It's baffling to me that hexbear claims to be the most trans-positive space online while also having mandatory support of Hamas, the Houthis, Russia, Iran, etc. as a core part of the site culture

hamas famously known to be a long time supporter of LGBTQ+

Israel just murder a hundred innocent trans people. They bombed a prison in Tehran, including a wing that housed the regime's trans prisoners. They dropped a massive precision bomb right on top of the trans wing and murdered a hundred innocent trans prisoners. I can't recall Hamas ever doing something like that to trans folks.
- Fuck state of Israel, fuck Hamas. To think that a fundamentally islamic group would be ok with LGBTQ+ people rights is simply delusional though.
- they did it twice

That's because tankies don't operate on politics, like, they don't go out to make political movement or action. To them, it's theatre, and the more dramatic you can be, the more powerful you look.

It's all about being as oppressed as you can be. It's to make up for their feelings of guilt and shame being rich and lazy

Hexbear are a bunch of transwashing chuds.

i find it oddly strange people from instances like .zip downvote this post @Sami@lemmy.zip , generally i think the zip stance is acceptable of people of all minorities (AFAIK? but Sami is an admin from .zip so.. weird stance to take) which dbzer0 instance would be too then theres some oddities users one downvoted too @anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com some people here really in disguise "secretly" downvoting posts a fascist/bigot bootlicker would

You're engaging in bad faith just like the post itself is doing.
- im open to your critic but just calling it bad faith and not elaborating more on why you think so is also bad faith

They're attention whores, and you willingly feed them.

Lol some top comments from their struggle thread following this one:

Stupid fucking ass moron liberals can't fathom having multiple different priorities, and in this case holding internationalism and socialism through anti-imperialism as a priority above sexuality or gender-identity.

I actually think they CAN comprehend it because they all hold nationalism above these things anyway. Gender-identity and sexuality to them are deprioritised when it comes to America's strategic alliance with Saudi Arabia for example, why? Because they are nationalists that place their nationalism and supremacy above that of these issues.

The good old "well, they're muslim so they have to be as bad as the Taliban/ISIS and completely indistinguishable. I won't look into this at all." thing. Israel's policies are in line with many of these nations on LGBTQ, with exceptions only to pink-wash their genocidal ethno-state.

and they wonder why the communists were betrayed by Islamic fundamentalists in the Middle East.
LMAO I got 4 comments deep in their thread before I bailed from the radioactive dumbassery. First one accused me of masturbating while writing this post (WTF?!), second accused me of supporting bombing those countries (I don't), third was defending non-voters (Because Trump loves LGBT, Iran, and Palestine, right guys?) and the fourth said Iran has better trans healthcare than the US ( Hmmm... Wonder what that could be about...)

I usually just lurk blahaj occaisionally but your post annoyed me enough to post for the first time in 2 years

From their thread:

https://hexbear.net/post/5521160

Most places in the world are fairly equally shit for trans people. If a place is doing well, it is often hard for trans people still. If a place is in war and in famine, downgrade those conditions a step as you would if it were somewhere nice and calm.

And Iran isn't even the worst conditions. Of the countries with the most trans surgeries, the USA is number one, Thailand is two, and Iran is three. Iran's major cities are very modern and even look nicer to live in than many American ones.

Cost of living is very important to trans people, as we are often making less due to discrimination. Every trans person I've talked to in China has mentioned the discrimination and some unusual cultural quirks, but they've also mentioned they've not met a single homeless trans person. For the record, it's very easy to find homeless trans people in America, you can find some on hexbear even in our mutual aid comm. And despite the discrimination, these Chinese trans people have cheap housing in the downtown of major cities

And Iran isn’t even the worst conditions. Of the countries with the most trans surgeries, the USA is number one, Thailand is two, and Iran is three.
Do they... do they realize this is because the death penalty for gay folks means that many opt for transitioning into a gender they don't identify with over death?
but they’ve also mentioned they’ve not met a single homeless trans person.
Oh good, shipping homeless people out of sight and out of mind has worked then, glory to the People's Republic of China!

Really? Right in front of my blahaj.zone?

I'm pretty sure if someone posts something transphobic, ada personally hunts them down and shoots them with a rifle.

is that what she did when drag was telling trans folk to kill themselves?
Or denies the existence of dragons.

How hard is it to say you sympathize with the innocent civilians and agree all their warmongering leaders should be killed?

"b-b-but those dead children were homophobic, you biggot" - Hexbear mod, probably

For the most part because you can support their right not to be bombed into oblivion to further America’s imperial ambitions and also disagree with how they treat their lgbtq people. Often these countries were left leaning in the past until America installed a right-wing government.

but the islamic revolution was in opposition to the US. Why do that to themselves?
- They didn’t do the islamic revolution but they did do a coup 26 years earlier (for oil, of course) which installed the government that the islamic revolution was revolting against.
  Edit: For more context these are some of the policies of the man the US overthrew (from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Mosaddegh#Prime_Minister_of_Iran)
  The new administration introduced a wide range of social reforms: unemployment compensation was introduced, factory owners were ordered to pay benefits to sick and injured workers, and peasants were freed from forced labour in their landlords' estates. In 1952, Mosaddegh passed the Land Reform Act, which forced landlords to place 20% of their revenue into a development fund. This development fund paid for various projects such as public baths, rural housing, and pest control.[34]
  In March 1951, Mosaddegh nationalised the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company, cancelling its oil concession, which was otherwise set to expire in 1993, and expropriating its assets. Mosaddegh saw the AIOC as an arm of the British government controlling much of the oil in Iran, pushing him to seize what the British had built in Iran.[35] The next month, a committee of five majlis deputies was sent to Khuzistan to enforce the nationalisation.[36][37] Mosaddegh justified his nationalisation policy by claiming Iran was "the rightful owner..." of all the oil in Iran.
But you can support these people without supporting their corrupt and violent government?
I stand for solidarity with all peoples, not their rulers.
Often these countries were left leaning in the past until America installed a right-wing government
Ahh, we're lying again.
- it’s not a lie necessarily but i’d agree that it’s disingenuous to point towards these moments in history and to then use that as a tenuous basis for implying that the right-wing extremism in the middle east just popped up one day out of a vacuum only because evil american goblins invaded the land. i am well aware of what the OP comment is referring to, generally, but the description of these societies as “left-leaning” doesn’t really land for me. like i said, it’s not necessarily wrong but it’s somewhat disingenuous and binary to say that.
  surprise, every society-at-scale, ever, has been metrically shit and had a significant contingent of traditionalist and bigots that form the bedrock of the historical “go-fuck-yourself-with-a-stick-of-razorblades” party.
- The U.S has backed fascists and dictators in other countries before.
  Edit: downvote me all you wish, it doesn't change the fact that the U.S backed fascists. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augusto_Pinochet
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change

My understanding is that the majority of them want to see America fall (for good reason IMO, we're just billionaire slaves) so they vocally support the opposition to America. They understand the terrible aspects of some of those countries, but given we live in a western propaganda machine that covers those issues readily they focus on pointing out Americas hypocrisy and highlighting all the issues that our propaganda agencys (news) ignore and sweep under the rug.

You'd be better of asking In an instance that isn't defederated from them (like mine), I assume yours is defederated since nobody from hexbear is here yet.

Some of them actively Stan for the authoritarian regimes and deny their atrocities, even when there is concrete proof. Even when it’s obvious who is in the wrong.
Others are just pointing out why other countries respond negatively to the United States’ actions.
They are not the same.
Yeah but then they go and stay stupid shit like "censorship is a good thing". So it's kind of hard to understand the Tankie mind when they literally support oppression. Westerners may be brainwashed by propaganda but at least not all of them are authoritarian bootlickers.
This is MeanwhileOnGrad you're writing in.

TBF, they do criticise Russia for its LGBT policies: https://feddit.uk/post/9516220

I don't think they support (modern) russia, they do oppose ukraine though.
- Bizarre how almost everything they post is regurgitation of Putin propaganda. Believe what they do, not what they say.
- They most certainly support them
  Wrt China, there were some threads about how why you shouldn´t move there if you´re lgbt+, but it´s all just a really smart play by the CCP "because such rights should come gradually and it would be too divisive at a time where their people need to stay united and strong"

mandatory support of Hamas

Are you conflating the support of a nation with the support of a state that exercises control over that nation?

We aren't, but hexbear seems to.
- Hm. Alright.

Find one person who has a fully consistent ethical and moral framework. One.

Ah, the whataboutism. Inevitable result of the confused tankie when confronted with reality.
You can’t just reply that to dismiss value criticism.
- The criticism is that the instance isn't consistent in it's beliefs. My point is that no one is.
"Whatabout"
Consistency is so easy: "I'm right, everyone else is wrong, in all questions, for all eterntiy." Done.
- If anything my point would be closer to "I'm wrong, everyone else is wrong, in all questions, for all eternity."
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It's not like Israel would be any better.

I don't support Israel either
Whatabout aside, in the specific areas of trans rights they are better than most of the places listed by OP, from what I can tell.
- "officially" israel is better for LGBT+ people, but the reality is that israeli media is still full of periodic stories of queer folk being the victim of mob violence for being queer. they're still stoning gay people there, even if it's not technically the state that does it.
  they just don't try very hard to figure out who the culprits are.
I mean, on the LGBT+ front, Israel is not going to imprison or murder you just for being queer like other countries would. But they might if you're the wrong shade of brown and call their invisible sky daddy the wrong name, or even just have the wrong political opinions online. Or even if they think you're close enough to any of these things that you're probably enough of a bad person anyways.
But IIRC, Tel Aviv nevertheless has a notably robust queer community, so it's probably still safer to simply exist there as a gay person compared to the 60+ countries where homosexuality is criminalized, or the subset of those where it can actually get you killed.
At any rate, countries/organizations can be bad in different ways, so I don't think it invalidates what OP said, even if it's possible to whatabout other examples that the hivemind would agree with more.
- There's just this bizarre Israel apologist stance that isn't founded in reality whatsoever, and it's almost as sinister as the extreme hatred of Jews generally.
  I'm perfectly contented to take a non-interventionist stance on pretty much everything in the middle east. You can't protect any group in that region without aligning with fascists.
- Israel did just specifically blow up Irans prison where they keep trans people
- So did the Palestinians. My ex did a few journalistic pieces on that. Go look up Tanya Habjouqa and the photog work she did on middle east trans people. It's fascinating, beautiful, and sad.