goodbye plex
goodbye plex
after almost 15yrs my plex server is no more. jellyfin behind nginx with authentik is running very nicely.
goodbye plex
after almost 15yrs my plex server is no more. jellyfin behind nginx with authentik is running very nicely.
Wouldnât containers make more sense for some of these rather than full blown VMs?
Plex still good for the boys that bought the lifetime pass. I understand why people would change. But it's still the best plug and play option. Waiting until they break the "lifetime" thing and fuck us over.
Didn't that already happen? Or am I misremembering?
Mostly not yet. They did restrict the bandwidth on relay, but anyone with half a brain can open a port and that still allows apps to direct connect without relay. Honestly I wish could just force it to never relay since randomly my iPad will use relay even when Iâm on the same network but thatâs more because the new iOS app since the rewrite is dogshit.
Lifetime pass since 2012 here.
Right? Jellyfin is awesome
Welcome to the jelly. ONE OF US. ONE OF US.
Gooble gobble
ONE OF US. ONE OF US.
I've been using jellyfin for years.
My best recommendation is DELAY UPDATES and back up before you update.
I have a history of updates breaking everything so you should be careful about them.
All software recommends backing up before an update, but for jellyfin the shit is real, you really want to back up.
laughs in immich
Updating immich brings excitement into my life :)
I have Jellyfin running for years too and it has never broken for me, I use Linuxserver image, so maybe they delay the updates a bit?... Now, Immich has broken so many times that nowadays is the only docker I don't keep at latest (and I know using latest is a bad practice, I understand the reasons, but the convenience of not worrying about the versions beats all that for me)
I've been using jelly since just after the emby fork and never had an update issue on docker. Automatic snapshots every 5 mins (amoung other backup tools). means I don't need to worry much if it does.
Like the version or the media?
I have it on docker with two volumes, ./config and ./cache
I back up those before each update.
A bad Jellyfin update should not mess with your media folder in anyway. Though you should have backups of those aswell as a rule of thumb.
the config and databases or the media, you mean?
if so, the former, but I mount the meadia with a read only docker volume just to be sure, because chances are I would never notice it
Jellyfin still so buggy though. The UI is garbage too. I want to love it... I run both lol.
What is virsh?
command-line virtual machine manager
It is the command line interface for libvirt/qemu/kvm on Linux. I usually just use virt-manager remotely via SSH to create and manage my VMs, but virsh can be handy as well.
i love jellyfin i just wish there was a nicer way to highlight collections so you could make themed weekly or monthly collections of movies and shows that also still show up in the regular folders.... almost like netflix.
That is coming, I saw a PR for that. Just need to be patient.
I'm probably mistaken, but I think there might actually be a plugin for this? I haven't looked into it myself but I swear I scrolled past a plugin listing similar functionality at some point. Or I could be hallucinating. Or it could even exist but no longer work on the current version of the app. Who knows!?
I just wanna get rid of Plex so bad but jellyfin isn't going to work for my grandma....
The people asking why confuse me...y'all acting like jellyfin is easy to use on an off-site tv when it's literally not for non tech savvy people. I don't understand why jellyfin just doesn't nut up and make an samsung tv client or something?
My 67 year old Mother has been using Jellyfin for years via Chromecast. Change the TV input to Chromecast and pull up the Jellyfin app. And that's it. She never leaves Jellyfin and the Chromecast is never shut off, even if the TV is.
It's amazing to me that you fanboys pretend like Plex is easy to use but Jellyfin is somehow not. It's generally the exact same interface.
I donât understand why jellyfin just doesnât nut up and make an samsung tv client or something?
Because application development is expensive, and they're open source--not funded by corporate interest like Plex. What exactly about that is difficult to understand?
Host both. Keep plex up for your gma, Jellyfin for everyone else. Tbh Jellyfin is also pretty intuitive. Currently I'm hosting both, but my gma doesn't use it, so I'll probably move completely to Jellyfin.
You can run them concurrently and let grandma continue to use plex.
Why? It's been much easier for me
Grandma? Pls send money.
if my parents can navigate it your grandma can :)
If your grandma can handle torrenting over VPN, then she can probably handle Jellyfin.
Grandma probably doesnât do the actually torrenting herself, chances are OP has a overseerr or jellyseerr type of setup, grandma makes the request and things just flow.
I understand. I have converted fully to JF which required people to get onn players, and tunnel into my network and it was a lot of work on my end too.
Do what works for you and them.
I've heard people had luck with Tailscale playing nicely with non Plex options. I can't say I've tried it. Though I do use Tailscale. Essentially if you setup Tailscale for Grandma it'll be like she's sitting on your local network. Even better, set it up on her router and you can literally debug all her Internet problems if you can ping it.
Beyond that a raspberry pi with a battery backup on a 4G subscription connected to the router. That would be the ultimate "grandma" setup. Connect her router/modem power to remote power cycle. But I digress.
The irony of not wanting to use Plex and saying to use Tailscale to let you use jellyfin is just too good.
I am still using Kodi. It is feeling a bit long in the tooth in current year, but I canât complain. I tried Plex because chromecasting is a feature I would love. Sadly it didnât support the ISOs of my 1:1 rips. Maybe it does now (I stopped waiting for them years ago). As for Jellyfin, they seem to have an anti-ISO stance. One of the devs seemingly (or someone claiming to be a contributor) said I should convert all my media to a more modern format and make my own menus because it would be fun. Oh well, Kodi it is.
i've never heard of anyone that keeps dvd menus around. like, i get it for archival purposes but i would never want to actually navigate a menu when i want to watch something. in my mind it's like sitting through the commercials on a rented vhs. i would probably store a converted copy as well, in a format that would let me specify from the application what track and subtitle i want so i can set a default.
Blu-ray menus do kind of suck, but they are still mostly good enough to make all the supplemental material accessible (assuming the studio bothered to provide any anymore). But DVD menus (at least during that earlier golden age) add a layer to the experience I never knew I had been missing.
The Rocky Horror Picture Show has some dancing fishnet legs and sexyhorror lips dancing around. You get to see so many extras and choose two versions of the movie and AND a secret Easter egg third version. A smorgasbord. Same for Terminator 2: two good versions of the movie and that lame Star Trek-ish ending one was hidden and I love having the option to not watch it. Plus many more. Fight Club is the only one I can think of to make use of that camera angle swapping button. The DVD versions of Dragonâs Lair and Space Ace wouldnât work any other way.
Perfect way to kill time when others go for a last minute toilet visit or decide to make popcorn. I am not going to the trouble of transcoding my entire library to get less.
i love old dvd menus :(
I'm also 90% done migrating to jellyfin. I've had the instance running for 6 months now, the cultural change to watch jellyfin is complete, except for my wife's iPad.
Heck, I should just retire Plex. That will force the change.
These are the thoughts of a cold and calloused sysadmin. Didn't get the email about the change? Too bad.
yeah it took me about 6 months with jellyfin to feel like i was ready to finally kill plex. the thing that finally did it was getting an email from plex asking if i'd like to check out whats streaming on hbomax.
What are you using to watch jellyfin on iOS?
In order of personal preference:
Maybe just try them all out and find the one that fits you best. You could also use more than one (which is what I do).
Maybe, Streamyfin? its the only iOS App with Downloads and Offline-Mode
Can also use the web client
I've heard jellyfin has a lot of security issues, which I don't know if that's accurate or not. But the BIGGEST issue is lack of a proper tvOS app. I really don't feel like using Infuse or some other app just to use my library. Year after year I hear about people switching and yet, the gap is simply still there.
Iâve heard jellyfin has a lot of security issues
The biggest known stuff I saw on their GitHub is that a number of the exposed service URLs under the hood don't require auth. So, it's open-source with known requirements, you can tell easily from the outside that it's running, and you can cause it to activate a LOT of packages without logging in. That's a zero-day in any package that can be passed a payload away from disaster.
AS far as TVOS, I'm kinda surprised swiftfin doesn't service you.
Assuming this is all true, sure its not great but how much does it matter?
Most have jellyfin in a docker. My jellyfin can't only has read only accses to the media folder. Only the config folder has write access. Assuming the worst case scenario here, how much damage can than do?
swiftfin is mostly there but doesnât support media segments, which is a deal breaker for me
really unfortunate since jellyfin media segments is a much better implementation of the concept than plex
iâm watching the swiftfin issue for when it gets added and iâll be all over compiling and testing it
Yeah⌠thatâs a non-starter for me. Not gonna risk my entire home lab when Plex doesnât have any of that risk.
Also, running in Docker is fantastic but Iâve found Docker to be unstable at times depending on the version.
To be fair there is a tvOS app in development but progress is slow because the whole project is maintained by a small handful of volunteers. Theyâve put out a call for help and the maintainers post updates here
I am also not up to date on Jellyfin security issues but the biggest one I care about is that its clients donât support OIDC. Thereâs a neat plugin for OIDC, but without client support it only works with the web client and Iâm not a fan of leaving login pages open to the internet.
if you use the oidc connection and apps that support quick connect you can do it. you basically end up doing things like the plex link process that got implemented when they forced everyone into their authentication service. i almost went that route but opted to leave the password auth from ldap in. its the kind of log in process most people are used too and i've got a few elderly users. i disabled password reset in authentik though and everyone gets a 3 word 24 char minimum password.
Use an LDAP to OIDC bridge?
Op already said they were behind authentik
There also absolutely are apps for tv oses like Android, I use one daily.
I think they meant Apple's "tvOS" - which powers the Apple TV set top box.
There's no client for it, if I had to take a guess it's likely due to the costs of doing so.
Edit: Whoops, it appears I'm a bit out of date on this.
Yeah, Samsung TVs donât have a native Jellyfin app either. You can sideload it, but good luck walking your âyou touched my computer six months ago and now itâs broken. This is your faultâ grandmother through that over the phone.
I just validated that the latest version of the LDAP privilege escalation issue is not an issue anymore. The curl
script is in the ticket.
This was the one where a standard user could get plugin credentials, such as the LDAP bind user, and change the LDAP endpoint. I.E., bad.
I chose this one because after going through all of them, it was the only one that allowed access to something that wasn't just data in Jellyfin.
So for me, security is less of an issue knowing that, as only family use the service, and the remaining issues all require a logged in user (hit admin endpoint with user token).
Plus, I tried a few of those and they were also fixed, just not documented yet. I didn't add to those tickets because I was not as formal with my testing.
https://github.com/jellyfin/Swiftfin is available for tvOS. works great for me with one bug. since i have homepods connected to one of my apple tv's as it's speakers. i had to change the setting to use the native video player instead of vlc to avoid and audio delay bug. that cost me the auto play next episode function. i though not auto playing the next episode would annoy me, but it's turned out to not be a issue at all. but infuse doesn't include that bug if you want both homepod tv speakers and auto play next episode with jellyfin. as for security, since jellyfin is more modifiable it has a lot more room for misconfiguration for sure. plex had plenty of it's own security issues, we just only heard about them when some security blogger discovered it.
misconfiguration here i think is a dangerous way to phrase it⌠it implies that there is a secure way to run jellyfin on its own. jellyfin, by itself, should never be exposed to the www. it is, no matter the configuration, insecure. to run jellyfin on the www you must put a VPN or other reverse proxy with auth over the top of it
Unrelated but why a full VM for Linux stuff, lxc is much more efficient
honestly every explanation probably just ends at 'this is what i learned on and it works'. same way i religiously use nano and try to do everything in bash first. or how a couple coworkers can't stop explaining their vim workflow and defending python unprompted like it's a trauma response for them. my current homelab is also running a r9 with 64gb ram and 30tb storage. if i were paying for remote hosting, still using salvaged hardware or being paid, i'd invest time learning newer processes. but containers haven't caught my interested and this set up takes basically no effort on my part to maintain, so i can focus my limited free time elsewhere.
honestly every explanation probably just ends at 'this is what i learned on and it works'.
Yeah, lots of these answers basically boil down to âwhen all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.â
Same.
The time it takes me to write a single function in Python is the same as writing a whole Bash-script using nano.
Also I initially set up my homelab using Docker in a VM on Proxmox. Totally useless abstraction, but I never found the time and patience to migrate the VM to bare metal.
I can backup an entire VM snapshot very quickly and then restore it in a matter of minutes. Everything from the system files, database, Jellyfin version and configs, etc. All easily backed up and restored in an easy to manage bundle.
A container is not as easy to manage in the same way.
VMs can also be live migrated to another server in the cluster with no downtime and backups don't need to take the VM down to do their thing. If in the future you want to move to physical hardware, you can use something like Clonezilla to back it up (not needed often, but still, something to consider).
Both have their places, but those factors are the main ones that come into play of when I want to use a VM or LXC.
you can use commit, save/load, import/export for the same thing as VM snapshots
How often do you do this?
How not?
If a lxc container is in a btrfs subvolume or in a zfs dataset (those are created easily like a directory, it's not a partition), you can do a full 1:1 copy in less than one second via a snapshot, keeping all the system files, database, version and configs
Stronger compartmentalization
Does jellyfin do untranscoded video/audio?
Haven't used it in years but finally building up my media server again and I remember it had some funky settings for hardware encoding back then which I didn't need because I was connecting to it via a repurposed gaming laptop that could easily handle 4k content and surround sound by itself.
I use jellyfin for unencoded audio and video on my clients that support it like my newer television, but I also use transcoded audio video on things that can't handle the higher codecs like the raspberry pi.
Long time Jellyfin user here, welcome on board. I think biggest hurdle I should newbies warn about is the lack of availability on TizenOS.
Its possible but needs some extra steps.
not OP, but this has reared its ugly face once or twice with my friends.
i have been running into another issue, though it may be a firefox issue: playing some filetypes fail to play on web browser but work fine on jellyfin app (i believe my settings are correct for hardware decode on server where it can)
i still have to put some time into figuring it out tho (havent really done my research yet)
I've actually had the opposite issue where it runs fine on my web browser but does not play on my TV.
This is one of my issue with Jellyfin. It's a workaround to install the app onto Tizen. Updates are again manual. But zero issues since installation and runs smooth.
Could you point me to a good tutorial for hosting Minecraft server for my kids?
if you want easy java minecraft i might try something like https://github.com/itzg/docker-minecraft-server though i've not tested that one beyond 'it did install'.
for bedrock this walkthough does a good job of covering the steps. https://harrk.dev/dedicated-bedrock-minecraft-server-ubuntu-setup/
microsoft has a habit of changing the download url regularly so automating it gets annoying. my kid has moved onto java so i've just left the bedrock server shutdown.
if you really want to run a java server outside docker and you're comfortable with bash scripts, i can post mine here. but one of the docker builds is going to be the simplest way to get started with it.
I want to leave too, but I really like PlexAmp for my music streaming. And no, Finamp doesn't work nearly as well or look as nice.
PlexAmp is so good. Nothing else comes close.
What about subsonic or funkwhale? I think I also tried a third one I'm forgetting
Thanks for the suggestions. I'll try them out. One thing that I hate is critical for me is integration with Android auto. It's the last Google service I can't seem to quit. Might have to give up and just roll with Bluetooth instead.
Finamp is good for android and has a flatpak
i have a lifetime plex pass, but I'd consider moving to jellyfin when their closed-captioning support reaches parity with plex. i regularly spin up a jellyfin container to try it out, but i still run into issues. And jellyfin's android apps are mediocre (in particular android auto support), especially for music compared to plexamp
I find Jellyfinâs subtitle search much better than Plexâs. Bonus for leaving a subtitle file right along with your file, instead of buried somewhere else so you canât easily edit it.
Get Bazarr so you never have to worry about subtitle searching again.
For android auto, I use symfonium as it can hook into my jf library
This. I use symfonium for my audiobooks. Great app.
For some reason I get permission errors on jellyfin every time I use it. Never with Plex. I've gone through the steps to fix it before. But when you change your shit as much as I do. I just stay with Plex because it's plug and play. And I have the pass. I don't have the time to fuck with stupid shit with jellyfin.
that's about where i was at for a long while. manet finally replaced my apple carplay functionality from plexamp and plex lost it's last advantage for me. i definitely got my moneys worth from that lifetime plexpass though.
I just got Authentik / Traefik going for Navidrome, Jellyfin is next.
Does it play well for the mobile applications? If you use them?
the ldap auth works great for the apps. apps dont play well with an oidc login process. i ended up using both, oidc for web and ldap fall back for applications. made it easier for my non tech inclined users. most of the current apps also support quick connect, like the plex link process. you auth on a web browser and enter a code into the app. so it's possible to use only oidc for log in and, i believe it should be possible use css to even hide the user name and password fields.
my only issue is how user friendly it isn't compared to Plex.
i genuinely want to leave Plex (especially the more and more they enshittify) but I just could not figure out how to set up jellyfin. i use Linux every day, and know I'm at least a tiny bit more tech smart than your average PC user, but I can't imagine trying to explain to my family how to set jellyfin up.
Host Jellyfin either by running their easy setup script or by hosting it on docker, in order for it to be publicly accessible you will need to either port forward and give people your external IP or you need to have your own website. It's very easy with a docker container to get it running locally, you literally just spin it up, the same as Plex.
The only thing that plex has over jellyfin at the moment (in my opinion) is the simple sign on and user options that allow users to have their own usernames and not have to know anything about reverse-proxying a domain for jellyfin access. It's that little bit of back-end that you have to set up that's the problem for the 'normie' users that a lot of plex admins cater to. That, and there's some holes in where the jellyfin app is available.
Jellyfin us easy to run, but then when you are running it it just doesn't have your files. Are they in the incorrect folder structure? Who knows
I literally just run Kodi and it just works, I can browse my folders and watch stuff
Long ago I ran a Windows Media Center PC in the living room and used the hell out of it. When WMC finally went EOL, I look for alternatives and found Plex. I never got around to setting up a Plex box, and now I see it too is ready for the scrap heap. I think this is what getting old is. You plan on doing something and never get around to it. Time passes much faster up here in age.
How did you set up Jellyfin with Authentik? Are you using SSO or is it only through LDAP?
i ended up doing both. ldap for the apps. oidc for web based users and the apps that support the quick connect feature. the local user account system works fine too, and ldap would be enough. i just wanted an excuse to play round with sso systems, and it was fun figuring out how to connect all my servers.
authenik has a good docs site for both it's docker container and connecting it to jellyfin. Authelia looked interesting too.
Thanks! Don't know how I missed the Authentik docs for this.
Did plex do something again
Their last UI changes
Also, Plex email blasted a few weeks ago about how nobody can share their libraries anymore without paying for a subscription. That was the push I needed to check out Jellyfin again, and the experience ranges from "good enough" to "that's better than Plex" for me and my buddies.
And my god, it's amazing how each UI iteration gets worse. How is that even possible? My shits never been so buried in menus.
I have been running in parallel both jelly and plex and jelly is good.
Anyone have experience hosting a server for non-technical parents? Plex is just so plug and play and they have clients for even the shittiest old smart TVs.
Anything that has a remote interface is garbage. It's all cursor mouse based except on a few devices.
It's not as good as Plex by a long shot. If you have Plex pass no brainer. If not, I'd personally just buy the pass. On Xbox it was just unusable.
Honestly, the easiest thing to do is put it on a mesh VPN like Tailscale and connect their streaming device to your tailnet. If theyâre non technical parents then if their TV OS doesnât support Tailscale, you can pick up a Walmart brand ONN streaming box for <$50 which supports for Tailscale and Jellyfin.
Congrats. I'm super particular about covers and naming and the conversion of file names that Plex needed to jellyfin is intensive.
I finally got got JF up and running but still working on adding edition names to each item that is special. I really wish there was an editions field so it wasn't a manual title update. At least I can lock the field afterwards.
You could use Radarr and Sonarr to rename all your content if you want to. You can setup your own naming scheme and it will change it for you. As far as I know Radarr and Sonarr work with Jellyfin/Plex/Emby/Kodi etc
I kind of am, but radarr has an editions field which it uses for the file and that seems to be incomplete or inconsistent for my files. It wasn't a problem before but changing so many at once requires good data first.
Thanks for the tip. I've used Plex for so long with manual file name and folder changes so it covered up my issue and now I'm correcting it.
I still have to update the jellyfin title manually though. Jellyfins versions only work with multiple versions of the same file, not if you only have one version in the library that I want labeled as a special edition or something.
What is authentik and could I use it on podman with compose?
The best and most versatile system is having domains and a reverse proxy that has internal and external domains. Ie jelly.example.com and Vaultwarden.internal.example.com
Then you add authentik which does SSO for many app like nextcloud, immich, linkwarden etc. For apps that don't integrate, you can still use his with reverse proxy authentication (sonarr).
Naturally this is more complex to setup but nothing beats the versatility.
I can choose extra protection for things like vaultwarden (need to connect via wiregaurd). Make things external for other users to access easily (immich, jellyfin, etc). Everything is based on users that are made in authenticatik and they all have the same password with single sign on.
You would approach this is pieces. get the domain and reverse proxy working first. Then authentik. this is only realistic with docker compose.
authentik is an identity server. theres a couple free ones available, this one just worked for me. it provides oauth and ldap fallback for the jellyfin server. along with login for most of the other servers i host like nextcloud/calibre-web/lychee etc. it has a nice easy log in process along with a 'homepage' kinda thing for everything my users can access with their account. makes it easier to support the non technical friends and family.
Its a pre-authentication gateway and SSO provider for OAuth/SAML. So if you dont trust a random docker container to be secure it requires you to authenticate and then it automatically passes a token to the app for SSO if it supports OAuth/SAML.
Foss superiority gang
This is probably the wrong post to ask this question, so sorry in advance.
I have a dual boot Linux + Windows. Jellyfin runs wonderfully on muy Linux partition with docker-compose. Anybody knows how can I clone it in my Windows partition, such that configs, metada and accounts remain the same? I've failed to do this, and only the media volume remaines identical on both OS.
Looks like there is a config and cache location in their docker scripts. The easiest way to make a docker application portable is to bind mount the config and cache. That way you have access to the actual files and could copy them to your windows partition.
If you're already using a volume for that data, I think it becomes a bit trickier. I know technically you can move or copy volumes, but I've never tried. Although you could still bind mount a random directory and still copy the files out.
This may not be the answer you are looking for, but one method would be to use WSL on windows to run a Linux distro with Docker installed and just migrate everything over, basically 1-to-1. Then set WSL to auto start when you boot up windows. If you install Docker Desktop on Windows, it will also pick up that you're using Docket via WSL and allow you to manage shit from the client. I don't do that though, I'm a masochist old-school.
There are a few things about jellyfin that I don't like compared to Plex. First I can't skip the intro of a show drives me nuts. The second one is it has newly added but not newly released. Other then that it has been really good.
https://github.com/intro-skipper/intro-skipper solves your intro skipping issue.
https://github.com/intro-skipper/intro-skipper
*edit it's such a common complain this got posted twice at the same time :)
How do you keep all your virtual machines up-to-date? Or are those containers?
it's mostly debian 12 or ubuntu 22 lts vms, i'm slow dumping ubuntu. so it's all cron jobs running apt update and bash scripts for specific services like the minecraft server. i'm just old and have spent so much time modifying xml in nano that sticking with virsh has worked for me. i've only got two containers running in docker, frigate and authentik.
Unattended-upgrades or dnf-automatic
How is the Jellyfin software situation looking? Last time I checked it was pretty meh compared to plex. if I recall correctly the best app was Infuse and it was a monthly sub. Are there better options these days? I mostly watch plex on my TV through Android or Apple TV.
Jellyfin is a lot better than it used to be, to get feature parity with Plex you will probably need to install some plugins but I literally searched "best Jellyfin plugins reddit" and the list in the first thread I found was all I needed. The webOS, Android, and Roku apps are very good, I'm not sure what the situation is on Apple TV but I think they have an app
...and Roku apps are very good
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Iâm pretty sure you can pay for a lifetime access to infuse, cause I donât think I pay monthly.
Its monthly or lifetime and the lifetime is like 6-8 years of paying monthly.
I haven't done a bunch with it. I set it up locally on an old laptop, installed the app on my TV and on the other machines throughout the house. It works great when I use it. I stream a lot of content outside of it so I don't use it all the time but the interface I really liked. It's fluid even running the server on a laptop that would struggle to run a zoom call.
Believe I set it up with pop-os, but it could be mint. I haven't had to touch it in months so I honestly wouldn't know without going to it. I leave a RustDesk connection on it from my phone if I ever need to get to it.
swiftfin has reach what i'd call stable on apple tv. its a little janky still with homepods used as speakers. i had to switch the nativeplayer to avoid an audio delay bug. the native player doesn't support auto play next episode. so far thats the only issue ive had. infuse doesnt have that bug but the issue hasnt annoyed me enough to need infuse. all my other uses are on android tv or webos and have had no complaints. for music, manet has good carplay functionality so its made a nice replacement for plexamp.
Why all those VMs instead of containers?
it's just what i'm comfortable with. started playing with linux servers before docker existed. i've got frigate and authentik running in docker, but if i have the option to run something outside docker i still prefer that.
To each their own man. I just would not have enough memory on my potato servers to run all those VMs đ
I saw this and was pleased, actually. The relative opacity of containers makes them a validation challenge and hides versioning from standard tooling used for large host populations and/or enterprise.
Even if they sparkle.
Yea, JF is getting mature enough for more people to transition.
I've been running it side by side with Plex for about 2 years now, and have a couple of clients (and all of my personal use) on JF, but a few users either cant run JF directly on their hardware (and donât want to cast every time) or they are older and would struggle to learn a new app without some hands on practice with it.
The newest Plex UI update on some devices is causing some problems so I think Iâll have a few more users moving to JF in the near future.
It's a bit of a ram hog compared to plex but that's not a major issue.