Danielle Smith's reform is nudging Alberta separation vote from 'if' toward 'when'
One hundred and seventy-seven thousand people.
That's roughly 3.5 per cent of Alberta's population. It's also the amount of signatures that will be needed to force a separation referendum
It can’t be that hard to take advantage of this and get a hundred other random referendums. What else should they get everyone to vote on?
What else should they get everyone to vote on?
Proportional Representation in provincial elections?
I'm just going to leave this here...
The CBC television show, "This Hour has 22 Minutes" now has more than enough signatures for its petition campaign to have Canadian Alliance leader Stockwell Day change his name to Doris Day
The show is using the Alliance referendum formula, that would allow a national vote on any issue, if three per cent of the electorate, or about 350,000 people, signed a petition.
That was HILARIOUS. I think he tried to be funny once and sing a Doris Day song in response. 22 Minutes is absolutely brilliant.
I met Stockwell once. He just ordered a coffee from me at work, I had an urge to do what that other protestor did with the chocolate milk.
But seemingly out of nowhere, a separatist upstart party named the Alberta Republicans pulled in $122,970 by the end of March, and have announced veteran conservative organizer Cam Davies as leader.
We need to be keeping a close eye specifically on these traitors.
We also need to keep a close eye on where the money is coming from.
Separatists polled at 19% before the federal election, and there's so much that will stop them even if it somehow passed. These people existed before the PC / Wildrose merger. That was part of Wildrose and Take Back Alberta.
Natives, the Crown, being totally landlocked, the fact they'd lose a huge amount of the population.
Also, Alberta didn't join via negotiation like Quebec. This was Hudson's Bay private property called Rupert's Land. Surrendered to Canada. Alberta would need all premiers to say yes and 50% of the population nationally. Womp womp.
Thanks, Jason Kenney. You really united the reich. Embarrassing clowns. Come on, Nenshi pull it off and give us a break.
Could we even sell our homes without further financial ruin trying to leave? They'd have half or more of the province potentially fleeing. Millions of very angry people with nothing left to lose with a sudden abundance of free time to think about that on the way out.
Sturgeon Lake Cree Nation sent one too....had a delicious "Fuck yourself entirely off!" vibe.
And frankly? I'm fucking here for it!
I'm happy to see all these letters with no mincing of words.
I'm curious if Zelenskyy who is coming to Alberta shortly will have the time to notice the pararells between this foreign backed separatist movement and Ukraine's. Smith is openly a MAGA traitor.
I hope he says something. He doesn't have to, guy is busy.
Does everyone remember one of Russia's weak justifications for invasion? It's potentially quite relevant in Alberta now in regards to Trump annexation threats.
Alberta being created out of the NWT (Rupert's Land had already been annexed by Canada decades before) has no bearing on what constitutional amendment formula would apply in case of succession; the Constitution Act 1982 makes no distinction. The Clarity Act though does say that the provinces should be included in the negotiation of the constitutional amendment granting succession. But it doesn't give an opinion on whether their consent is necessary (ie which amendment formula to use). So yes succession could be under the unanimous consent formula or the 7/50 formula but it could just as well be under the "amendment to the Constitution of Canada in relation to any provision that applies to one or more, but not all, provinces" formula where only the House of Commons, Senate, and relevant province's legislature need to consent. (The Quebec Succession Reference Question affirmed that a province's membership in Confederation isn't just part of that province's constitution meaning provinces can't just amend their own constitutions to unilaterally succeed)
And yeah since treaty are affirmed as part of the constitution by Section 35, the constitutional amendment granting succession would also require renegotiation/amendment of treaties 6, 7, 8, and 10, which would in turn require the consent of the federal government and all the party First Nations. Maybe you could argue that if Alberta stayed a monarchy then the Canadian Crown could pass its responsibility to an independent Alberta Crown the same way the Imperial Crown gradually became an independent Canadian Crown, but I doubt the courts in this day and age would just ignore Indigenous protests to that. Especially considering that the Crown had been represented by the Government of Canada for the entire time the Numbered Treaties have existed and all but Treaty 7 would then have to deal with the Crown splitting in two.
Secession, you secede. You don't succeed.
Could we even sell our homes without further financial ruin trying to leave? They'd have half or more of the province potentially fleeing.
How to solve the housing crisis with one neat trick! Might cause a few other problems though.
Traitorous
A lot of people might think otherwise but leaders can actually lead and not just go with whatever the crowds are shouting the loudest.
People ultimately want a better life not having someone fulfill random fantasy's they were fed without understanding the repercussions of them.
That's gonna need Tegridy, ain't no Tegridy in Smith's whole body!
Sore losers.
Suprised nobody had claimed its all rigged, and election fraud yet... although lets be clear, if the politicians said it the people would have followed. Scary times dealing with a cult of fascism.
Overheard two ladies in Cambodian Tire talking about how the election was stolen and clearly a fraud because "The liberals got themselves over 26 million votes!"
Lady, there are only 28 million eligible electors in Canada. If we had 93% voter turnout just for the liberals... I mean, shit.
Bible belt region Onterrible btw.
Daylight savings time please. Call it the sleep an extra hour referendum so there's no ambiguity.
See also,
https://lemmy.ca/post/43230468
Cree nation sends Danielle Smith a cease and desist letter re: separation bullshit. It's not her land, the stupid bitch, she's just posturing.
What does the roadmap for arming the local Cree with nukes look like? Assuming it starts with a referendum.
How many signatures to get Danielle Smith recalled?
We need to stop desperately pretending that unity is salvageable. Conditions for Alberta secession must include free travel, even if they associate as US territory, and Calgary/Edmonton and any surrounding "subsecession" rights as city states or Canada. Most of Alberta is public land, with continuous regions that could support transportation. While ownership is Albertan, that it was a gift from Canada under presumption of provincehood/alliance is an issue of contention, that would certainly justify a corridor of Canada.
Any federal investment in Alberta's dead ender energy market/export access needs to explicitly generate federal revenues, with ownership that persists through any secession. But during any BS divisiveness process, focus federal investment elsewhere.
LOL! I grew up around these dimwits, this will go nowhere. Also, Western separation in the past was predicated on BC also leaving. A landlocked and water strapped 'country' lead by one of the most stupid and also corrupt people on Earth is laughable.