Pls help I downloaded a Chinese app, and Xi Jinping is inside my phone

Privacy sub... Iphone
What a lack of computer literacy and libre software thought does to a mf.
- but for the companies that can access your information
- As if Android is any better?
  
  Android is leagues ahead of Apple, first of all, the core of Android is libre, anyone is able to take Android and create their own mobile operating system around it (with various amounts of success). Of course, this leads to OEMs who create bastardized nonfree operating systems with privacy holes, but it also leads to things like Vanilla Android, GrapheneOS, CalyxOS, /e/ etc.
  There are also GNU/Linux phones like UBports, GNOME/KDE mobile shell, so it's not a binary decision.
  Android is not without its flaws (like Google play services and closed down hardware), but to say it's not better than Apple is misleading. Countries choose Android, only America pushes their Apple sludge.
  
  graphene
  
  It is leagues ahead if you are literate enough to wipe off the original firmware and get your own in it.

what does this person think China will do with this information you live in another country dipshit china can't arrest you
- Xi Jinping is personally jerking it to my noods!
- All the pics I take of my feet are actually a matter of national security, sweaty.
  
  🦶
- They can just buy the information from data brokers anyhow
  
  this person doesn't seem to appreciate that the chinese government is too busy managing the chinese state to give a shit about them
  
  from amazon or whoever, who they'll happily give their information to and who have way more ability to fuck with them
- This is the kind of drivel which gets posted to that sub regarding why they should care China is "stealing their data" :
  if they get enough data, then they can use machine learning to find patterns effectively reading the mind of an average american. The govt can then push specially crafted propaganda aimed at destroying your faith in country, and seed ideas like resisting the chinese is in vain and you should surrender.
  With enough time the population will get weaker and starts to fear any retaliation against the chinese because they are TOO STRONG (they are in your mind). Without public support Democratic govts can't do shit ultimately causing US to crumble down and even taken over by chinese.
  Data is dangerous.
  I'd like to think this is a joke because I would write something like this as a bit, but I've seen a similar argument 1000 times by now.
  One of the senators in the tiktok hearing basically insinuated that China was installing a communism activation word in the heads of Americans.
  To put it mildly, Americans are not an intellectual people.
  
  if they get enough data, then they can use machine learning to find patterns effectively reading the mind of an average american. The govt can then push specially crafted propaganda aimed at destroying your faith in country, and seed ideas like resisting the chinese is in vain and you should surrender.
  That's not how "machine learning" works. Do they think they live in a marvel movie?
  
  if they get enough data, then they can use machine learning to find patterns effectively reading the mind of an average american.
  It's not hard you just take literally any issue no matter how pointless or obvious the solution and half the country will think it's good and the other half will think it's bad. America can only process new problems through the lens of adversarial politics where nothing can get done. Ultimately because the US constitution is the worst legal framework in history so they can't campaign on actual policy
  the complicated statistical analysis necessary to predict American patterns is a coin flip. Of course the UK is simpler just ask what would an incredibly corrupt person do and there you have it the UK government
  and the Chinese wouldn't want to intrude in the excellent job the US government is doing at destroying American faith in their country
  
  You don't need special algorithms to read the mind of the average American. The American brainpan consists of "car good, racism, queerphobia, kill the homeless, CONSUME" and that really covers 99% of what goes on in the average American's head.
  
  effectively reading the mind of an average american
  "hot diggedy damn! i sure as shootin' have a hankerin' for a tasty burger!" fires revolvers into the sky
  
  then they can use machine learning to find patterns effectively reading the mind of an average american.
- I don't think the cretin making the post on
  can adequately explain why they are so terrified without resorting to blatant racism and westoid fantasies. But the existential crisis for the west is that capitialism has run out of road with data, attention and platforms the last all important commodities to shape and dominate what is left of the economy. Your attention is a zero sum game for them and the data is the all important fuel.
  The majority of people have huge data footprints with fragments of themselves everywhere. Yet is there any real example of blackmail with all this data? I remember reading a quater of Soshana Zuboff's Surveillience Capitialism before I could take no more of needlessly prolonged lib storytelling. Are there any worse examples of this specifically ruining somebodies life other then a ruined engagement? Like if somebody who made it to the end of that drivel enlight us that would be great or correct me where I am worng about data.
  
  Surveillience Capitialism
  Substance is buried beneath the libbery. The relevant bit: capitalist conditions have changed. Surveillance capitalism brings new rules distinct from those of industrial or finance capital. I mean we did have massive towers of data driven wealth arise and multiply in very short order. This also means new repression will operate differently from the fascism of the past
  As a
  Zuboff has fluffy, vibes based ideas on what to do about it, and a very cute belief that the West has meaningful democracy, eg the concept that top level decision making behind closed doors is new
  Disclaimer: I am a babby on theory, open to correction from real vanguard ppl
- i absolutley have seen some of these idiots claim that china has underground police in the us. nothing seems to be to absurd for these people

Edward Snowden fucked up his life for nothing. Everything he revealed, and people are more scared of a government they don't live under using their data -- which they could already just buy from various US-based companies which take plenty of that data for their own purposes.

It’s like Snowden & Assange taught these people nothing.
All the new media literacy pedagogy should be thrown out and replaced with Michael Parenti’s Inventing Reality and Make-Believe Media.

cares about privacy
downloads a shopping/fast fashion app
on an i phone
posts to his reddit account
something isn't adding up
- My calculations suggest that it could be racism.

Is there an iPhone equivalent of deleting System32 because that's clearly the answer to this question.
If anyone is that worried about data privacy, they shouldn't have a smartphone lol.
- I think that attitude is frankly toxic. It's the digital equivalent of "if you don't like America, you can move to Afghanistan!".
  
  the platform and devices are kinda counter to principles of privacy. the towers track you, "free" software where your data is the product, the panopticon of everyone having a camera... Places that need to actually be secure ban them. You can get by without a smart phone just fine if you have a regular computer but then you transfer all the vulnerability to that device, it's just not physically with you and you have a little bit better control over it if you know or care enough to make the efforts.
  
  how can acknowledging reality be toxic? it would be nice if it were different, but they're right - smartphones are anathema to privacy as they exist today
  
  The real toxic attitude is simply expecting everyone to have a smartphone. Stop trying to make me install an app or scan a QR code for everything. I've gone without using a smartphone for months at a time and I was fine. Pre-covid there were usually a couple times where some event or restaurant or work thing required some unnecessary app, but since covid I think people have gotten sick of this type of stuff and it's not as common. Worse case scenario just get a burner phone for when you're forced to use a smartphone.
- Is there an iPhone equivalent of deleting System32
  It’s Apple, so no.
  
  Don't you believe in Miracles?
  
  You could always flash an invalid baseband — heard that irrecoverably bricks the device

r/privacy is full of the dumbest people I've ever met. If you cared about privacy you would never have a smartphone in the first place.

Oh noes what am I ever going to do the secret Chinese social score app turned my phone into a seeseepee approved iPhone.
- That product violates every Maoist principle, but damn does it look sexy.
  
  It's red and has Mao's face on it. He'd love it.
- the absence of a Stalin phone case is revisionism
  
  You have to travel to a parallel dimension 2012 to get the CPUSSR 100 year anniversary Stalin drip
- If I got a Mao phone case, would it make my landlord too scared to call me?
  
  Once you install the Mao case, any landlord who calls you will be delivered a fatal electric shock upon you answering
- w2c swag deng xiaoping phone case
- Chud: Communism no iphones
  Me:
- Yooo that deng case is fire.
- Wao those are pretty sweet
  
  The ones with the faces are pretty extra but I like the more minimalist ones

This guy just got tricked into downloading a communism and you're laughing?

Scared about privacy. Has a public reddit profile with a year long posting history.
- Uses iphone too 😂

shit is so stupid. i don't care if the chinese government spies on me. I live in america. It's DHS, ICE, CIA, FBI that want to kidnap me and harvest my organs. chinese govt can't do shit to me and have no reason to. honestly i dare them.

Oh god oh fuck Xi is in my phone. He made my wallpaper an animated Chinese flag flapping in the breeze and the language preferences looked like they're being 变成中国人请帮忙我很害怕

I have a google phone right now but I'd love to get a Chinese phone when I need a new one. I'm pretty sure the party isn't getting transcripts of what I yell at my phone right now, so I'm hoping a Xiaomi or Huawei would be more conducive to sharing my political advice with the chairman
- FWIW Xiaomi and Huawei phones still run android and come with google services installed by default. You have to install a custom OS to avoid that IIRC.
  
  If you want to avoid Google then Huawei is the way to go. Xiaomis generally are Google app compatible out of the box, you just have to go one extra step and install them.
  Huaweis, on the other hand, you have to go through all sorts of steps just to get Google play store installed and working, which I think says a lot about how devoid of google shit they are.
  
  Some Huawei's have harmony OS (based on android though), but I thought Huawei lost access to Google play services years ago?
  
  Not completely true. I imported a Xiaomi phone and it did not have Google Play enabled. I changed the region and the option was available for "basic google services". I did it to have access to banking apps (rather than using online banking, since 2FA is available on the app).

xi jinping is inside my phone

You'd think people interested in phone/computer privacy would take it upon themselves to educate themselves about computer security and how to protect their device.
Turns out they're way more interested in jumping at shadows and demanding praise for acting like a child scared of the monsters under the bed.

Critical support to Temu for separating chuds from their money

Obviously most apps are stealing your data but people's reactions to Temu are literally insane. They have a thing where they'll literally paypal you £20-£40 to refer other users, I was 1 referral away and 2 friends wouldn't download it because it's Chinese. Another two friends said that people they know had money stolen by it... like, legality and possibility aside yes, I'm sure Pinduoduo, one of the BIGGEST COMPANIES IN THE WORLD needs to steal your last tenner
- why would one of the BIGGEST COMPANIES IN THE WORLD need
  You can say the exact same thing about PayPal which is known to 'misplace' people's money and make it extremely difficult to get back. I don't see how any other fintech company would be different.

Too late sweaty, CCP knows everything you've ever said or done now, along with everyone you've ever talked to. You can't put the cat back in the bottle Charlie. Your whole life is in the communists hands. You might want to turn yourself into your local FBI office and accept your torture and eventual murder for the crimes you've bestowed on this free nation.

If you're that paranoid about privacy, perhaps an iPhone and social media are not the right choices for you.
- For real - at that point it's time to start Self-Hosting everything you can and install CalyxOS on your phone or something.

lmaooooo the "data breach" tag

I go out of my way to never download any apps that secretly steal data (or ones from China)
So apps from China that don't steal data are also bad?
I've seen someone echo this exact same sentiment, they were suspicious of an open source project on GitHub not having malware because the maintainers were Chinese and there was a Chinese translation of the README file, American propaganda is mind-rotting.

I would actually prefer if a tame country who hasn't been aggressive since its creation besides one or two times, which is thousands of miles away from me, to spy on me
instead of the fucking united states

iPhone? Reddit? Where the hell is your GrapheneOS Pixel?

Doesn't the ecovid implant itself in the Google account system? Every time you get a new phone the malvirus burns it's image to your phone?

We belive in opsec here because there is a real chance a chud will throw eggs at our house. What data do you have China could want. What could they do with it?
- they could recruit you for their super secret spy program to post memes on lemmy