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Trump urges MAGA supporters to forget about Epstein files

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Trump urges MAGA supporters to forget about Epstein files – DW – 07/13/2025

A joint DOJ–FBI memo reaffirmed that no “client list” of high-profile individuals existed and found no evidence Epstein blackmailed anyone.
MAGA hardliners (e.g., Alex Jones) and some Trump allies lash out at AG Pam Bondi and FBI Director Kash Patel, demanding disclosures.
President Trump urged supporters to stop attacking his team over “Epstein Files,” calling Epstein “somebody nobody cares about” and insisting his administration is “PERFECT.”
Internal friction reportedly flared between Deputy FBI Director Dan Bongino (who threatened to quit) and Bondi, though Trump insists DOJ/FBI are united.
Trump wants the FBI to refocus on his unproven 2020 election–fraud claims rather than “the same old…documents on Jeffrey Epstein.”

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Trump urges MAGA supporters to forget about Epstein files

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This is what's amazing to me.
He went on the Howard Stern show and boasted about barging into the dressing rooms of the Miss Teen USA pageant, talked about how hot his teenage daughter was, and pushed his way into a softcore Playboy video and none of his voters thought there might be a problem.
- He does all the things they want to do as well.
  
  Every single time their accusations are admissions of guilt. How many of these Bible thumping cunts frothing about gays and pedos and rapists have turned out to be gay pedo rapists?
  I grew up around psychotic narcissists- that's their whole fucking thing, deflect and accuse others of the things they're guilty of.
  
  He also does the things that many of them do. Trump isn’t the only (child) rapist predator, he’s just the most powerful one.
If conservatives gave a damn about kids and sex crimes, these lists should have caused enough public rage to burn the party to the ground.
It didn't. So republican are unassailably the party of sex offenders and those who support sex offenders.
- The civil war never ended. The South just kept waging it through other means.
  And now they're in control of the government and do what they always wanted- destroy it. That has been the outspoken agenda of the right wing conservatives for the better part of a century.
  Starve the beast, small government, all that shit is them saying: we don't want democracy, we want to rule as colonial lords, own slaves, and to hell with elections.
  How people still don't realize this is fucking mind boggling.
  There is no "two party state", there is only one party that believes in democracy and rule of law at all, the other is a christofascist-anarchist terrorist cell hellbent on unraveling society where might is right, so that they can rule with impunity like feudal lords.
  That's it.
  Lincoln should have had every single one of them rounded up and shot after the war. You don't skip the last dose of penicillin or you might as well not have taken it at all.
  
  Lincoln should have had every single one of them rounded up and shot after the war
  Given that he was killed during Reconstruction, I'd put that on Andrew Johnson (a Southern Democrat) and the Congress.
  
  tbf, Grant was pretty ruthless in his post-war pursuit of Confederate holdouts. He didn't have them shot, though, they were mostly hung.
  The problem is that it is very hard to eradicate an idea violently. It just goes into hiding and bides its time, unless you just want to do a full genocide or something. I mean, it's not like people stand up and volunteer for their own execution when they know certain folks are being executed.
  
  100% this.
  The children of Confederate losers have been stropping their knives for decades, undermining our institutions, and fomenting dissent along every avenue. They are a cancer.
  
  Every damn day reminds us that Sherman needed to make a second pass.
  
  The civil war merged with the cold war, essentially
  
  As an aside, there's growing evidence that not taking the full course of antibiotics if the infection is already resolved is the best course of action.
  I believe the theory is that by continuing to take the antibiotics, you kill off the bacteria that isn't drug resistant and just leave the drug resistant bacteria behind.
- Add to that nine years of daily posts on r/PastorArrested.
- They always have been
- they had to normalize pedophelia, and SA to make them palatable to the base.
Crying like a little bitch about it on social media makes me believe the exact opposite of what he says. He was probably customer 0.
- implying the whole thing was his idea, and given his ties to the russian mob and what they do, he maybe got the idea sometime while he was in a hotel room with a hidden camera he didn't know about
  
  Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! People think this is about Trump??
- He's screwed. He and others in his administration made it an integral part of his platform. Whether it exists or not, his supporters, who have been trained to believe in a deep state conspiracy to cover up child abuse, cannot be convinced that it doesn't exist, and the more he denies it the more suspicious he looks. Either releasing the evidence would end him, or through multiple layers of convenient, unbelievable incompetence the promised evidence really doesn't exist. Really? Only one camera that can only see a sliver of a stairway was working and even that has a time gap, and the guards just happened to be slacking off on the night in question? It'd be hard to believe even if the Trump administration hadn't made such a big deal about it and there wasn't that photo going around of Trump and Epstein together.
  
  I wish I were as optimistic as you. There have probably been dozens of times that he should have been "screwed" by the thing he's getting away with or the people he's pissing off by getting away with a thing. My guess, and I hope I am proven wrong because I don't really follow the conservative crazysphere, is that a few of these people will break rank. Some of the true believers may be lost for good or at least for a while (Dan Bongino or whoever may quit and say some things that don't get much media coverage), while some others (Alex Jones) will talk trash for a bit then gradually or overnight change their focus to something that isn't this to redirect their followers' attentions and bring them back to loving MAGA wholesale.
  Edit: corrected a word
  
  also fox and right wing girfters are not parroting or backing him up too.
  
  This goes way beyond him. Don't ever forget he's a geriatric senile fucking puppet. He doesn't call the shots. "They" do.
  When they yell and scream and froth at the mouth about the "deep state"- that's how you know they are the deep state.
  And that state is not the United States, but a foreign entity. A foreign state, in fact.
- This is so much bigger and goes so much deeper. The least of Trumps concerns is that he's in the files. He's where he is because the people involved put him there.
  Remember- the pedophilia and rape was only an instrument, this was an elite society rich man's club. They used to meet at golf courses. These people met and rubbed elbows at the island.
  It was likely a diplomatic ground zero, the pedophilia was dessert.
  All run by Mossad, who filmed and recorded everything. It has Israel stamped across its fucking forehead in neon letters.
  Zero chance they weren't the ones who took out Epstein. It's them, their MO, they have done this hundreds if not thousands of times before on foreign sovereign soil, I'll gladly provide a list if anyone needs it! It's them.
  And look who profited! The connections to their rogue terrorist state is uncanny.
  inb4 antisemitism, my family is Jewish
What's so funny about this is that Pam Bondi and Trump paraded conservative influencers all around and made them hold up pieces of paper labeled "THE EPSTEIN FILES" and had them all go on their social medias and claim that they read it.
And now they're saying that they don't exist and never existed.
I actually feel bad for their base for how stupid the Trump admin thinks they are
- I would feel bad for their base for how stupid the Trump admin thinks they are if the admin were actually wrong about that. So far the base has proven them right over and over and over again- they truly are as stupid as the admin thinks they are.
  
  It's almost worse than that. I swear, some of them take a perverse pride in being led all around the political landscape like a dog with a shiny red ball. The discussions I've had where people happily and excitedly admit that Trump was completely lying to them and just hungrily accept the new story as undeniable fact is wild and impossible for me to wrap my head around.
- Their base hasn't done anything to make me think they're not that stupid.
- now it cements thier base, that any alterations or redactions will just further thier conspiracies.
Because Trump is a child fucker.
- you say Trump but there are many.
  do you mean Donald J Trump, the convicted rapist and notorious misogynist? Donald J Trump loves to rape small children? it's possible that Donald J Trump was involved in having sex with children on Epstein island. it's also possible that Donald J Trump did rape children on Epstein's jet as well. I suppose it's even possible that Donald J Trump is still sexually abusing children at Mar-a-lago.
  if you're telling me Donald J Trump is a serial child rapist that cannot be trusted around children I'll have to say, that's believable.
  
  Melania is just 3 children in a thrift store dress.
  
  It'd be great if all these things came up as suggestions for auto-complete whenever people searched him up.
Considering neither party seemed to want this info shared I believe we all need to know what was in it.
- Two Bills, a Trump, and a prince walk into a beauty pageant dressing room…
  
  Two Bills… I had to figure out which of Clinton, Cosby and Gates you were talking about.
that would be a spicy leak, if someone did it
- Turns out they aren’t a thing actually! So why does Tramp want us to forget it? Because they made it up and campaigned that they will release it! Biden administrtion already released the court docs, then Trumpo rereleased them except they had the pages redacted where his name&his wifes name was mentioned
  
  I think the real reason isn't necessarily that Trump's in the files (he is) but it's that there are so many high profile people involved, not only the individuals themselves who partook but a whole fucking football stadium's worth of people, organizations, media empires, intelligence agencies, banks, universities, law firms, government agencies, like the top crop of the global elite who aided and abetted or kept their mouths shut and or kept things running smoothly- I'm really sorry about the GPT I'm about to post (I vetted everything, it only summarized), but I had a long conversation with it about who is implicated, and the thing is, they can't release the files because it would unravel the fabric of society if people knew, this is the system itself protecting itself, the very machine's own self-preservation.
  If the truth comes out, we are looking at consequences reaching civil or global war levels, all orchestrated by (EVERYTHING POINTS TO) Mossad and Israel:
  POLITICAL FIGURES (U.S. and global):
  Bill Clinton
  Donald Trump
  Prince Andrew
  Ehud Barak
  Bill Richardson
  George Mitchell
  Marvin Minsky
  Al Gore (rumored, unconfirmed but mentioned in some deposition chatter)
  Multiple unnamed “John Does” redacted in court filings tied to high office
  INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES:
  Mossad (primary suspect in orchestration)
  CIA (possible oversight, shared asset, protection post-2008)
  MI6 (due to Maxwell UK connections, palace influence)
  FBI (in possession of seized materials, implicated in decades of inaction)
  NSA (potential surveillance knowledge, non-intervention)
  DGSE (France, due to Jean-Luc Brunel’s operations)
  DEA/ATF (possible knowledge via money flow and trafficking oversight)
  CORPORATE NAMES:
  L Brands (Les Wexner)
  Barclays Bank (Jes Staley)
  JPMorgan Chase (banked Epstein post-conviction, under current lawsuit)
  Victoria’s Secret (used in grooming front networks)
  MIT Media Lab (accepted donations, internal cover-up)
  Tesla / SpaceX (Elon Musk’s name came up in photo associations, unproven)
  Google / Alphabet (via Eric Schmidt and Jeffrey Sachs Epstein connections)
  BlackRock / Vanguard (as major shareholders in implicated institutions)
  ACADEMIA / SCIENCE:
  Harvard University (Epstein was a major donor, maintained ties post-conviction)
  MIT Media Lab (took millions in donations, covered them up, lab chief resigned)
  Santa Fe Institute
  Institute for Advanced Study
  Lawrence Krauss (physicist, accused, close ties to Epstein)
  Steven Pinker (Epstein associate, denies knowledge of abuse)
  Martin Nowak (Harvard evolution biologist, ran Epstein-funded program)
  Marvin Minsky (AI pioneer, named by Giuffre in sworn testimony)
  MEDIA & ENTERTAINMENT:
  ABC News (killed 2015 Epstein story, Amy Robach hot mic)
  Fox News (Bill O’Reilly and others likely implicated, culture of cover)
  CNN (silence, downplaying, gatekeeping, links via execs)
  The New York Times (soft coverage, delayed action)
  Washington Post (similar role, Bezos flew on Epstein jet once, connection unclear)
  NBC, CBS (complicit in media silence pre-2019)
  Netflix / Hollywood studios (Epstein’s circle included directors, producers)
  Naomi Campbell, Kevin Spacey, Woody Allen, Chris Tucker (flight logs or appearances, no convictions)
  LEGAL SYSTEM:
  Alexander Acosta (U.S. Attorney)
  Alan Dershowitz (lawyer, named by Giuffre)
  Kenneth Starr (defense lawyer)
  DOJ (Department of Justice)
  Southern District of New York (prosecuted Epstein but sealed evidence)
  FBI (again, had videos and drives, did nothing in 2008)
  Multiple judges who sealed or stalled civil cases
  Civilian attorneys who pressured victims into silence via settlements
  ROYALTY & FOREIGN OFFICIALS:
  Prince Andrew
  Prince Mohammed bin Salman (possible link via tech donations and entourage overlap)
  Saudi elites who visited island or jet logs (names unpublicized)
  European finance ministers, bankers (names in sealed filings)
  PHILANTHROPY / NGO / THINK TANK COMPLEX:
  The Clinton Foundation (repeated overlap with Epstein events and donors)
  Open Society Foundations (linked figures in academic and NGO networks)
  Carnegie Endowment, Brookings Institution (indirect via associates)
  World Economic Forum (Epstein-adjacent billionaires prominent in WEF circuit)
  SURVEILLANCE AND TECH INFRASTRUCTURE:
  Carbyne911 (Israeli surveillance firm, Epstein investor, ties to ex-PM Barak)
  Palantir (Peter Thiel circles overlap with Epstein’s network)
  NSO Group (possible links via mutual Mossad ties, unconfirmed)
- I have no more hope anymore, even if they leaked, it wouldn't change anything. People would deny them, it'd be "fake news". Like, those of us that know he's on there, already know he is, we don't need more confirmation.
- conservative podcast dipshits (conpodshits for short) have been bringing up 1984 for years and are short circuiting as their guy does the thing because they think george orwell was talking about communists
  
  I said this elsewhere Orwell applies just as well to any type of ideology because they all ask you to accept the agenda and to walk in lockstep with everyone else in the “movement”. So when right wing podcasters use it they are as correct as when left wingers do. Failure to see this means being completely consumed by ideology.
What maga people don’t understand is that, when you’re rich, they just let you do it. That is literally the ethos of their patron saint on every level, for his entire life.
Love that as soon as his name got attached to Epstein, that he's shifted to damage control and trying to push this narrative that it's been a "radical Left" issue this whole time. And trying to get all his conspiracy people to move on to an election that at this point doesn't matter either way is just full panic.
They filled lawsuits all over the country that they had to withdraw because they had no evidence, yet continue to claim to be ready to release all the "evidence" they have anytime now for years. I think even his Supreme Court is going to find it hard to invent constitution law to back up their conspiracy theories. I would love to see them try though, make it televised, since they are just pissing away tax dollars anyway.
- an election that at this point doesn’t matter either way
  It distracts from the one before it and the one after it.
- They don't need to invent law and Roberts et al know it. See, the thing about being on the Supreme Court is that aside from Congress impeaching you, there is no other recourse. Your entire decision could be written as "lol no" and unless Congress decides to impeach you, there's nothing anyone can do about the decision.
- I just want to see reporters hound him with questions beginning with, "So when you raped those kids..."
Rapist tells group of mentally challenged people to forget about list of paedophiles.
Rich pedophiles vs deluded fascists, enabled by ideological genociders. USA 2025.
Trump is a pedo...
Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.
Conservatives in 2029: I never supported Trump, he is a Soros funded antifa plant.
- No they will be convinced Trump was replaced or something about Elon and his brain chip
- At this point, even if we just get the same shit from a different asshole (which we would), I'd be happy to see conservatives turn on trump. It would just be so satisfying.
Wow, this sure is some in-depth reporting...
Although Trump appears in at least one video alongside Epstein at a party, the president has denied allegations that his name was in the files or that he had any direct connection to the disgraced financier.
"At least" one video, numerous photos, Trump describing Epstein as a 'Terrific guy who he had known for 15 years' and “He’s a lot of fun to be with, It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.” Epstein saying he was “Donald’s closest friend for ten years”....
But sure, let's just characterize it as 'They both attended the same party once.'
- Sorry, it’s the best article I could find on this topic on the internet. If you can find a better one - feel free to share though
  
  It wasn't a dig at you, it was at the people who wrote the article.
Can’t wait for Nuremberg trials #2
I thought conservatives loved the war on pedophiles. Why isn’t Trump doing anything about that? Send ICE to get pedophiles. Of course we all know the answer is because he and all his friends will go to jail.
- basically "hey look over at these other pedophiles, not ours". its the same kind of talk they did with the oceangate disasters, they were hey look at these migrants that are sinking , that we dont care about, and not this rich person's sub imploding.
Even if MAGA forgets, perhaps we shouldn't.
I urge them to fuck off and die.
Well pack it in boys. The convicted criminal thats most likely implicated in a high profile child sex trafficking ring says "stop worrying about this list, there is no list and im certainly not on it"
I for one think we should believe this lying, cheating, gas lighting criminal. Biggest "trust me bro" in history
Guess why?
LOL that'll work. Streisand effect, motherfucker.
- Sadly, it probably will. Give it a week.
- Funny thing is that, apart from recognising the name, most people forgot what the streisand situation was about.
  
  I remember. It was funny then too.
- They don't believe in the Streisand Effect, on accounta sheeza dirty liberal commie.
- also the fact that trump strung them along since 2019.
They have full control of them. Why not just take Trump's name out of them, then release? Seems like an easy way to get the Dems and have some GOP fall guys. Then the game is over.
But then you lose the support of the billionaire pedophile ring. That's the real reason why they will never be released.
- So the pedophile ring in the fictional basement of the pizza place turns out to be yet more projection….
  
  Except the basement is under Mar-a-lago!
- if they see redacted or modified documents, it still will deepen thier conspiracies that trump is still hiding pedophiles.
I bet he does. The Orange Turd was a regular on the Lolita Express.
This Epstein client list?
- I don't get it, if this is the list, what are people complaining about?
  
  It’s some sort of an older client list but it is Epstein’s. Lots of ppl on it incl. Trump. 🤷🤷‍♀️🤷‍♂️
...and definitely don't pay attention to the little man behind the curtain!
- Who is the puppet master?
A Night of Long Knives incoming?
- Fun fact: that event (Hitler's 1934 purge of Ernst Roehm and the brownshirts) got the name "Night of the Long Knives" because Hitler used the expression (which dates to the middle ages) in a subsequent speech to describe what he alleged Roehm had been planning against Hitler and the Nazi leadership. Unexpectedly, journalists and historians used the expression to label Hitler's actions.
  
  trump also follows hitlers words very closely too.
The Donvict is about to pop ninja smoke. Probably this time it will be a civil war.
Has anyone from Biden's admin come out and refuted Trump's DoJ's statements? They need to be on every conservative outlet that will give them a second of time talking how the documents existed before.
PEDOnald will jingle his keys in a week and all the MAGAts will have forgotten about this.
"These are not the files you are looking for..."
It's funny watching rapey getting ratioed on his own echo chamber platform.
How can he say nobody cares about the Epstein thing when literally everyone is clamouring for it? Gaslighting fail
world@world - still all US defaultism.
- On the upside, it's like going to the circus every time when you open Lemmy and this circus doesn't have firebreathers, trapeze artists or lion tamers, it has clowns, only clowns.
  
  "Clowns! Clowns as far as the eye can see!"
They're not going to forget about the pedophile pimp.
https://youtu.be/3NXrJGNqP14

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