
Then as we got old enough to actually do something, the internet took off and everyone just started screaming into the void instead.
Punk isn't a genre, it's a lifestyle. Somewhere in the 90s people, including the artists themselves, mistook it only as a musical genre.
The 1975 is punk imo, even though they dont fit the genre.
The 1975 is headed up by a white supremacist. That's the furthest thing from punk.
They're pop or maybe alternative. Definitely not punk. And kissing a fellow band member doesn't make you a punk
The 1975 is headed up by a white supremacist. That's the furthest thing from punk.
Edited and joke removed. After reading that buzz feed article I realized that this is not the time for humor.
OP, you're admiring a hateful, racist, disgusting excuse of a human being.
Admiring and bringing up excuses for a nazi makes you a nazi. Period.
And how exactly am I admiring this band? I had never heard of these guys before the news story, and I agree this Healy dude sounds like a dickhead. I was simply asking a question about the band and punk movement.
Well you said he was just being a provocateur when I brought up how racist and fucked up he is. That's defending and making excuses.
Ok, ill give you the benefit of the doubt and explain it to you as best as I can: Being a personification of White Nationalism is not punk and is not ripping a massive middle finger at authority, it simply is being a Nazi. And as such, he deserves no admiration and no discussion. The only thing he deserves is a massive ripping of his middle frontal gyrus.
I am not familiar with the band, could you link the buzz feed article you are referring to?
It's this one. The guy sounds like a bit of a douche.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/stephaniesoteriou/taylor-swift-fans-distancing-matty-healy-brutalize-women